[WSG] Re: [Slightly OT]: hasbox tag attribute?
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Scott Elcomb wrote: > I've been trying to find more information about a tag attribute I > wasn't really aware of until today, called 'hasbox'. Apologies to the group for the noise. Turns out a re-branded 5 year old dhtml script (originally called BoxOver) was the culprit. -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Clerk of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] [Slightly OT]: hasbox tag attribute?
Hi all, I've been trying to find more information about a tag attribute I wasn't really aware of until today, called 'hasbox'. Originally I suspected Internet Explorer, but when I look in either of the Firebug or Google Chrome consoles, I'm seeing this attribute being injected on all kinds of tags. Here's what I think I know: * I don't believe apache is injecting this before sending to the client (I'll be /very/ surprised if that's the case) * I don't believe jQuery (used in the site's construction) is at fault; grep doesn't find "hasbox" in the source files. * Despite showing up across multiple browsers, I don't believe it's a standard attribute (documentation would be easier to locate) I've asked on stackoverflow, so far without response: <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6268640/html-attribute-hasbox> An appeal on twitter (linking to the above url) turned up nothing. Does anyone know what this attribute is/does and from whence it comes? TIA, -- Scott Elcomb @psema4 on Twitter / Identi.ca Atomic OS: Self Contained Microsystems http://code.google.com/p/atomos/ Clerk of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Christian Snodgrass wrote: >> Now, if you use the new code element instead, that tells the browser it is >> code. > > There's a new code element? How does it differ from the old one? Without using additional attributes, I don't see much difference in the specs: HTML4: <http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/text.html#h-9.2.1> "Designates a fragment of computer code." -- HTML5: <http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-code-element> "The code element represents a fragment of computer code. This could be an XML element name, a filename, a computer program, or any other string that a computer would recognize. Although there is no formal way to indicate the language of computer code being marked up, authors who wish to mark code elements with the language used, e.g. so that syntax highlighting scripts can use the right rules, may do so by adding a class prefixed with "language-" to the element." -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ @psema4 Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] ems versus pixels
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:52 PM, tee wrote: > I used to use EM only for font size, something I learned from this list. It > was time when you are new, you have no your opinion and know nothing about > exception that some fine ivory tower idea cannot withstand real world > practise but followed others , The first time I saw > "xxx" from a project I did for a social > networking site, I changed them, and used EM for font size, the programmer > changed my hard work back and I was very resentful my web-standards compliant > work got chopped off so brutally with no explanation ever given. > > It took me a few years to understand why the programmer did what he did. Out of curiosity, and as a programmer, why did the programmer change your work. You suggest that you figured it out without an explanation... -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ @psema4 Member of the Pirate Party of Canada http://www.pirateparty.ca/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] friends? - was( Failed A Job :()
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Andrew Maben wrote: > On Jan 29, 2009, at 1:40 PM, James Jeffery wrote: > > Some people are rich because they are tight. > > This has strayed a long way from standards...! But I just have to add to the > above. Having been the beneficiary of extraordinary acts of kindness from > truly poor (financially - but how rich in spirit) people while traveling, > I've come to the conclusion that many people are generous because they are > poor, and its corollary, many people are tight because they are rich. > Now back to work... I missed this, else I would've just agreed in principle. In the end though I'm not sure I agree with the comment "This has strayed a long way from standards." The reasoning for my position having been made earlier. It might not be direct (afterall - this is a "Web Standards Group" not an "Email Standards Group," however both the Web and Email are very closely tied. As person's whose job is to bridge the two, I feel more than confident to speak.) -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] friends? - was( Failed A Job :()
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 1:40 PM, James Jeffery wrote: > Aye' I did a task for a friend once. Charged him £100 for a few pages, a > nice design etc. He refused to pay. He is a near millionaire, well his > assets are worth that much. > > Business owners don't know how much work is involved sometimes. Even > something basic requires some tweaking for browser support, mobile devices > etc. > > To much infatuation with money in the business world. Some people are rich > because they are tight. > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:30 PM, designer > wrote: >> >> I did a site for one of my friends 'on the cheap', but put a lot of hours >> into it, and did it as 'properly' as I could. It was all hand coded and >> validated to the point of neurosis. Eventually, he decided that he wanted to >> pay me because he wanted to add a few more pages. When it was done, I told >> him to 'call it £160'. He went barmy - shouted about the lunacy of charging >> such a crazy amount, just for 'putting a few words in and moving a bit of >> stuff around. I've haven't heard from him for six months now, despite us >> growing up together on the same road many years ago. >> >> Friends? Keep well away! First off, yeah. Friends: make sure their friends. If not, keep them closer. Second, I've noticed a (very) common thing among postings to this list. I'll follow-up with the list admin(s) in the next couple of days regarding "standards" as far as list communication goes. Please Note: I'm not "targetting" anyone, but there are some conventions about list traffic. I don't mind the odd slip (or complete failure) from people who don't (or at least can't be expected to) know, but some habits are being repeated (and therefore learned by newbies) on this list. I'll make a suggestion and let the list moderators/administrators approach the issue as they see fit. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:11 AM, kevin mcmonagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul Collins wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends >> an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. >> I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable >> fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. >> Would really appreciate any help. > > If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using > word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a > good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. I agree with Kevin, however if you're friend requires more please feel free to contact me offlist. BOL, - Scott. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, kevin erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > reCAPTCHA sounds good. I tried it out and the audio for vision impaired > visitors worked fine. > The service seems to be free and is set up to digitize old books that cannot > be scanned, literally, one word at a time. Pretty amazing! >From the reCaptcha about page[1] "To archive human knowledge and to make information more accessible to the world, multiple projects are currently digitizing physical books that were written before the computer age. The book pages are being photographically scanned, and then transformed into text using "Optical Character Recognition" (OCR). The transformation into text is useful because scanning a book produces images, which are difficult to store on small devices, expensive to download, and cannot be searched. The problem is that OCR is not perfect." I think there's a strong relationship between reCaptcha and this group - via standards and accessibility. :-) [1] http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ http://www.psema4.com/blog/ http://www.google.com/reader/shared/14892828400785741937 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome... Coming very soon...
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:41 PM, tee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2008, at 2:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Google chrome is available for windows download ! >> >> http://www.google.com/chrome >> > It has no Mac version! :( Nor Linux! (But they're coming... eventually.) -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ http://www.psema4.com/blog/ http://www.google.com/reader/shared/14892828400785741937 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: WSG promoting standards via teaching? Re: [WSG] Positioning was Extra white line on the top of my list
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:57 PM, James Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just joined today and am considering leaving already. It's not usually like this; in fact I think this is the first time I've seen flames here. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ http://www.google.com/reader/shared/14892828400785741937 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] html vs. html
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rob Enslin wrote: > >> I recently started noticing that our CMS system generated .htm pages where >> previously the system produced .html pages. I questioned the support staff >> and was told that the W3C deemed .html as non-standard file extensions (or >> rather .htm were more-widely accepted as the standard) > > Rubbish. Absolute rubbish. Challenge the support staff to actually point out > where this statement from the W3C is supposed to be... I'd have to agree; I'm inclined to believe that ".htm" is a carryover from when Microsoft(TM) products (ie DOS) only supported file extensions up to 3 characters in length. If there is a W3C statement, I'd love to see it. -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Older Browsers
On 5/8/08, chris | chrisbuttery.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > I'm relatively new to this group & this is my first post. So here goes. Same here. (Hi all!) > The client sent me a screen shot of the site taken from their browser ( > IE5...which i don't have ) > that basically displayed a mangled site. I was able to fix the site through > a series of screen shots > supplied from the client, but it's obviously not a professional way of doing > things. I agree with the other posters... I wouldn't support IE 5.x if it could be helped. > My question to you guys is how do you develop & test your websites to ensure > they are interpreted correctly > by older more popular browsers ? Do you have older browsers handy to test > them with? I haven't actually tried this, but came across it as a sponsored link in my gmail. A quick look around the site and I find myself somewhat impressed. I'm intending to try this out over the next couple of weeks. http://www.crossbrowsertesting.com/ Essentially, it's a VNC-like setup to Virtual Machines running various OS's and Browsers. Some of the VM's described do have IE 5 installed. Some caveats: - IIRC, your site will need to be available online - I can't vouch for their security policies. - If you don't want to pay for time slots, you're limited to 5 minute sessions. Depending on server load, you can jump right back in after a session expires. Best of luck! -- Scott Elcomb http://www.psema4.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
