Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
I just tossed my site through that web optimization service (http://www.websiteoptimization.com/), and it returned a very peculiar review: it counted and weighed every single image being pointed to from my CSS file, even though the HTML page that I had it review only used a fraction of them. Which begs the question, when a stylesheet is loaded up by a browser, will that browser automatically attempt to load every referenced image, regardless of it being called by the HTML file? I would never have assumed so, but admittedly never gave it any thought either. . . -- Pura Vida John D Wells http://www.jdwjr.com On Oct 20, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Kay Smoljak wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:36:20 -0200, Genau Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. Try running a few sites through http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ - the analyzer gives specific recommended sizes for each component of a page (css, js, html, images), and reasons for each too. Another useful tool that reports on similar aspects is http://www.sitereportcard.com/ Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
John Wells wrote: Which begs the question, when a stylesheet is loaded up by a browser, will that browser automatically attempt to load every referenced image, regardless of it being called by the HTML file? This question's come up before - and the answer is... (of course) it varies from browser to browser! Test, test, test. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
Kay, I appreciated your advice about www.websiteoptimization , but i think that service its not enougth to analyses if the css and html have the rigth size or not. I think that an emphiric and softwarless analisys, can be more useful. Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner - Original Message - From: John Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file I just tossed my site through that web optimization service (http://www.websiteoptimization.com/), and it returned a very peculiar review: it counted and weighed every single image being pointed to from my CSS file, even though the HTML page that I had it review only used a fraction of them. Which begs the question, when a stylesheet is loaded up by a browser, will that browser automatically attempt to load every referenced image, regardless of it being called by the HTML file? I would never have assumed so, but admittedly never gave it any thought either. . . -- Pura Vida John D Wells http://www.jdwjr.com On Oct 20, 2004, at 9:50 PM, Kay Smoljak wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:36:20 -0200, Genau Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. Try running a few sites through http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ - the analyzer gives specific recommended sizes for each component of a page (css, js, html, images), and reasons for each too. Another useful tool that reports on similar aspects is http://www.sitereportcard.com/ Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. I know that this is a hard question, but some people may have a different poit of view about an accetable size for loading a .css file. 30kb , for example, is a accetable css file size? Genau Lopes Júnior
Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
Genau Junior wrote: I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website... snip / 30kb , for example, is a accetable css file size? While I don't have a technical answer to your question, I suspect it will vary from one browser to the next. From a practical standpoint, however, if your CSS file is more than a few K it's too big and probably should be broken up into more than one file. For example, a general one for a site and a second one for each section. CSS is suppose to reduce bloat--not add to it. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
Genau, I would say that the old rule of thumb still applies... that to be polite to all users of your site, including those on slower dial-up connections, your *total* data size for a page (css + html + images) should be no larger than 30KB. You need to take into account, too, the images called on by your CSS, which add to the data load. Having said this, though, one of the beauties of CSS is that it is cached by the browser (along with any displayed images), so if you think you can get away with requiring people to wait for an initial page, subsequent pages will be a lot faster. -Hugh Todd I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. I know that this is a hard question, but some people may have a different poit of view about an accetable size for loading a .css file. 30kb , for example, is a accetable css file size? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
I have yet to crack 10K for a css Average around 6-8K (and we use CSS for nearly everything) So unless I'm missing something, 30K seems really big. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS - How the max size of a .css file
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:36:20 -0200, Genau Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know, how is the max size of a .css file for a website with a plenty of functionalities and different style pages. Try running a few sites through http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ - the analyzer gives specific recommended sizes for each component of a page (css, js, html, images), and reasons for each too. Another useful tool that reports on similar aspects is http://www.sitereportcard.com/ Cheers, K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
