FW: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-21 Thread Ted Drake
Here's a reply from Nate K, the architect of grids, fonts, reset, . files in
YUI

 

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From: Nate Koechley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:27 PM
To: Ted Drake
Subject: Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question
regarding validation)

 

My explanation of the things that don't validate is here:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-javascript/message/40059

 

Thanks,

Nate

 

 

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, James Jeffery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


20

input, textarea, select

Parse Error {*font-size:100%;


20

input, textarea, select

Parse error - Unrecognized ;}


Test it: http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/reset.css
http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/%7E0802390/reset.css 


That's not in reset.css, it's from fonts.css. It's also not the High Pass
filter - see here for an explanation:

http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/highpass.html

If you're worried about it, extract the IE-only code out of the file and
wrap it in conditional comments.

- Matthew
 

 



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Re: FW: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-21 Thread James Jeffery
Ted,

Thanks for going the extra mile. Iit explains it really well for those that
don't know.

James

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Here's a reply from Nate K, the architect of grids, fonts, reset, … files
 in YUI


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 *From:* Nate Koechley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:27 PM
 *To:* Ted Drake
 *Subject:* Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet
 (question regarding validation)



 My explanation of the things that don't validate is here:

 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ydn-javascript/message/40059



 Thanks,

 Nate





 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, James Jeffery 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   20

 input, textarea, select

 Parse Error {*font-size:100%;

 20

 input, textarea, select

 Parse error - Unrecognized ;}


 Test it: 
 http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/reset.csshttp://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/%7E0802390/reset.css


 That's not in reset.css, it's from fonts.css. It's also not the High Pass 
 filter
 - see here for an explanation:

 http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/highpass.html

 If you're worried about it, extract the IE-only code out of the file and
 wrap it in conditional comments.

 - Matthew




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[WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread James Jeffery
Was just wondering. I always use Yahoo's reset.css file to reset elements,
but I have just noticed there is a CSS parse error in it (purposely put
there for browser selecting).
I used the reset.css file in a web development assignment at uni and am
worried that I will lose marks.

The marking guide says to get an A you must have no CSS errors, but do you
think in this case exceptions could be made? Also the High-Pass filter flags
a CSS 'File Not Found' error
because it uses null as a filename. I used this to target IE 5 and below so
they recieve no CSS document.

There are 2 errors within the document, should these be classed as errors to
degrade my final mark? I have documented them in my test plan to show they
are not missed errors but
I'm not sure what they will think of it.

Any help would be great.

James


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Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM, James Jeffery 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was just wondering. I always use Yahoo's reset.css file to reset elements,
 but I have just noticed there is a CSS parse error in it (purposely put
 there for browser selecting).


I can't see any parse errors in reset.css:

http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/

I use it myself as the basis for all stylesheets, and have never had a
validation problem.

- Matthew


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Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread James Jeffery
20 input, textarea, select  Parse Error {*font-size:100%;   20 input,
textarea, select  Parse error - Unrecognized ;}
Test it: http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/reset.css

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Matthew Pennell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:45 AM, James Jeffery 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Was just wondering. I always use Yahoo's reset.css file to reset elements,
 but I have just noticed there is a CSS parse error in it (purposely put
 there for browser selecting).


 I can't see any parse errors in reset.css:

 http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/

 I use it myself as the basis for all stylesheets, and have never had a
 validation problem.

 - Matthew


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Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, James Jeffery 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 20 input, textarea, select  Parse Error {*font-size:100%;   20 input,
 textarea, select  Parse error - Unrecognized ;}
 Test it: 
 http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/reset.csshttp://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/%7E0802390/reset.css


That's not in reset.css, it's from fonts.css. It's also not the High Pass
filter - see here for an explanation:

http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/highpass.html

If you're worried about it, extract the IE-only code out of the file and
wrap it in conditional comments.

- Matthew


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Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread James Jeffery
Dude, I didn't say that was the high pass filter. I said that was the error
in the reset.css. The high pass filter is a different issue unrelated to the
Yahoo
reset stylesheet.

Also, if you look at the source code for reset-min.css you will see it isn't
nothing to do with the fonts stylesheet and is infact in the reset-min.css
stylesheet.

Check it yourself. You will see I'm correct ;)

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Matthew Pennell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, James Jeffery 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 20 input, textarea, select  Parse Error {*font-size:100%;   20 input,
 textarea, select  Parse error - Unrecognized ;}
 Test it: 
 http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/reset.csshttp://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/%7E0802390/reset.css


 That's not in reset.css, it's from fonts.css. It's also not the High Pass
 filter - see here for an explanation:

 http://tantek.com/CSS/Examples/highpass.html

 If you're worried about it, extract the IE-only code out of the file and
 wrap it in conditional comments.


 - Matthew

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Re: [WSG] High-Pass Filter and Yahoo's reset stylesheet (question regarding validation)

2008-11-20 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:42 PM, James Jeffery 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dude, I didn't say that was the high pass filter. I said that was the error
 in the reset.css. The high pass filter is a different issue unrelated to the
 Yahoo
 reset stylesheet.


Ah, sorry - I must have read your original email wrong.


 Also, if you look at the source code for reset-min.css you will see it
 isn't nothing to do with the fonts stylesheet and is infact in the
 reset-min.css stylesheet.


That's weird (and a bit crap of Yahoo!) - it's in the reset-min stylesheet,
but not in the plain view version of the stylesheet shown on the main YUI
Reset page. Guess they haven't updated all the different places it appears
as they have added bits.

- Matthew


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