Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-14 Thread David Owens

A quick Google seems to suggest it can. http://icanhaz.com/litelerpicturz

David

On 14 May 2008, at 19:14, Chris Kennon wrote:


Hi,

Could this be done with PS?

Chris
On May 14, 2008, at 4:11 AM, David Owens wrote:


Hi,

I've been wrestling with one of these for a while. I've found that  
the ability to create jpgs with various degrees of compression in  
Fireworks is pretty handy.


It means that an area which will be covered up by other content can  
be compressed more than the parts of the image which will show  
around the edges.


A search for "selective jpg fireworks" will show you how it's done.

David

On 14 May 2008, at 06:39, David Hucklesby wrote:


On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

Hi Chris,

bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils  
of  wisdom for using a

"full-page" BG can the list cultivate?



Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee  
another issue unless the

background is a big animated GIF ;-)

You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do  
that on my hosting

company's site [1] [...]

This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the  
option. It places the new
styles in the head with a single property: background-image :  
none; applied to the
various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar under "Page  
Tools" -- the link says

Remove Backgrounds.

[1] http://gbhxonline.com


~

Nice solution, Mike.

Now wouldn't the Web be a kinder, gentler place, if all web sites  
were

designed so thoughtfully?

I notice the BBC has two links at the top of each page:
"Low graphics" and "Accessibility help."

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-14 Thread Chris Kennon

Love the BBC option and the one below. Thanks.
On May 13, 2008, at 10:39 PM, David Hucklesby wrote:


On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

Hi Chris,

bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of   
wisdom for using a

"full-page" BG can the list cultivate?



Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another  
issue unless the

background is a big animated GIF ;-)

You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do  
that on my hosting

company's site [1] [...]

This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the  
option. It places the new
styles in the head with a single property: background-image :  
none; applied to the
various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar under "Page  
Tools" -- the link says

Remove Backgrounds.

[1] http://gbhxonline.com


~

Nice solution, Mike.

Now wouldn't the Web be a kinder, gentler place, if all web sites were
designed so thoughtfully?

I notice the BBC has two links at the top of each page:
"Low graphics" and "Accessibility help."

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-14 Thread Chris Kennon

Hi,

Could this be done with PS?

Chris
On May 14, 2008, at 4:11 AM, David Owens wrote:


Hi,

I've been wrestling with one of these for a while. I've found that  
the ability to create jpgs with various degrees of compression in  
Fireworks is pretty handy.


It means that an area which will be covered up by other content can  
be compressed more than the parts of the image which will show  
around the edges.


A search for "selective jpg fireworks" will show you how it's done.

David

On 14 May 2008, at 06:39, David Hucklesby wrote:


On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

Hi Chris,

bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils  
of  wisdom for using a

"full-page" BG can the list cultivate?



Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee  
another issue unless the

background is a big animated GIF ;-)

You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do  
that on my hosting

company's site [1] [...]

This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the  
option. It places the new
styles in the head with a single property: background-image :  
none; applied to the
various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar under "Page  
Tools" -- the link says

Remove Backgrounds.

[1] http://gbhxonline.com


~

Nice solution, Mike.

Now wouldn't the Web be a kinder, gentler place, if all web sites  
were

designed so thoughtfully?

I notice the BBC has two links at the top of each page:
"Low graphics" and "Accessibility help."

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-14 Thread David Owens

Hi,

I've been wrestling with one of these for a while. I've found that the  
ability to create jpgs with various degrees of compression in  
Fireworks is pretty handy.


It means that an area which will be covered up by other content can be  
compressed more than the parts of the image which will show around the  
edges.


A search for "selective jpg fireworks" will show you how it's done.

David

On 14 May 2008, at 06:39, David Hucklesby wrote:


On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

Hi Chris,

bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of   
wisdom for using a

"full-page" BG can the list cultivate?



Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another  
issue unless the

background is a big animated GIF ;-)

You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do  
that on my hosting

company's site [1] [...]

This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the option.  
It places the new
styles in the head with a single property: background-image : none;  
applied to the
various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar under "Page  
Tools" -- the link says

Remove Backgrounds.

[1] http://gbhxonline.com


~

Nice solution, Mike.

Now wouldn't the Web be a kinder, gentler place, if all web sites were
designed so thoughtfully?

I notice the BBC has two links at the top of each page:
"Low graphics" and "Accessibility help."

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 13 May 2008 22:11:29 -0400, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
>> bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of  wisdom for 
>> using a
>> "full-page" BG can the list cultivate?
>>
>
> Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another issue 
> unless the
> background is a big animated GIF ;-)
>
> You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do that on my 
> hosting
> company's site [1] [...]
>
> This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the option. It places 
> the new
> styles in the head with a single property: background-image : none; applied 
> to the
> various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar under "Page Tools" -- the 
> link says
> Remove Backgrounds.
>
> [1] http://gbhxonline.com
>
~

Nice solution, Mike.

Now wouldn't the Web be a kinder, gentler place, if all web sites were
designed so thoughtfully?

I notice the BBC has two links at the top of each page:
"Low graphics" and "Accessibility help."

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

Hi Chris,

bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of  wisdom 
for using a "full-page" BG can the list cultivate?


Hard on those with a slow connection, but I cannot foresee another issue 
unless the background is a big animated GIF ;-)


You can offer a removal tool for those users easily enough. I do that on my 
hosting company's site [1] because with the masthead and background images 
and all, it could be hard on dial-up and slower DSL users. Granted they 
still have to load the page initially (it's usable without backgrounds but I 
want them on page load for aesthetics), but it's helpful to them when they 
explore the site and on return visits. This is one way to handle the 
conundrum of being backwards compatible, so to speak.


This particular changer uses PHP and a cookie to manage the option. It 
places the new styles in the head with a single property: background-image : 
none; applied to the various elements. The link to it is on the sidebar 
under "Page Tools" -- the link says Remove Backgrounds.


[1] http://gbhxonline.com

Respectfully,
Mike Cherim





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[WSG] Large Background Images

2008-05-13 Thread Chris Kennon

Hi,

The use of large backgrounds has become more common given expanding  
bandwidth. However standards are still a concern, what perils of  
wisdom for using a "full-page" BG can the list cultivate?


Chris


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