[WSG] Looking for feedback on a Fireworks plugin for generating accessible sprite navigation
Hi all, Half of this is a plug and half of this is a call for testing and suggestions for improvement. I've been developing a command panel for Fireworks that generates the HTML and CSS for a horizontal menu that uses the sprite-background technique for hover/active states. Obvious examples being http://veerle.duoh.com/ and http://www.apple.com. It's a simple enough technique but can involve a few fiddly calculations and is not exactly fun, the plugin essentially makes the whole process much faster. I've only been able to test this on a couple of my own examples so there's probably a few bugs that i'm keen to track down. I'm mostly looking for input on the quality of the outputted HTML and CSS, I think I've done it fairly well but another set (or sets) of eyes might spot something I've missed. The obvious accessibility issue is that I'm hiding the text but everything else seems alright to me. Basically you load your navigation matrix image in Fireworks, add guides to separate the different menu items and states then run the plugin - more information at http://www.andrewingram.net/articles/generating_sprite_navigation_from_fireworks/ if you want to try it out. I was hoping to make this for Photoshop too but there are some annoying limitations. Thanks - Andrew Ingram *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Looking for feedback on new AP
Hi John, Here are some comments on your site and the AP: - Is the splash screen really needed? Seems it just introduces one extra step to getting inside the site, which in today's world, could be one too many. Personally, I would rethink having 'requirements' on the splash screen as well. One benefit of using web standards is to do away with requirements. - It took me a while to figure out what the site was about, and what an AP was, and what you were offering. I still wasn't sure what incentive would lead me or anyone to submit a site. - Contrary to the logos on the front page, I couldn't get any pages to validate as HTNML4.01, nor could I get the WCAG (Bobby) validator to pass it. - I liked the color scheme Hope that helps! Will Chatham -Original Message- From: John McDougald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 8:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Looking for feedback on new AP Hello all, I would like to invite you to review my new AP on my site. http://www.jazzalleyxg.com and return feedback on any issues I over looked. Just go inside and pick on the Award Program in the menu on the left. TIA John McDougald Jazz Alley XG Midis Quote: Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Author: Charlie Parker 1920-1955, American Jazz Musician * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Looking for feedback on new AP
Hello all, I would like to invite you to review my new AP on my site. http://www.jazzalleyxg.com and return feedback on any issues I over looked. Just go inside and pick on the Award Program in the menu on the left. TIA John McDougald Jazz Alley XG Midis Quote: Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. Author: Charlie Parker 1920-1955, American Jazz Musician
RE: [WSG] Looking for feedback
Dear Andy, Side note question. What is a browsercam account? With only 3% of my users using Opera, Mozilla and Safari, tend to look at Netscape and IE, but I worry about the other browsers. Thanks, Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Budd Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback Design looks nice. Not to be rude, but is it a template or did you design it yourself? Had a look in Safari. The header stuff is fine, but the main content is a little all over the place. Would probably be a good idea to get hold of a browsercam account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys working on putting a design together at the moment, looking for some feedback on the coding and some ways to improve it. it's just about finished. link: http://www.wirenine.com/beta/ thanks, chris Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback
Nancy, try here: http://www.browsercam.com/ Dear Andy, Side note question. What is a browsercam account? With only 3% of my users using Opera, Mozilla and Safari, tend to look at Netscape and IE, but I worry about the other browsers. Thanks, Nancy * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Looking for feedback
Thank you so much, Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:03 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback Nancy, try here: http://www.browsercam.com/ Dear Andy, Side note question. What is a browsercam account? With only 3% of my users using Opera, Mozilla and Safari, tend to look at Netscape and IE, but I worry about the other browsers. Thanks, Nancy * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback
Nancy Netscape7 is Mozilla, they are one and the same thing as they use the same rendering engine (as do Firefox and Camino, the beta standalone browsers) - you can safely incorporate the two into one group. Cheers James Nancy Johnson wrote: Dear Andy, Side note question. What is a browsercam account? With only 3% of my users using Opera, Mozilla and Safari, tend to look at Netscape and IE, but I worry about the other browsers. Thanks, Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Budd Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback Design looks nice. Not to be rude, but is it a template or did you design it yourself? Had a look in Safari. The header stuff is fine, but the main content is a little all over the place. Would probably be a good idea to get hold of a browsercam account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys working on putting a design together at the moment, looking for some feedback on the coding and some ways to improve it. it's just about finished. link: http://www.wirenine.com/beta/ thanks, chris Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Looking for feedback
hey guys working on putting a design together at the moment, looking for some feedback on the coding and some ways to improve it. it's just about finished. link: http://www.wirenine.com/beta/ thanks, chris
Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback
It's an original design created by a friend of mine. I only have access to Moz/IE/Opera but I'll look into Safari issues. Thanks Andy. - Original Message - From: Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Looking for feedback Design looks nice. Not to be rude, but is it a template or did you design it yourself? Had a look in Safari. The header stuff is fine, but the main content is a little all over the place. Would probably be a good idea to get hold of a browsercam account. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys working on putting a design together at the moment, looking for some feedback on the coding and some ways to improve it. it's just about finished. link: http://www.wirenine.com/beta/ thanks, chris Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *