Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-05 Thread John Horner
the page:  http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.
Can I raise a quick issue -- I noticed when I went to that page and 
right-clicked on it... a JavaScript alert came up to say that the 
page was copyright, and, as far as I could tell, stopped me from 
doing view source via the context menu -- what's the reason for 
that?

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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-05 Thread Neerav
John
People use that method to try and stop people copying source code. 
Unfortunately there really is no reliable way of doing so because:

1. the page is usually cached by the browser and you can get the source 
code from there

2. browsers can be set to disable javascript to get around these kinds 
of right-click disabling scripts

Basically, since HTML is interpreted by user agents (browsers etc) and 
not compiled, its next to impossible to stop people copying content/code

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John Horner wrote:
the page:  http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

Can I raise a quick issue -- I noticed when I went to that page and 
right-clicked on it... a JavaScript alert came up to say that the page 
was copyright, and, as far as I could tell, stopped me from doing view 
source via the context menu -- what's the reason for that?

   Have You Validated Your Code?
John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488
Senior Developer, ABC Online  http://www.abc.net.au/
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[WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?
The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.
link rel=StyleSheet type=text/css href=css/btwnewx.css /
Try making that stylesheet (all lower case) and see if it makes 
a difference.

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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Michael Dale
This is because your webserver is outputting: 
Content-Type: text/plain 
and not: 
Content-Type: text/css
For your CSS file.

IE doesn't care, but most other stuff does. Nothing wrong with your CSS. It is 
a web server configuration problem.

- Original Message -
From: Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tue,  5 Apr 2005 14:35:12 +1000
Subject: [WSG] Really strange results


 In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
 Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
 Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.
 
 Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
 
 I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
 the stylesheet, while others don't?
 
 The link to the page:  
 http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.
 
 CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
 
 This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
 can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Leslie Riggs
 
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RE: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Ben Wrighton
Hi Lesley,

Have you tried an absolute path for the style sheet href property?

Regards,

 Ben

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Subject: [WSG] Really strange results


In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.

I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.

This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.

Leslie Riggs

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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread scott parsons
The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly.
Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css
thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet..
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Leslie Riggs wrote:
In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers 
see the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks, Michael,
Where do I find that information, so I can back up the assertion when I 
talk with the hosting provider?

Thank you!
Leslie Riggs
This is because your webserver is outputting: 
Content-Type: text/plain 
and not: 
Content-Type: text/css
For your CSS file.

IE doesn't care, but most other stuff does. Nothing wrong with your CSS. It is 
a web server configuration problem.
- Original Message -
From: Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tue,  5 Apr 2005 14:35:12 +1000
Subject: [WSG] Really strange results
 

In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers see 
the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
   

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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Donna Jones
scott parsons wrote:
The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly.
Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css
thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet..
i just did a quick test, copying leslie's code and css and loaded it on 
my server - and it was read by mozilla and firefox.  I wasn't even 
going to say anything because I was so mystified by it - but your answer 
explains it, Scott.   Some days I find these mysteries rather fun; 
other days  I dunno.

best
Donna
Leslie Riggs wrote:
In some browsers, the test page I have put up renders fine: namely, IE 
Mac, Safari on Mac, IE6 on PC.  However, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla and 
Netscape don't seem to see the stylesheet.

Both HTML and CSS validated fine through the W3C site.
I am really having a difficult time understanding why some browsers 
see the stylesheet, while others don't?

The link to the page:  
http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

CSS is at http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/css/btwnewx.css.
This is the first time I've encountered this situation, so anyone who 
can point me in the right direction, I would be very much obliged.

Thanks.
Leslie Riggs
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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-04 Thread Leslie Riggs
Thanks to all - the hosting provider confirmed that the web server was 
incorrectly configured; it's an older one.  The site will go live on a 
newer, properly configured server.

I can now sleep happythanks again, everyone.
Leslie Riggs
scott parsons wrote:
The easy answer is that your server is configured incorrectly.
Your stylesheet is being served as text/plain, and not text/css
thus some browsers are not treating it as a style sheet..

i just did a quick test, copying leslie's code and css and loaded it 
on my server - and it was read by mozilla and firefox.  I wasn't 
even going to say anything because I was so mystified by it - but your 
answer explains it, Scott.   Some days I find these mysteries rather 
fun; other days  I dunno.

best
Donna
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