Re: [WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread Jeff D. Reid



Yes this is what I was searching for in a 
nutshell.  I have been researching pros and cons of using an image created 
for print as a web page.  I am really striving towards revamping all our 
brand sites to meet web standards and accessibility issues.
 
Biggest hurdle is working with the files I am sent 
to build from and to try and make something similar in style 
sheets.
 
Thanks to all who replied...
 
Jeff

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  sam 
  sherlock 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 4:36 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Sliced Image 
  Dilema
  I think your question should be rephrazed a littletable 
  based sliced image html (as seen in david seaguls book Killer 
  Websites)VsWebstandard 'Tableless' CSS designtable 
  based sliced image layoutpros    easy to produce 
  consistant layout    may even use images instead of text 
  (at the expense of accessibilty)cons (too many to 
  list)    inaccessiable    large file 
  sizes (hence longer to download, greater cost of ownership 
  etc)    ...Webstandard 'Tableless' CSS 
  design   pros (too many to list)    seach 
  engines crawl the site and index information more 
  appropriately    greater file economy (elements can be 
  reused, many elements can be removed)    seperation of 
  style and content (makes managing the site really simple.  Really, really 
  simple)    present the same page of mark up to various 
  devices (eg Desktops, handhelds, phones, PDA)    
  ...cons    older defunked browsers on anceint 
  machines display unformatted information (even this has its 
  advantages)    requires a little more attension in 
  production stages (this depend on who elaborate the design is)atb > 
  SamJeff D. Reid wrote: 
  Can anyone here please post urls to some reading regarding the use of sliced 
images in building a website vs using CSS instead.  Kind of a "pros and cons" 
type of paper.
 
Thanks
 
Jeff D. Reid
 
MIS Department
Davitt-Hanser Music Company
Cincinnati, OH
 
http://www.bcrich.com
http://www.kustom.com
http://www.olpguitars.com
 
Owner
ROMDev
Cincinnati, OH
 
http://www.romdev.com
http://www.patandjeff.com
 
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Re: [WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread sam sherlock




I think your question should be rephrazed a little

table based sliced image html (as seen in david seaguls book Killer
Websites)

Vs

Webstandard 'Tableless' CSS design

table based sliced image layout

pros
    easy to produce consistant layout
    may even use images instead of text (at the expense of accessibilty)

cons (too many to list)
    inaccessiable
    large file sizes (hence longer to download, greater cost of
ownership etc)
    ...

Webstandard 'Tableless' CSS design
   
pros (too many to list)
    seach engines crawl the site and index information more
appropriately
    greater file economy (elements can be reused, many elements can be
removed)
    seperation of style and content (makes managing the site really
simple.  Really, really simple)
    present the same page of mark up to various devices (eg Desktops,
handhelds, phones, PDA)
    ...

cons
    older defunked browsers on anceint machines display unformatted
information (even this has its advantages)
    requires a little more attension in production stages (this depend
on who elaborate the design is)

atb > Sam



Jeff D. Reid wrote:

  Can anyone here please post urls to some reading regarding the use of sliced 
images in building a website vs using CSS instead.  Kind of a "pros and cons" 
type of paper.
 
Thanks
 
Jeff D. Reid
 
MIS Department
Davitt-Hanser Music Company
Cincinnati, OH
 
http://www.bcrich.com
http://www.kustom.com
http://www.olpguitars.com
 
Owner
ROMDev
Cincinnati, OH
 
http://www.romdev.com
http://www.patandjeff.com
 
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human 
history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." -Mitch Ratliffe-
  







Re: [WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Jeff D. Reid wrote:
> Can anyone here please post urls to some reading regarding the use of
> sliced images in building a website vs using CSS instead.  Kind of a
> "pros and cons" type of paper.

I'm not sure I understand your question. Is it about tables used to "hold"
sliced images, like some Graphics program create?

Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread Carl Reynolds

Jeff D. Reid wrote:

Can anyone here please post urls to some reading regarding the use of 
sliced images in building a website vs using CSS instead.  Kind of a 
"pros and cons" type of paper.
 


I find your question a little confusing. The use of sliced images and 
CSS are not mutually exclusive. As a matter of fact, ImageReady has an 
option to create a layout for a sliced image using CSS. The use of 
sliced images is not common these days, because people have found other 
ways of creating layouts, but you can use sliced images with layouts 
very effectively using CSS for the image placement.


What are you trying to do that would require you to use one or the other?



Carl.



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Re: [WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Jeff D. Reid wrote:
Can anyone here please post urls to some reading regarding the use of 
sliced images in building a website vs using CSS instead.  Kind of a 
"pros and cons" type of paper.


The pros are probably well covered in this 
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ (although the markup there 
may need some additional work to make it nicely accessible, like proper 
text in those links).
Only cons I can think of right now are the usual "images off, CSS on" or 
the lack of any visuals when CSS is off.


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[WSG] Sliced Image Dilema

2005-08-10 Thread Jeff D. Reid



Can anyone here please post urls to some reading 
regarding the use of sliced images in building a website vs using CSS 
instead.  Kind of a "pros and cons" type of paper.
 
Thanks
 
Jeff D. Reid MIS 
DepartmentDavitt-Hanser Music CompanyCincinnati, OH http://www.bcrich.comhttp://www.kustom.comhttp://www.olpguitars.com OwnerROMDevCincinnati, 
OH http://www.romdev.comhttp://www.patandjeff.com "A 
computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history 
- with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila." -Mitch Ratliffe-