Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-16 Thread Charlie Bartlett
Heres another link that might help, http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites/
 
Charlie
http://www.bartlettdesign.co.uk 
On 1/15/06, Rob Mientjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 15/01/06, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> The simplebits is very interesting. But it seems angled images in a list
> that change aren't do-able using CSS without tables and some kind of image> replacement technique. A pic is worth a thousand words so I have made a link> to the mockup with a menu item hi-lited.:
> http://www.bkdesign.ca/mockup5.pdf>> Personally I don't think this can be done, but I'm an amature,With image replacement and some smart positioning, I do think it _can_
be done. Stu has some nice examples of the outrageousness we canproduce with CSS at http://cssplay.co.uk/  Do give it a shot, and ifit won't work out, ask on this list again for support. I'm sure many
will be able to help you out.-Rob.


Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-15 Thread Rob Mientjes
On 15/01/06, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The simplebits is very interesting. But it seems angled images in a list
> that change aren't do-able using CSS without tables and some kind of image
> replacement technique. A pic is worth a thousand words so I have made a link
> to the mockup with a menu item hi-lited.:
> http://www.bkdesign.ca/mockup5.pdf
>
> Personally I don't think this can be done, but I'm an amature,

With image replacement and some smart positioning, I do think it _can_
be done. Stu has some nice examples of the outrageousness we can
produce with CSS at http://cssplay.co.uk/  Do give it a shot, and if
it won't work out, ask on this list again for support. I'm sure many
will be able to help you out.

-Rob.


Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-15 Thread Bruce
The simplebits is very interesting. But it seems angled images in a list
that change aren't do-able using CSS without tables and some kind of image
replacement technique. A pic is worth a thousand words so I have made a link
to the mockup with a menu item hi-lited.:
http://www.bkdesign.ca/mockup5.pdf

Personally I don't think this can be done, but I'm an amature,

Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign
Rob Mientjes wrote:
> On 14/01/06, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  I don't mean to make this into a lesson on adobe photoshop on this
list,
> > perhaps I shouldn't have written in. Mostly was wondering about the use
of
> > pdf images in design and angled images in lists. These are supposed to
be
> > angled images in a list menu that fit tight together...and change on
> > mouseover. Don't know if thats possible.
>
> It is, but it will require some smart positioning. I don't have the
> time right now to give you an example, but it's certainly doable. It's
> even doable without images, I think (borders and such).
> http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/07/12/bulletproof_slants.html
> is also a method.
>
> HTH
>
> -Rob.
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Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-15 Thread Rob Mientjes
On 14/01/06, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I don't mean to make this into a lesson on adobe photoshop on this list,
> perhaps I shouldn't have written in. Mostly was wondering about the use of
> pdf images in design and angled images in lists. These are supposed to be
> angled images in a list menu that fit tight together...and change on
> mouseover. Don't know if thats possible.

It is, but it will require some smart positioning. I don't have the
time right now to give you an example, but it's certainly doable. It's
even doable without images, I think (borders and such).
http://www.simplebits.com/notebook/2004/07/12/bulletproof_slants.html
is also a method.

HTH

-Rob.


Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-14 Thread Bruce

wendy wrote:

> Bruce,
> Can you not place pdfs into Photoshop document and then crop and carry
> on from there with properly-sized image, or am I not understanding
> something?
> Wendy
I have separated one to actual size, the images are angled, but the edges
are square out of photoshop.
 I don't mean to make this into a lesson on adobe photoshop on this list,
perhaps I shouldn't have written in. Mostly was wondering about the use of
pdf images in design and angled images in lists. These are supposed to be
angled images in a list menu that fit tight together...and change on
mouseover. Don't know if thats possible.

Thanks
Bruce
bkdesign

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Re: [WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-14 Thread wendy

Bruce,

Can you not place pdfs into Photoshop document and then crop and carry 
on from there with properly-sized image, or am I not understanding 
something?


Wendy

Bruce wrote:


...] twenty pdf files of small images of various shapes, images vary but are
around 61x72px and each one on a transparent background, which is 400px by
500px.
[] All large backgrounds and no way to cut them out.

 


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[WSG] Technical Aberrations?

2006-01-14 Thread Bruce
A bit ago I had a question on pdf image files which was answered by quite a
few, and appreciated.
I'm a bit of a beginner at standards and been making sites for a quite a few
years and online ten. In that time I have made quite a few sites, starting
with tables, and recently moved to CSS and standards, but always learning,
especially with the assistance of the WSG.

The client I referred to was nice enough to separate the pdf site plan into
individual parts, about twenty of them and send them on. Very nice. I how
have twenty pdf files of small images of various shapes, images vary but are
around 61x72px and each one on a transparent background, which is 400px by
500px.
These are supposed to be inline menu items, all angled, all pdf. All large
backgrounds and no way to cut them out.
I now realize I can convert these in photoshop. Great. So now have small
angled jpg images on a huge transparent background. Just as useless. I'm
totally clueless and client wants it in a few days, and is willing to pay
good.

I seriously think I have some decisions to make:
I am such a rank amature that I should give it up to those more technically
inclined.
I live on a different planet and haven't seen this stuff before because of
that.
I have for the first time ran into someone who operates in a different
technical environment which I accidently had the good fortune to avoid until
now.
I'm right in thinking that this kind of complex stuff is archaic, and these
methods are by geeks and for geeks and have no place in designing websites
and only impresses those immersed in it.
I'm totally wrong in the above and a rank amature.
Give this site up and pretend it never happened.
Give the site up and put it down to an abberation that probably won't happen
again.

lol
Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign Solutions-without solutions


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