Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-25 Thread Paul Novitski

At 6/20/2007 07:52 AM, Richard Ishida wrote:
I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in 
translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O


Original: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#endlinks 
(see the box to the right)
First problematic translation: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php#endlinks


I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but trigger 
a POST, so I put the text in a submit button and styled it. 
Unfortunately the longer translations won't wrap that way.



Richard,

Another method is to create a transparent button image and place it 
on top of the text (i.e. in a layer between the text and the viewer), 
something like this:


form action=script.php method=post
div
pEnvoyez-nous un commentaire/p
input type=image src=transparent-button.png 
name=sendcomment /

/div
/form

/* make all three elements the same size  resizable */
div,
div p,
div input
{
font-size: 1em;
width: 10em;
height: 3em;
}
/* the div constrains the text  button */
div
{
position: relative;
}
/* superimpose the text  button within the div */
div p,
div input
{
position: absolute;
top: 0;
left: 0;
margin: 0;
}

http://juniperwebcraft.com/test/transparent-button.html

Warm regards,

Paul
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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Chris Taylor
Cheers, I thought that when I went back to it as well. I'll get that done
very soon.

Chris


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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

 On Behalf Of Chris Taylor
 Have you tried the button element? As far as I know that can be
 styled
 pretty much how you want. I used it on this page:
 http://www.searchandgo.com/weather/United-States/New-York-City/ - the
 New
 York City exchange rates text on the left is a button.

Clever...
I'd add a cursor:pointer declaration to give pointing device users a clue
that this text is clickable.

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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Richard Ishida
Ah, that makes a lot more sense, Mike.  Thanks. 

It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the
problem to Opera users than IE users.  This also seems a much more sensible
approach. I guess I should contact Opera and see if we can't get this
'fixed'.

So now my code looks like this:

.container label.interaction {
  font-size: 130%;
  color: #e70;
  background-color: #ff; 
  border: 0; 
  margin: 0; 
  padding: 0;
  cursor: pointer;
  }


form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
plabel class=interactioninput src=/International/icons/mailus.gif
alt= type=image Envoyez-nous un commentaire/label/p
input type=hidden name=docname value=$self /
input type=hidden name=referer value=$referer /
input type=hidden name=lang value=$clang / 
/form

I'm wondering whether to add a title attribute telling Opera users to click
the icon, or whether they'll figure it out.

Thanks all for the help.

RI


Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike at 
 Green-Beast.com
 Sent: 21 June 2007 05:18
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
 Thierry Koblentz wrote:
  I came up with this:
  http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
  But it requires to move the text out of the button :(
 
 I'm sort of just catching the end of this, but are you guys 
 talking about something like what I did on my daughter's blog [1]?
 
 [1] http://sarahcherim.com/ (look at the Contribution Cow 
 on the sidebar)
 
 I didn't use button (not sure if that's was the point or just 
 making clickable image/text form posting).
 
 Cheers.
 Mike Cherim
 
 PS. Just a little disclaimer, looking at the image/text form 
 on that site I realized I should have used a legend instead 
 of the heading. It's not clickable in Opera either, by the 
 way -- just the image.
  
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Richard Ishida wrote:
 It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera,
 but I'd rather give the problem to Opera users than
 IE users.  This also seems a much more sensible
 approach. I guess I should contact Opera and see if
 we can't get this 'fixed'.

I'm bummed it doesn't work as well in Opera. I just realized that last night 
before I sent it (hence the after thought disclaimer). It's a usability 
issue because Opera users will think they can click something when they 
can't. Can't rely on a title attribute of course thus I think the best 
option is to make the visible text more clear -- temporary solution, anyway.

What I just did on my daughter's blog (http://sarahcherim.com/) is change 
the label text

From:

Use PayPal to give Sarah some college money as a way of saying thanks 
and good luck!

To:

Click the dancing cow to give Sarah some college money with PayPal as a 
way of saying thanks and good luck! 

And that way at least the what to do clue is visible to Opera users, and 
everyone else can get away with missing the cow and clicking the text so 
it's more like an enhancement. I had to do something. Still didn't add the 
legend, but I'll do that when I have more time to fool with it so it doesn't 
change the look.

Just a thought.

Cheers.
Mike Cherim


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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts


Richard Ishida schreef:

It's annoying that it doesn't work so well in Opera, but I'd rather give the
problem to Opera users than IE users.

Ouch! That hurts man...


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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-21 Thread Sander Aarts

Why do need a POST anyway if I may ask?

cheers,
Sander


Richard Ishida schreef:
I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O 


Original: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#endlinks (see 
the box to the right)
First problematic translation: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php#endlinks

I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but trigger a POST, so 
I put the text in a submit button and styled it. Unfortunately the longer translations 
won't wrap that way.

form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
pinput class=interaction value=Send us a comment type=submit/p
input name=docname value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php 
type=hidden
input name=referer 
value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php; type=hidden
input name=lang value=en type=hidden 
/form


Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to avoid using 
JavaScript, if possible.

Cheers,
RI



Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/

http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 




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[WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Richard Ishida
I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation, 
but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O 

Original: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#endlinks (see 
the box to the right)
First problematic translation: 
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php#endlinks

I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but trigger a POST, so 
I put the text in a submit button and styled it. Unfortunately the longer 
translations won't wrap that way.

form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
pinput class=interaction value=Send us a comment type=submit/p
input name=docname value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php 
type=hidden
input name=referer 
value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php; 
type=hidden
input name=lang value=en type=hidden 
/form

Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to avoid using 
JavaScript, if possible.

Cheers,
RI



Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 



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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Chris Taylor
Have you tried the button element? As far as I know that can be styled
pretty much how you want. I used it on this page:
http://www.searchandgo.com/weather/United-States/New-York-City/ - the New
York City exchange rates text on the left is a button.

I may have missed the point of your question, of course. It happens
regularly with me.

Chris



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Richard Ishida
Sent: 20 June 2007 15:52
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation,
but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O 

Original:
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#endlinks
(see the box to the right)
First problematic translation:
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php#endlinks

I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but trigger a POST,
so I put the text in a submit button and styled it. Unfortunately the longer
translations won't wrap that way.

form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
pinput class=interaction value=Send us a comment type=submit/p
input name=docname value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php
type=hidden
input name=referer
value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php;
type=hidden
input name=lang value=en type=hidden 
/form

Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to avoid using
JavaScript, if possible.

Cheers,
RI



Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 



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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Richard Ishida
Aha!  Yes, that seems to do the job, if I set an appropriate width.  Many
thanks, Chris.

What a great list this is.

RI


Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Taylor
 Sent: 20 June 2007 16:11
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
 Have you tried the button element? As far as I know that 
 can be styled pretty much how you want. I used it on this page:
 http://www.searchandgo.com/weather/United-States/New-York-City
/ - the New York City exchange rates text on the left is a  button.
 
 I may have missed the point of your question, of course. It 
 happens regularly with me.
 
 Chris
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
 Sent: 20 June 2007 15:52
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
 I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text 
 in translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button 
 doesn't wrap :O 
 
 Original:
 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.ph
p#endlinks
 (see the box to the right)
 First problematic translation:
 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.ph
p#endlinks
 
 I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but 
 trigger a POST, so I put the text in a submit button and 
 styled it. Unfortunately the longer translations won't wrap that way.
 
 form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php 
 method=post pinput class=interaction value=Send us a 
 comment type=submit/p input name=docname 
 value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php
 type=hidden
 input name=referer
 value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charse
t.fr.php
 type=hidden
 input name=lang value=en type=hidden /form
 
 Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to 
 avoid using JavaScript, if possible.
 
 Cheers,
 RI
 
 
 
 Richard Ishida
 Internationalization Lead
 W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
  
 http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
 http://www.w3.org/International/
 http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
  
 
 
 
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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Richard Ishida
Hmm. On the other hand..

It works fine in Firefox, Opera, Safari (Win), but not in IE :((

Grr.

RI


Richard Ishida
Internationalization Lead
W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
http://www.w3.org/International/
http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
 
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
 Sent: 20 June 2007 17:08
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
 Aha!  Yes, that seems to do the job, if I set an appropriate 
 width.  Many thanks, Chris.
 
 What a great list this is.
 
 RI
 
 
 Richard Ishida
 Internationalization Lead
 W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
  
 http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
 http://www.w3.org/International/
 http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
  
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Taylor
  Sent: 20 June 2007 16:11
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
  
  Have you tried the button element? As far as I know that can be 
  styled pretty much how you want. I used it on this page:
  http://www.searchandgo.com/weather/United-States/New-York-City
 / - the New York City exchange rates text on the left is a  button.
  
  I may have missed the point of your question, of course. It happens 
  regularly with me.
  
  Chris
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
  Sent: 20 June 2007 15:52
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
  
  I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in 
  translation, but I forgot that text on a submit button 
 doesn't wrap :O
  
  Original:
  http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.ph
 p#endlinks
  (see the box to the right)
  First problematic translation:
  http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.ph
 p#endlinks
  
  I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, 
 but trigger a 
  POST, so I put the text in a submit button and styled it. 
  Unfortunately the longer translations won't wrap that way.
  
  form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php 
  method=post pinput class=interaction value=Send us 
 a comment 
  type=submit/p input name=docname
  value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php
  type=hidden
  input name=referer
  value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charse
 t.fr.php
  type=hidden
  input name=lang value=en type=hidden /form
  
  Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to 
 avoid using 
  JavaScript, if possible.
  
  Cheers,
  RI
  
  
  
  Richard Ishida
  Internationalization Lead
  W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
   
  http://www.w3.org/People/Ishida/
  http://www.w3.org/International/
  http://people.w3.org/rishida/blog/
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ishida/
   
  
  
  
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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Chris Taylor
 Have you tried the button element? As far as I know that can be
 styled
 pretty much how you want. I used it on this page:
 http://www.searchandgo.com/weather/United-States/New-York-City/ - the
 New
 York City exchange rates text on the left is a button.

Clever...
I'd add a cursor:pointer declaration to give pointing device users a clue
that this text is clickable.

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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Alan Trick
I don't know if this is important to you, but you should really use GET,
not POST. POST is supposed to be used when you're actually doing
something to a page like submitting data. There, you're just getting a
form. See http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec9.html

Alan Trick

Richard Ishida wrote:
 I put together a box that expands to accommodate larger text in translation, 
 but I forgot that text on a submit button doesn't wrap :O 
 
 Original: 
 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php#endlinks (see 
 the box to the right)
 First problematic translation: 
 http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php#endlinks
 
 I want the text Send us a comment to look like a link, but trigger a POST, 
 so I put the text in a submit button and styled it. Unfortunately the longer 
 translations won't wrap that way.
 
 form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
 pinput class=interaction value=Send us a comment type=submit/p
 input name=docname value=/International/questions/qa-css-charset.en.php 
 type=hidden
 input name=referer 
 value=http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-css-charset.fr.php; 
 type=hidden
 input name=lang value=en type=hidden 
 /form
 
 Does anyone know a better way to do this?  I was hoping to avoid using 
 JavaScript, if possible.
 
 Cheers,
 RI
 
 
 
 Richard Ishida
 Internationalization Lead
 W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)



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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 20 Jun 2007, at 17:37:59, Richard Ishida wrote:


Hmm. On the other hand..

It works fine in Firefox, Opera, Safari (Win), but not in IE :((

Grr.


Have you specified the type attribute with value submit? Although  
the spec states that this is the default, IE defaults to the value  
button instead. Specifying the attribute should get it working in IE.


OT: really enjoyed your presentation at @media in London the other  
week :-)


HTH,

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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
 Hmm. On the other hand..
 
 It works fine in Firefox, Opera, Safari (Win), but not in IE :((
 
 Grr.

AFAIK, the only thing that works in IE is to use a br / within the
string...

OT: really enjoyed your presentation at @media in San Francisco the other
week :-)

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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Richard Ishida
Thanks, Nick.

I did have the attribute set already, but it doesn't seem to help.  Here is
my code now:

form action=/International/2007/06/surveyform.php method=post
pbutton class=interaction type=submitimg
src=/International/icons/mailus.gif alt=  / Envianos un
comentario/button/p
input type=hidden name=docname value=$self /
input type=hidden name=referer value=$referer /
input type=hidden name=lang value=$clang / 
/form

And my CSS:

.container button.interaction {
  font-size: 130%;
  color: #e70;
  background-color: #ff; 
  border: 0; 
  margin: 0; 
  padding: 0;
  text-align: left; /* for IE */
  cursor: pointer;
  max-width: 100%;
  }

IE still truncates the French, rather than wrapping it.  I will probably
have to resort to using br /, but that's far from ideal for boxes with
some flex to them or when users may have different fonts etc.

RI


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 Subject: Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
 On 20 Jun 2007, at 17:37:59, Richard Ishida wrote:
 
  Hmm. On the other hand..
 
  It works fine in Firefox, Opera, Safari (Win), but not in IE :((
 
  Grr.
 
 Have you specified the type attribute with value submit? 
 Although the spec states that this is the default, IE 
 defaults to the value button instead. Specifying the 
 attribute should get it working in IE.
 
 OT: really enjoyed your presentation at @media in London the 
 other week :-)
 
 HTH,
 
 Nick.
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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Richard Ishida
Thanks, Thierry.  Yes, I'm beginning to conclude that that's the only thing
that I can do, too.  It doesn't really solve the problem though, when you
have flexibility wrt box size or fonts, accessibility zooming, etc.  Oh
well...

Glad you enjoyed the talk.

Cheers, RI


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W3C (World Wide Web Consortium)
 
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 Subject: RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?
 
  On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
  Hmm. On the other hand..
  
  It works fine in Firefox, Opera, Safari (Win), but not in IE :((
  
  Grr.
 
 AFAIK, the only thing that works in IE is to use a br / 
 within the string...
 
 OT: really enjoyed your presentation at @media in San 
 Francisco the other week :-)
 
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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Richard Ishida
 
 Thanks, Thierry.  Yes, I'm beginning to conclude that that's the only
 thing
 that I can do, too.  It doesn't really solve the problem though, when
 you
 have flexibility wrt box size or fonts, accessibility zooming, etc.  Oh
 well...

I came up with this:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
But it requires to move the text out of the button :(

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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Sander Aarts


Thierry Koblentz schreef:

I came up with this:
http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
But it requires to move the text out of the button :(
  


In Opera (9.21) not all of the text is clickable.


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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Sander Aarts
 Thierry Koblentz schreef:
  I came up with this:
  http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
  But it requires to move the text out of the button :(
 
 
 In Opera (9.21) not all of the text is clickable.

Hi Sander, thanks for the feedback. 
I just checked in Opera 8.5 and it is even worst, the whole button area is
clickable, which means much more than just the text. It seems that from v8.5
to v9.21 they went from one extreme to the other :)

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Re: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 I came up with this:
 http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/button.asp
 But it requires to move the text out of the button :(

I'm sort of just catching the end of this, but are you guys talking about 
something like what I did on my daughter's blog [1]?

[1] http://sarahcherim.com/ (look at the Contribution Cow on the sidebar)

I didn't use button (not sure if that's was the point or just making 
clickable image/text form posting).

Cheers.
Mike Cherim

PS. Just a little disclaimer, looking at the image/text form on that site I 
realized I should have used a legend instead of the heading. It's not 
clickable in Opera either, by the way -- just the image.
 



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RE: [WSG] Triggering POSTs with links?

2007-06-20 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com
 I'm sort of just catching the end of this, but are you guys talking
 about
 something like what I did on my daughter's blog [1]?
 
 [1] http://sarahcherim.com/ (look at the Contribution Cow on the
 sidebar)
 
 I didn't use button (not sure if that's was the point or just making
 clickable image/text form posting).

Hi Mike,
That's a nice trick. As a side note, I think you could drop the for
attribute as you have the input element inside the label.

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