Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-30 Thread Schalk Neethling

Hey there All,

This seems to be a huge problem on the web today. I am in the process of 
building a CMS that will be from the ground up built to standards 
compliant and accessible. Also, the big issue is to ensure that whatever 
the CMS outputs abides by the same rules.


The project is being developed as an open source project so anyone that 
wishes to know more and want to join in and help in the building of the 
CMS is more then welcome. It is being hosted on 
code.google.com/p/alliedbridge


Kind Regards
Schalk

Nick Roper wrote:

Hi Mark,

Have you looked at Karova?

www.karova.com

It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based 
solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so 
it is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. 
One thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not 
available to install on your own server as far as I know.


It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund 
(not our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the 
following URL if you want a look:


http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk

I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on 
more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look.


Cheers,

Nick




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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-30 Thread Frank Palinkas
Thanks Schalk!

Please keep us informed?

Frank


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Sent: Wednesday, 30 May, 2007 11:36 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Hey there All,

This seems to be a huge problem on the web today. I am in the process of 
building a CMS that will be from the ground up built to standards 
compliant and accessible. Also, the big issue is to ensure that whatever 
the CMS outputs abides by the same rules.

The project is being developed as an open source project so anyone that 
wishes to know more and want to join in and help in the building of the 
CMS is more then welcome. It is being hosted on 
code.google.com/p/alliedbridge

Kind Regards
Schalk

Nick Roper wrote:
 Hi Mark,

 Have you looked at Karova?

 www.karova.com

 It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based 
 solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so 
 it is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. 
 One thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not 
 available to install on your own server as far as I know.

 It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund 
 (not our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the 
 following URL if you want a look:

 http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk

 I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on 
 more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look.

 Cheers,

 Nick



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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-30 Thread Marcin Szczepanski
Rather than muck around with CMS systems for content sites, we get our
clients to use Adobe Contribute:

http://www.adobe.com/products/contribute/

Essentially provides them a WYSIWYG interface to edit pages on their
site, preview them, etc.  Works with Dreamweaver templates for editable
regions, repeating regions, etc - but these are just special comments
in the HTML, so you could add them without Dreamweaver.

With the right combination of editable regions etc you can even have
non-technical users editing dynamic sites, as you just don't give them
access to edit the parts that generate code.

It's not free, but you're going to save time compared to setting up a
server-side CMS and moving the site into it, etc.   Also supports
posting to blogs and things like that.

Might not be the best solution for a 10,000+ page Intranet that needs
complex workflow etc, but most sites aren't that sort of size.

Regards,
Marcin Szczepanski
Senior Web Developer
webqem pty ltd


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Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-30 Thread John Faulds
I've not had that much experience with DW/Contribute, but I know they've  
both got pretty ordinary CSS support which means in a lot of cases you  
have to create separate Design Time Stylesheets just to get your layout to  
look presentable in Contribute.


On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:50:33 +1000, Marcin Szczepanski  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Rather than muck around with CMS systems for content sites, we get our
clients to use Adobe Contribute:

http://www.adobe.com/products/contribute/

Essentially provides them a WYSIWYG interface to edit pages on their
site, preview them, etc.  Works with Dreamweaver templates for editable
regions, repeating regions, etc - but these are just special comments
in the HTML, so you could add them without Dreamweaver.

With the right combination of editable regions etc you can even have
non-technical users editing dynamic sites, as you just don't give them
access to edit the parts that generate code.

It's not free, but you're going to save time compared to setting up a
server-side CMS and moving the site into it, etc.   Also supports
posting to blogs and things like that.

Might not be the best solution for a 10,000+ page Intranet that needs
complex workflow etc, but most sites aren't that sort of size.

Regards,
Marcin Szczepanski
Senior Web Developer
webqem pty ltd


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On Behalf Of Kevin Ross
Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 2:16 AM
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Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-29 Thread Steve Olive
On Tue, 29 May 2007 01:51:16 am Kevin Ross wrote:

 Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

 Regards,
 Kevin.



Have you tried looking at http://www.opensourcecms.com/? They have working 
installations of all Open Source CMS that you can try as user and 
administrator. Sit down with the client and try each one out.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-29 Thread Nick Roper

Hi Mark,

Have you looked at Karova?

www.karova.com

It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based 
solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so it 
is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. One 
thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not available 
to install on your own server as far as I know.


It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund (not 
our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the 
following URL if you want a look:


http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk

I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on 
more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look.


Cheers,

Nick

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Mark Hedley wrote:

Keeping an eye on it myself. Just a shame their doesn't seem to be
support for non-native Commerce yet.

Hopefully development will grow for UK and other territories soon : )

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


http://www.tommeetippee.com

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200
Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have head very good things about silver stripe
http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to
cusomise and manipulate.

Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
Flexible. MVC framework 
Scalable. From 1 page to a million 
Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant 
Modular. Easy to extend 
Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site 
Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)

Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based


Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other
CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by
a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's
extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom
templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are
quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and
discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to
create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. 


There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module
exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next
release  (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra
modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I
certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it.

I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment,
first time :)

Cheers,

Tate Johnson


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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Hedley
Id recommend you look at:

Drupal - http://www.drupal.org

OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org

TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com

There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three
stick out.

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


http://www.tommeetippee.com

Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England  Wales
(registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane,
Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH.  Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191)
2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in
England  Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at
Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864,
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Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Kevin Ross

Thanks for your input.  Regards, Kevin.

On 5/28/07, Mark Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Id recommend you look at:

Drupal - http://www.drupal.org

OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org

TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com

There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three
stick out.

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


http://www.tommeetippee.com

Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England  Wales
(registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane,
Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH.  Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191)
2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in
England  Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at
Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864,
Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are
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Sent: 28 May 2007 16:51
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Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Hedley
Pleasure. Let us all know how you get on.

Regards,

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


http://www.tommeetippee.com

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(registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane,
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2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in
England  Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at
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Sent: 28 May 2007 19:44
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

Thanks for your input.  Regards, Kevin.

On 5/28/07, Mark Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Id recommend you look at:

 Drupal - http://www.drupal.org

 OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org

 TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com

 There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three
 stick out.

 Mark Hedley
 Web Development Manager
 Mayborn Baby  Child Division


 http://www.tommeetippee.com

 Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England 
Wales
 (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane,
 Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH.  Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191)
 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in
 England  Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is
at
 Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191)
2501864,
 Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International
are
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 On Behalf Of Kevin Ross
 Sent: 28 May 2007 16:51
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

 Hi:

 I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

 I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
 manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
 designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
 systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
 do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
 handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
 own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
 Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
 about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
 Joomla, Wordpress...

 Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

 Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Sean Fraser

On Mon May 28 11:44 , 'Kevin Ross' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:


 Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...


I like MODx = http://www.modxcms.com/

It is intuitive and flexible. It is an excellent mid-range general purpose CMS (and, it has blog features).



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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread kevin mcmonagle
I was in your situation about six months ago and someone on the list 
recommended textpattern.
The textpattern text editor  textdrive is meant to be easy to 
learn-clients can do simple formatting to their content updates easily. 
I was able to train a client to use it in one sitting. Still if i had a 
client that is extremely illiterate i wouldn't bother building a site 
with a cms.


-best
kevin

Kevin Ross wrote:

Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Adeline Yaw
I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the 
feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source 
CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your 
client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/
Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available 
to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) 
solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites.



Kevin Ross wrote:


Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Robin Gorry


I have head very good things about silver stripe
http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise and
manipulate.

Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
Flexible. MVC framework 
Scalable. From 1 page to a million 
Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant 
Modular. Easy to extend 
Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site 
Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)
Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based


Robin 

I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the 
feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source 
CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your 
client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/
Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available 
to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) 
solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites.


Kevin Ross wrote:

 Hi:

 I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

 I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
 manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
 designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
 systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
 do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
 handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
 own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
 Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
 about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
 Joomla, Wordpress...

 Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

 Regards,
 Kevin.


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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Hedley
Bad thing is if you don't have access to PHP5 on all client systems with
silverstripe you are either left out or forced to upgrade.

Looks like a nice CMS never the less.

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


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I have head very good things about silver stripe
http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise
and
manipulate.

Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
Flexible. MVC framework 
Scalable. From 1 page to a million 
Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant 
Modular. Easy to extend 
Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site 
Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)
Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based


Robin 

I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the 
feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source 
CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your

client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/
Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available 
to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) 
solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites.


Kevin Ross wrote:

 Hi:

 I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

 I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
 manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
 designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
 systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
 do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
 handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
 own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
 Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
 about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
 Joomla, Wordpress...

 Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

 Regards,
 Kevin.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread John Faulds
I liked what I saw of Silverstripe but unfortunately it has a certain PHP  
memory limit requirement which my web host wasn't willing to change so it  
ruled it out for me unless I wanted to change hosts.


On Tue, 29 May 2007 08:50:15 +1000, Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I have head very good things about silver stripe
http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise  
and

manipulate.

Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
Flexible. MVC framework
Scalable. From 1 page to a million
Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant
Modular. Easy to extend
Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site
Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)
Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based


Robin

I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the
feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source
CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your
client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/
Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available
to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/)
solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites.


Kevin Ross wrote:


Hi:

I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement.

I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to
manage the site on her own.  She is computer literate, but not a web
designer, by any means.  I am new to the idea of Content Management
systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really
do and how to set one up.  I guess I am wondering how other designers
handle this type of issue?  How do you setup clients to manage their
own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web
Design.  I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking
about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software...
Joomla, Wordpress...

Can anyone lend a hand?  Thanks very much...

Regards,
Kevin.


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Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Tate Johnson
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200
Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I have head very good things about silver stripe
 http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
 This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to
 cusomise and manipulate.
 
 Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
 Flexible. MVC framework 
 Scalable. From 1 page to a million 
 Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
 Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant 
 Modular. Easy to extend 
 Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site 
 Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)
 Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based

Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other
CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by
a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's
extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom
templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are
quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and
discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to
create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. 

There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module
exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next
release  (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra
modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I
certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it.

I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment,
first time :)

Cheers,

Tate Johnson


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RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

2007-05-28 Thread Mark Hedley
Keeping an eye on it myself. Just a shame their doesn't seem to be
support for non-native Commerce yet.

Hopefully development will grow for UK and other territories soon : )

Mark Hedley
Web Development Manager
Mayborn Baby  Child Division


http://www.tommeetippee.com

Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England  Wales
(registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane,
Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH.  Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191)
2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in
England  Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at
Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864,
Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are
part of the Mayborn Group

This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended
solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please
do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us
immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply.  Please then delete
this transmission from your system.  You should also be aware that all
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Tate Johnson
Sent: 29 May 2007 01:47
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?

On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200
Robin Gorry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I have head very good things about silver stripe
 http://www.silverstripe.com/home/
 This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to
 cusomise and manipulate.
 
 Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly
 Flexible. MVC framework 
 Scalable. From 1 page to a million 
 Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support
 Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant 
 Modular. Easy to extend 
 Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site 
 Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD)
 Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based

Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other
CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by
a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's
extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom
templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are
quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and
discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to
create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. 

There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module
exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next
release  (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra
modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I
certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it.

I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment,
first time :)

Cheers,

Tate Johnson


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