RE: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Peter Goddard
Hi Sander

I had to develop my own in c# asp.net2.0 to ensure standards
compatability. This uses IIS, .net framwork 2.0 and sqlServer 2000.
It didn't take all that long as really it was a request tracking system
rather than a full blown intranet solution. But .net 2.0 is easy to
shape into valid web standards and writes as compliant xhtml 1.1. Its
pretty quick to code as well. I'd suggest a home grown approach if they
can wait while you specify, model and code.

Unfortunately, my employers own the intellectual copyright so I can't
pass it on.

You could check out the dotnetnuke portal modules to see if any can be
adapted.

Good luck!

Peter 

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Subject: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

Hello list,
For the college I am working for I am looking for new helpdesk software
for internal use on the college intranet. However I am unable to find
any solution that's based on webstandards, the code on all software that
we've come across is horribly and I would spent too much time cleaning
up everything to consider it.

Google search for 'helpdesk webstandards' doesn't turn up anything
either, it seems the helpdesk software creators live seperated from the
webstandards. Therefore as a last resort I was hoping perhaps one of the
people here would have some experience of the software I look for.

Preferably it could be based on IIS, ASP, SQL Server but alternatives
will be considered, seeing as there aren't many contenders.
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Re: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Jan Brasna
Maybe http://www.edgewall.com/trac/? It depends on the functionality 
and features you need.


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Re: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Samuel Richardson
If it's for internal use then you must have a fairly standard platform 
for it to run on (I'm guessing windows 2000 or XP machines with IE6) in 
that case web standards would be a fairly low priority as you have such 
a common interface to work with.


Samuel
http://www.seasonstravel.com.au


Sander van Dragt wrote:


Hello list,
For the college I am working for I am looking for new helpdesk
software for internal use on the college intranet. However I am unable
to find any solution that's based on webstandards, the code on all
software that we've come across is horribly and I would spent too much
time cleaning up everything to consider it.

Google search for 'helpdesk webstandards' doesn't turn up anything
either, it seems the helpdesk software creators live seperated from
the webstandards. Therefore as a last resort I was hoping perhaps one
of the people here would have some experience of the software I look
for.

Preferably it could be based on IIS, ASP, SQL Server but alternatives
will be considered, seeing as there aren't many contenders.
--
Best regards,
Sander van Dragt
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Re: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Karl Dawson
On 10/01/06, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If it's for internal use then you must have a fairly standard platform
 for it to run on (I'm guessing windows 2000 or XP machines with IE6) in
 that case web standards would be a fairly low priority as you have such
 a common interface to work with.

 Samuel
 http://www.seasonstravel.com.au

You are joking of course? What about *employees* present or future
with disabilities?


 Sander van Dragt wrote:

 Hello list,
 For the college I am working for I am looking for new helpdesk
 software for internal use on the college intranet. However I am unable
 to find any solution that's based on webstandards, the code on all
 software that we've come across is horribly and I would spent too much
 time cleaning up everything to consider it.
 
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Re: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Samuel Richardson
Your confusing web accessibility with web standards, a page can be valid 
XHTML while not being accessible, likewise this works in reverse.



You are joking of course? What about *employees* present or future
with disabilities?

 


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Re: [WSG] No Helpdesk software based on webstandards?

2006-01-10 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Samuel Richardson wrote:
Your confusing web accessibility with web standards, a page can be valid 
XHTML while not being accessible, likewise this works in reverse.


I believe that Karl rightly meant web standards in the wider sense. It's 
not just the syntax side (valid XHTML, CSS layout) but the 
semantic/structural side of web standards (headers are marked up as H1, 
H2, etc, inputs and other form widgets are appropriately labelled, etc)...


Of course, a lot of AT compensate for tag soup, and a page that is just 
shy of validation because of some trivial syntax error is not, in most 
cases, going to cause a huge accessibility barrier. However, a 
site/system that completely does away with correct semantics, uses 
triple- or quadruple-nested tables for layout, etc will be a lot more 
difficult, if not impossible, to use by users relying on AT.


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