Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Yes you can use the IE6 PNG filter. However note that IE6 implementations before the service packs will not support this either. And yes there are major installations of IE6 on these older subversions of IE6. This used to trip me up all the time. To the point that I no longer bother, just replacing the PNG in IE6 with the GIF. All park of the not for perfect experience for IE6 users. -- Gary Barber User Experience Designer/ Web Architect Web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com Zain Ansari wrote: Hi Mike, A simple solution for IE6 PNG support is _*HTML Code:*_ div class=iePng_logo id=ieBg img src=images/logo_png.png class=ieHide //div _*CSS Code:*_ .iePng_logo {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/logo_png.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:307px; height:34px;} .iePng {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/screenshot.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:438px; height:230px;} .ieHide {border:0 solid #fff; _display:none;} #ieBg {border:0;} You can check its working demo from the following URL, Check top left logo in all browsers its transparent PNG, you can save it and check its transparency http://expertsdesk.net/novotech/ From: b...@bendodson.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0100 Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks). If it's just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine. Ben --- *e:* b...@bendodson.com mailto:b...@bendodson.com *w:* http://bendodson.com/ Feeling social? Connect with me on various social networks at http://social.bendodson.com/ - You might also want to follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/bendodson On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote: I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not in others. Is this still a relevant issue? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. Hi. You may freely use .png in your work. Only browser, which can't work with .png — ie6. But using conditional comments you may create separate stile sheet and using filter handle it. Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not in others. Is this still a relevant issue? Exactly, what browser cause problems? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Mike Kear wrote: I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. PNG is fine unless you have gamma information in the file[1] or 24-bit translucency and a need to support IE6[2] [1] http://hsivonen.iki.fi/png-gamma/ [2] http://www.dillerdesign.com/experiment/DD_belatedPNG/ -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks). If it's just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine. Ben --- e: b...@bendodson.com w: http://bendodson.com/ Feeling social? Connect with me on various social networks at http://social.bendodson.com/ - You might also want to follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/bendodson On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote: I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not in others. Is this still a relevant issue? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Hi Mike, A simple solution for IE6 PNG support is HTML Code: div class=iePng_logo id=ieBg img src=images/logo_png.png class=ieHide //div CSS Code: .iePng_logo {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/logo_png.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:307px; height:34px;} .iePng {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/screenshot.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:438px; height:230px;} .ieHide {border:0 solid #fff; _display:none;} #ieBg {border:0;} You can check its working demo from the following URL, Check top left logo in all browsers its transparent PNG, you can save it and check its transparency http://expertsdesk.net/novotech/ From: b...@bendodson.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0100 Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks). If it's just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine. Ben ---e: b...@bendodson.comw: http://bendodson.com/ Feeling social? Connect with me on various social networks at http://social.bendodson.com/ - You might also want to follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/bendodson On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote:I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not in others. Is this still a relevant issue? CheersMike KearWindsor, NSW, Australia0422 985 585Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion DeveloperAFP Webworks Pty Ltdhttp://afpwebworks.comFull Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Mike Kear wrote: I'm looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I'm building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I'm wondering what everyone else's experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. As others confirm, only IE 6 has problems with PNG files. Even IE 6 can be accommodated if you use 8-bit PNG. Check out this Sitepoint article: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/ Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***