Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Yeah, but the Kiwis are not Australians, they are New Zealanders, so we have an excuse ;p That said, looking forward to the notes being available, impossible to get to Sydney to be at the real deal. On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:04:26 -0700, Ted Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ted (from San Diego, those in Los Angeles treat us like Australians treat the kiwis. > We just don't have a cute nickname.) Natalie -- Freelance Website Designer/Developer www.pixelkitty.net www.ausblog.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
How many times have the kiwi's had to see this line. (New Zealand does'nt count) tsk tsk. by the way, I like the new golden kiwis, much tastier than the green ones. keep up the good work. Ted (from San Diego, those in Los Angeles treat us like Australians treat the kiwis. We just don't have a cute nickname.) -Original Message- From: Lennart Fylling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 1:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites I agree, it's not easy travelling from Norway on a weekday :) Australia? I actually can't get further away from home .Any longer, I'm suddenly on my way home:) (New Zealand does'nt count) -- Lennart Fylling http://lennart-fylling.com >> ** >> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >> >> Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ >> Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge >> To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 >> >> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >> ** >> >> >> ** >> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >> >> Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ >> Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge >> To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 >> >> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >> ** >> >> >> >> > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge > To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Leslie Riggs wrote: > O, do I second that emotion!!! So many of us just can't get > there, and this is invaluable information for us to learn. > > Leslie Riggs I agree, it's not easy travelling from Norway on a weekday :) Australia? I actually can't get further away from home .Any longer, I'm suddenly on my way home:) (New Zealand does'nt count) -- Lennart Fylling http://lennart-fylling.com >> ** >> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >> >> Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ >> Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge >> To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 >> >> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >> ** >> >> >> ** >> The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ >> >> Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ >> Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge >> To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 >> >> See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help >> ** >> >> >> >> > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge > To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
O, do I second that emotion!!! So many of us just can't get there, and this is invaluable information for us to learn. Leslie Riggs Nancy Johnson wrote: Can his speech be put on your website in some form? Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:49 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking about accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the upcoming September WE04 conference. :) Russ Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Hi Nancy, The answer is yes. After the WE04 conference is over, Dave Shea, Doug Bowman, Joe Clark, Bruce Macguire and all other presenters will be putting their presentation notes online in some form. We will link to them via the WSG list, and they will also be available via the conference website: http://we04.com Not quite as good as seeing them face to face, but for those who cannot make it :) Russ on 23/8/04 11:33 PM, Nancy Johnson at wrote: > Can his speech be put on your website in some form? > > Nancy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of russ - maxdesign > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:49 AM > To: Web Standards Group > Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name > sites > > And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking > about > accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the > upcoming September WE04 conference. > > :) > Russ > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Can his speech be put on your website in some form? Nancy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of russ - maxdesign Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:49 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking about accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the upcoming September WE04 conference. :) Russ > Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human > Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. > You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
On Sunday, Aug 22, 2004, at 09:48 Australia/Sydney, Michael Kear wrote: I was interested that the Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission uses tables for layout in their web site at: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/index.html http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/faq/f.a.q.html Cheers Mike Kear It's going to be interesting to see, over the coming months (years?), what happens with legislated accessibility here in Australia. I found out, in my limited experience in coding new content for Govt departments, how far away the majority of Govt sites are from being either accessible or Standards compliant. There was a specs document supplied with the brief, referring to W3C, WAI, etc, but the exisiting site I added to was a *long* way short of the specs... Seems like some pretty shoddy lip service being paid to the whole concept, really. It was obvious the original developers had coded for IE/Win, and not tested elsewhere... I pointed this out in the tech handover of my additions, but nothing's been done - and that was almost a year ago. Still, it's been gratifying to see posts to this list by people around the country who are working on Government sites, using standards for new versions. Keep it up, guys. Nick ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
I was interested that the Australian Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission uses tables for layout in their web site at: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/index.html http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/faq/f.a.q.html Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Deering Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 8:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites [snip] In this post I am just trying to make a few points; 1) That there is probably a lot of opportunity to take corps to court, but the disability community are more tolerant than liturguous. 2) Big corps are basically pretty ignorant about accessibility (but this movement in design is probably the best thing to begin changing that). http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/#Australia http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/index.html http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/faq/f.a.q.html ___ Geoff Deering ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Hill, Tim wrote: Wow, that's big, can't believe they had to pay $40,000 that's huge. Relative to the size of the companies, it's not that big; however, it is big enough not to ignore and for other companies to sit up and take notice. The bottom line is that this could be very good for business--ours, that is! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
> -Original Message- > From: Neerav > sites > > > The more salient question would be whether corporates can be forced to > do so in australia, as SOCOG was a government corporation. AFAIK whether > australian corporates can be forced to comply to W3C/accessibility > guidelines is untested in the courts. > > -- > Neerav Bhatt That is the question. I'm not up with all the cases over the last few years, but there is a community down in Florida that have taken a lot of commercial web sites to court. From memory, they had some wins, and then they started to get cases dismissed. I think they began to be seen as just perusing cases for the sake of it. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it seems to have been part of the perception. >From what I can gather from people working closely with the disability section of the community, it is not the way they prefer to work to get things changed and accomplished. They would prefer to work with people to change the approach without too much sabre rattling. Changing designers attitude to standards, like those on this list, is the way to success. At the same time, my own personal opinion is that just about any of the major corps are sitting ducks for anyone who wanted to sue them under this legislation if they were providing an essential service. If you go to the OZEWAI conferences, or the like, you will hear case after case of how the internet has made life easier for people with disabilities. They can now pay their bills online, order goods, and do many other things from their PC that would have otherwise required them to physically go to places to engage in purchases and do transactions. Some corps have the best of intentions, yet still remain clueless. Telstra are a case in point. Telstra put a lot of work into trying to make their standard templates usable and accessible, but because their standards department rely on poor tools like Bobby, they think their templates meet WCAG P1 when they don't. And if you are a Telstra contractor and try and tell them that, don't be surprised to see a move to have your contract terminated. The people at Telstra Research Labs have a great understanding of usability and accessibility, but these days their opinion is unfortunately not sought as often as it should be, if it was, Telstra would have far more usable and accessible sites. So even though Telstra think they have all this covered, they don't, and they could be sued. If they where sued, they would probably be incredibly surprised that such an action would happen. Just to highlight another point. Whilst I was on contract at Telstra, they outsourced a redevelopment of their Intranet publishing system. I was involved in sessions for the design by the usability company, but when it was finally produced and presented to a meeting of 450 Telstra developers and managers, the main outsourced development company boosted that it complied with WCAG P1 & P2 levels. I could see, just by looking at the interface that it didn't, and went up to the main team and told them it didn't. They assured me it did. I told them it didn't. To cut to the chase, 6 months later I found myself in their office applying for a job as a web developer to fix up this application that they had built for Telstra under contract to comply with WCAG1 P1 & 2, and to fix it to meet this level of requirement. The point I am trying to make, is that in the large corporate, government, and even EDU sectors, many of them think they have accessibility covered, but they don't. And a lot of this is because they rely on Bobby and it is such a sub standard checking tool. It's okay to use as a testing tools as long as you know it's shortcomings. I don't regard the people on this list in the same light at all. People here generally have a pretty good understanding of accessibility issues, and if you are following the basic principles of web standards design, you have most of this covered. In this post I am just trying to make a few points; 1) That there is probably a lot of opportunity to take corps to court, but the disability community are more tolerant than liturguous. 2) Big corps are basically pretty ignorant about accessibility (but this movement in design is probably the best thing to begin changing that). http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/#Australia http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/index.html http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/faq/f.a.q.html ___ Geoff Deering ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
> Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites Shouldn't that be inaccessible? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking about accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the upcoming September WE04 conference. :) Russ > Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human > Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. > You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html > ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
The more salient question would be whether corporates can be forced to do so in australia, as SOCOG was a government corporation. AFAIK whether australian corporates can be forced to comply to W3C/accessibility guidelines is untested in the courts. -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Nick Cowie wrote: Cameron wrote: Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the potential for similar effects? Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html Nick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Ah, I was under the impression that that was pertaining to Government sites. -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com --- Nick Cowie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cameron > wrote: > > > Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has > the > > potential for similar effects? > > Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was > 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded > A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. > You can find it all here: > http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html > > Nick > ** > The discussion list for > http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 > http://we04.com/ > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, > knowledge > To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, > 2004 > > See > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting > help > ** > > ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Cameron wrote: > Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the > potential for similar effects? Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html Nick ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Wow, that's big, can't believe they had to pay $40,000 that's huge.
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19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has deemed parts of
Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible to assistive technology.
"The Attorney General opined that the Americans With Disabilities Act
requires that private web sites be accessible to blind and visually
impaired Internet users."
Settlements reached will attempt to make both sites more accessible.
"Under the terms of the agreements, the companies will implement a range
of accessibility standards authored by the Web Accessibility Initiative
("WAI") of the World Wide Web Consortium ("W3C"), an organization that
recommends Internet standards."
"The companies must also implement a wide variety of other initiatives,
based on guidelines authored by the W3C."
"In addition to the steps outline above, Ramada.com and Priceline.com
will pay the State of New York $40,000 and $37,500, respectively, as
costs of the investigation. The Attorney General emphasized that once
the companies were notified of the accessibility issues by his office,
they worked cooperatively and creatively with his Internet Bureau to
correct the issues."
Attorney General's Press Release
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/aug/aug19a_04.html
Sandy Clark's comments
http://www.shayna.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=78672CBF-CABE-65E3
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John Dowdell's comments
http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005883.cfm
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Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Wow, that's big.
Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the
potential for similar effects?
--
Cameron
W: www.themaninblue.com
--- Ben Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has
> deemed parts of
> Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible to
> assistive technology.
>
> "The Attorney General opined that the Americans With
> Disabilities Act
> requires that private web sites be accessible to
> blind and visually
> impaired Internet users."
>
> Settlements reached will attempt to make both sites
> more accessible.
>
> "Under the terms of the agreements, the companies
> will implement a
> range of accessibility standards authored by the Web
> Accessibility
> Initiative ("WAI") of the World Wide Web Consortium
> ("W3C"), an
> organization that recommends Internet standards."
>
> "The companies must also implement a wide variety of
> other
> initiatives, based on guidelines authored by the
> W3C."
>
> "In addition to the steps outline above, Ramada.com
> and Priceline.com
> will pay the State of New York $40,000 and $37,500,
> respectively, as
> costs of the investigation. The Attorney General
> emphasized that once
> the companies were notified of the accessibility
> issues by his office,
> they worked cooperatively and creatively with his
> Internet Bureau to
> correct the issues."
>
> Attorney General's Press Release
>
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/aug/aug19a_04.html
>
> Sandy Clark's comments
>
http://www.shayna.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=78672CBF-CABE-65E3-306A96044957F88C
>
> John Dowdell's comments
> http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005883.cfm
>
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