RE: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-22 Thread Jeff - Accessibility 1st








I agree with James that you might need to re-look at
the way you are doing this, but I think a better way to accomplish it would be
to style a list. Therefore you won't run into any adjacent link problems with
accessibility validation - (WCAG 1.0 AAA - point
10.3)

 

Anyway here’s a link to a page I quickly made,
hope this helps you.

http://www.accessibility1st.com.au/tutorials/image_gallery.html

 

Cheers 

 

Jeff Lowder

Website: www.accessibility1st.com.au

 

 

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Of James Ellis
Sent: Monday, 22 March 2004 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] mysterious space

 

Peter

 

Sounds like a trip on the Magical Mystery Whitespace
Tour (sponsored by 

Microsoft). I had this problem while back with a
nested list, threw 

things at the screen in the end to try and fix it.
Luckily calmness 

(counted to 32768 backwards) prevailed and I ended up
rejigging the 

complete list (all was well). :D

 

You have this :

 



Feature Gallery

Click on thumbnail for larger
images

  

  

  

  

 



 

Try this

 



Feature Gallery

Click on thumbnail for larger
images

  

  

  

  





 

CSS:

 

.gallerygrid a img

{

 float :
left;

}

 

.break

{

 clear :
both;

}

 

---

You may also need to do this in IE:

 



Feature Gallery

Click on thumbnail for larger
images

  






 

 

Russ has a thing on floats in his floatutorial - IE
needs to have 

absolutely no whitespace between tags sometimes.

 

 

HTH

James

 

 

Universal Head wrote:

 

> Damn - doesn't seem to work for me despite trying
out several 

> permutations! Any other ideas?

> Peter

>

>

>
Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have

>
about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work

>
out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and

>
width, and padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from.

>

>

> I ran into a similar
problem last week... here's the solution that

> worked for me - set
the image display to "block"

>

>
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/

> see "XHTML &
BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page

>

> Josh Parrish

> http://keylime.nu

>

>

> *Universal Head* 

> Design That Works.

>

> 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore

> NSW 2048 Australia

> T (+612) 9517 1466

> F (+612) 9565 4747

> E [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> W www.universalhead.com

>

>

 

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RE: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Universal Head wrote:
> Can anyone enlighten me on this ... 
> my thumbnail pics have about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 
> that I can't work out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified 
> height and width, and padding is 0,. 
> http://www.cinema4duser.com/tech_feature01.html

Try adding font-size:0; to your clearer style

You have also specified a 5px margin at the bottom of the images in both
pic and piclast classes

.pic {
margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
}

The order is: top right bottom then left

Regards
Jason Turnbull


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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Universal Head
James, I greatly appreciate you getting stuck into this. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again
Peter


On 22/03/2004, at 3:09 PM, James Ellis wrote:

Peter

Sounds like a trip on the Magical Mystery Whitespace Tour (sponsored by Microsoft). I had this problem while back with a nested list, threw things at the screen in the end to try and fix it. Luckily calmness (counted to 32768 backwards) prevailed and I ended up rejigging the complete list (all was well). :D

You have this :


Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images




 


Try this


Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images







CSS:

.gallerygrid a img
{
float : left;
}

.break
{
clear : both;
}

---
You may also need to do this in IE:


Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images





Russ has a thing on floats in his floatutorial - IE needs to have absolutely no whitespace between tags sometimes.


HTH
James


Universal Head wrote:

Damn - doesn't seem to work for me despite trying out several permutations! Any other ideas?
Peter


Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have
about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work
out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and
width, and padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from.


I ran into a similar problem last week... here's the solution that
worked for me - set the image display to "block"

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/
see "XHTML & BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page

Josh Parrish
http://keylime.nu


*Universal Head* Design That Works.

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NSW 2048 Australia
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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Leo J. O'Campo
Peter

I'd try neutralizing the default for the span tags that you're using in the html in place of list items.  Set a rule for those specific spans to margin 0 because IE screws the rendering in default. And to be safe 0 the padding as well.

Leo

On Sunday, March 21, 2004, at 10:24  PM, Universal Head wrote:

Damn - doesn't seem to work for me despite trying out several permutations! Any other ideas?
Peter


Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and width, and padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from.

I ran into a similar problem last week... here's the solution that worked for me - set the image display to "block"

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/
see "XHTML & BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page

Josh Parrish
http://keylime.nu

Universal Head 
Design That Works.

7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore
NSW 2048 Australia
T	(+612) 9517 1466
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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread James Ellis
Peter

Sounds like a trip on the Magical Mystery Whitespace Tour (sponsored by 
Microsoft). I had this problem while back with a nested list, threw 
things at the screen in the end to try and fix it. Luckily calmness 
(counted to 32768 backwards) prevailed and I ended up rejigging the 
complete list (all was well). :D

You have this :


Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images




 

Try this


Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images






CSS:

.gallerygrid a img
{
float : left;
}
.break
{
clear : both;
}
---
You may also need to do this in IE:

Feature Gallery
Click on thumbnail for larger images
  


Russ has a thing on floats in his floatutorial - IE needs to have 
absolutely no whitespace between tags sometimes.

HTH
James
Universal Head wrote:

Damn - doesn't seem to work for me despite trying out several 
permutations! Any other ideas?
Peter

Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have
about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work
out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and
width, and padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from.
I ran into a similar problem last week... here's the solution that
worked for me - set the image display to "block"
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/
see "XHTML & BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page
Josh Parrish
http://keylime.nu
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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Universal Head
Damn - doesn't seem to work for me despite trying out several permutations! Any other ideas?
Peter


Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and width, and padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from.

I ran into a similar problem last week... here's the solution that worked for me - set the image display to "block"

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/
see "XHTML & BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page

Josh Parrish
http://keylime.nu

Universal Head 
Design That Works.

7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore
NSW 2048 Australia
T	(+612) 9517 1466
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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Universal Head
The space is *within* the border (ie padding), not outside it (ie margin). These margins allow the floated thumbnails to stay 5px from each other.
Thanks anyway!
Peter


On 22/03/2004, at 1:50 PM, Maureen Beattie wrote:

I am not sure Peter if this is what you mean but you have specified margin: 0; in .gallerygrid  but in .gallerygrid .pic and .gallerygrid .piclast you have specified the margins as - margin: 0 5px 5px 0; and margin: 0 0 5px 0; and as the margin shortcut goes top right bottom left these rules add a 5px space at the bottom. 

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Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Maureen Beattie



you said .. Can anyone enlighten me on this ... 
my thumbnail pics have about 5 pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't 
work out how to remove. In the CSS I have specified height and width, and 
padding is 0, so who knows where its coming from. 
 
I am not sure Peter if this is what you mean but 
you have specified margin: 0; in .gallerygrid  but in .gallerygrid .pic and 
.gallerygrid .piclast you have specified the margins as - margin: 0 5px 5px 0; 
and margin: 0 0 5px 0; and as the margin shortcut goes top right bottom 
left these rules add a 5px space at the bottom. 
.gallerygrid .pic {
	float: left;
	width: 85px;
	height: 85px;
	margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
	border: 1px solid #c1c3ce;
	padding: 0;
}

.gallerygrid .piclast {
	float: left;
	width: 85px;
	height: 85px;
	margin: 0 0 5px 0;
	border: 1px solid #c1c3ce;
	padding: 0;
}HTH - Maureen 


Re: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Josh Parrish
On Mar 21, 2004, at 6:20 PM, Universal Head wrote:

Can anyone enlighten me on this ... my thumbnail pics have about 5 
pixels space at the bottom in IE6 that I can't work out how to remove. 
In the CSS I have specified height and width, and padding is 0, so who 
knows where its coming from.
I ran into a similar problem last week... here's the solution that 
worked for me - set the image display to "block"

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/betterliving/
see "XHTML & BROWSERS" near the bottom of the page
Josh Parrish
http://keylime.nu
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