Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
I've not had that much experience with DW/Contribute, but I know they've both got pretty ordinary CSS support which means in a lot of cases you have to create separate Design Time Stylesheets just to get your layout to look presentable in Contribute. On Thu, 31 May 2007 09:50:33 +1000, Marcin Szczepanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rather than muck around with CMS systems for content sites, we get our clients to use Adobe Contribute: http://www.adobe.com/products/contribute/ Essentially provides them a WYSIWYG interface to edit pages on their site, preview them, etc. Works with Dreamweaver templates for editable regions, repeating regions, etc - but these are just special "comments" in the HTML, so you could add them without Dreamweaver. With the right combination of editable regions etc you can even have non-technical users editing dynamic sites, as you just don't give them access to edit the parts that generate code. It's not free, but you're going to save time compared to setting up a server-side CMS and moving the site into it, etc. Also supports posting to blogs and things like that. Might not be the best solution for a 10,000+ page Intranet that needs complex workflow etc, but most sites aren't that sort of size. Regards, Marcin Szczepanski Senior Web Developer webqem pty ltd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 2:16 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Rather than muck around with CMS systems for content sites, we get our clients to use Adobe Contribute: http://www.adobe.com/products/contribute/ Essentially provides them a WYSIWYG interface to edit pages on their site, preview them, etc. Works with Dreamweaver templates for editable regions, repeating regions, etc - but these are just special "comments" in the HTML, so you could add them without Dreamweaver. With the right combination of editable regions etc you can even have non-technical users editing dynamic sites, as you just don't give them access to edit the parts that generate code. It's not free, but you're going to save time compared to setting up a server-side CMS and moving the site into it, etc. Also supports posting to blogs and things like that. Might not be the best solution for a 10,000+ page Intranet that needs complex workflow etc, but most sites aren't that sort of size. Regards, Marcin Szczepanski Senior Web Developer webqem pty ltd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2007 2:16 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Hi all, A few thoughts from someone who recently moved from a design/developer/coordinator role into one focusing much more on content management: From the conultant/freelancer standpoint, one thing you may want to consider is what your typical client is like. Do you work mostly with individuals and small businesses where there will only be one or two people doing updates? If yes, you might be best using something simple, clean and lean like WordPress (even though it's a blogging platform, it can be used as a fairly effective CMS). Or are your clients typically larger organizations, non-profits etc. where there may be many more people with a hand in the site? If this is the case, you might benefit from the "beefier" CMS's (Joomla, Drupal etc.) that come with all sorts of additional tools for community interaction, and (possibly) a more robust set of user roles/workflow etc. The other thing I'd consider -- more from the designer/developer standpoint -- is to become as familiar as you can with how to customize the layout and use all of the features of the default installation. Once you've done this (maybe tried a few installations with different modifications), decide if you'll be comfortable rolling that out for your existing client(s), and also try to assess if you can manage and live with the additional overhead this will create the first few times (i.e. design/development time). Once you have a thorough understanding of how the platform works, you'll probably find you can easily implement the CMS for any variety of designs, and quite often having one or two CMS products under your belt will open up all sorts of added functionality to your sites that you couldn't easily offer before -- from the basics like updating content, to more cool features like event calendars, mini polls/surveys, slideshows/photo galleries etc. One other thing -- no matter what application you go with, give it a good, honest assessment of how easy it is for non-technical people to use. At the end of the day, it's only worth the time and effort if it's going to be used by the people who actually need it. Bottom line: go download the stuff and play! You'll never really know what works for you until you give it a try. Adrian *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Thanks Schalk! Please keep us informed? Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schalk Neethling Sent: Wednesday, 30 May, 2007 11:36 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Hey there All, This seems to be a huge problem on the web today. I am in the process of building a CMS that will be from the ground up built to standards compliant and accessible. Also, the big issue is to ensure that whatever the CMS outputs abides by the same rules. The project is being developed as an open source project so anyone that wishes to know more and want to join in and help in the building of the CMS is more then welcome. It is being hosted on code.google.com/p/alliedbridge Kind Regards Schalk Nick Roper wrote: > Hi Mark, > > Have you looked at Karova? > > www.karova.com > > It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based > solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so > it is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. > One thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not > available to install on your own server as far as I know. > > It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund > (not our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the > following URL if you want a look: > > http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk > > I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on > more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look. > > Cheers, > > Nick > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Hey there All, This seems to be a huge problem on the web today. I am in the process of building a CMS that will be from the ground up built to standards compliant and accessible. Also, the big issue is to ensure that whatever the CMS outputs abides by the same rules. The project is being developed as an open source project so anyone that wishes to know more and want to join in and help in the building of the CMS is more then welcome. It is being hosted on code.google.com/p/alliedbridge Kind Regards Schalk Nick Roper wrote: Hi Mark, Have you looked at Karova? www.karova.com It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so it is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. One thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not available to install on your own server as far as I know. It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund (not our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the following URL if you want a look: http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look. Cheers, Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Hi Mark, Have you looked at Karova? www.karova.com It is XML/XSLT based, so that may be an issue if you want a PHP based solution, but you can get in and edit the XSLTs and of course CSS, so it is pretty flexible and compliant. Not sure about the Protx support. One thing to be aware of is that it is a hosted solution, and not available to install on your own server as far as I know. It has been used for some large clients such as World Wildlife Fund (not our client unfortunately), and we used it to build a store at the following URL if you want a look: http://retailstore.haptic.co.uk I think they were working on a PHP-based version, and are working on more friendly URLs - so might be worth a look. Cheers, Nick -- Nick Roper partner logical elements Mark Hedley wrote: Keeping an eye on it myself. Just a shame their doesn't seem to be support for non-native Commerce yet. Hopefully development will grow for UK and other territories soon : ) Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tate Johnson Sent: 29 May 2007 01:47 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ? On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200 "Robin Gorry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have head very good things about silver stripe http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise and manipulate. Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly Flexible. MVC framework Scalable. From 1 page to a million Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant Modular. Easy to extend Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next release (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it. I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment, first time :) Cheers, Tate Johnson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
On Tue, 29 May 2007 01:51:16 am Kevin Ross wrote: > > Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... > > Regards, > Kevin. > > Have you tried looking at http://www.opensourcecms.com/? They have working installations of all Open Source CMS that you can try as user and administrator. Sit down with the client and try each one out. -- Regards, Steve Bathurst Computer Solutions URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 _ ... (0)> ... / / \ .. / / . ) .. V__/_ Linux Powered! Registered Linux User #355382 * "If you read the same things as others and say the same things they say, then you're perceived as intelligent. I'm a bit more independent and radical and consider intelligence the ability to think about matters on your own and ask a lot of skeptical questions to get at the real truth, not just what you're told it is." Apple's Inventor - Steve Wozniak 2006 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Keeping an eye on it myself. Just a shame their doesn't seem to be support for non-native Commerce yet. Hopefully development will grow for UK and other territories soon : ) Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tate Johnson Sent: 29 May 2007 01:47 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ? On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200 "Robin Gorry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have head very good things about silver stripe > http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ > This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to > cusomise and manipulate. > > Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly > Flexible. MVC framework > Scalable. From 1 page to a million > Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support > Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant > Modular. Easy to extend > Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site > Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) > Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next release (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it. I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment, first time :) Cheers, Tate Johnson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:50:15 +1200 "Robin Gorry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have head very good things about silver stripe > http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ > This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to > cusomise and manipulate. > > Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly > Flexible. MVC framework > Scalable. From 1 page to a million > Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support > Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant > Modular. Easy to extend > Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site > Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) > Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Silverstripe is fantastic. It's relatively new in relation to other CMS's, but it sure has a lot of potential. Primarily, it's developed by a NZ company and was originally a closed source, proprietary CMS. It's extremely flexible for developers/designers to create custom templates/sites. The community is growing larger, and the SS staff are quite helpful. They provide a forum and IRC channel for support and discussion. More importantly, it's easy for clients/content writers to create pages, the interface is quite intuitive. There are a few quirks here and there, no official blog/news module exists, but there is a guide/tutorial for how to create one. The next release (v2.1) will feature a tonne of improvements and those extra modules too. It's exciting times ahead for Silverstripe, and I certainly encourage you all to keep your eye on it. I'm actually developing a web site using Silverstripe at the moment, first time :) Cheers, Tate Johnson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
I liked what I saw of Silverstripe but unfortunately it has a certain PHP memory limit requirement which my web host wasn't willing to change so it ruled it out for me unless I wanted to change hosts. On Tue, 29 May 2007 08:50:15 +1000, Robin Gorry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have head very good things about silver stripe http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise and manipulate. Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly Flexible. MVC framework Scalable. From 1 page to a million Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant Modular. Easy to extend Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Robin I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/ Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites. Kevin Ross wrote: Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Bad thing is if you don't have access to PHP5 on all client systems with silverstripe you are either left out or forced to upgrade. Looks like a nice CMS never the less. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Gorry Sent: 28 May 2007 23:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ? I have head very good things about silver stripe http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise and manipulate. Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly Flexible. MVC framework Scalable. From 1 page to a million Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant Modular. Easy to extend Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Robin I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/ Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites. Kevin Ross wrote: > Hi: > > I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. > > I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to > manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web > designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management > systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really > do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers > handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their > own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web > Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking > about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... > Joomla, Wordpress... > > Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
I have head very good things about silver stripe http://www.silverstripe.com/home/ This is an open source cms writen in php which you are able to cusomise and manipulate. Simple. Intuitive and user-friendly Flexible. MVC framework Scalable. From 1 page to a million Fast. As responsive as a desktop app thanks to native Ajax support Standards Compliant. Fully XHTML compliant Modular. Easy to extend Template Freedom. No restrictions on the look and feel of your site Open source. It's free in every sense of the word! (BSD) Cross platform (Windows/Linux/Mac) and easy to install (PHP based Robin I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/ Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites. Kevin Ross wrote: > Hi: > > I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. > > I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to > manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web > designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management > systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really > do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers > handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their > own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web > Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking > about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... > Joomla, Wordpress... > > Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
I'm surprised no one has really commented on Joomla! I've read the feedback and reviews on Joomla and not only is it free and open source CMS, you're able to customise and add extensions as appropriate for your client. Check out the demo at: http://demo.joomla.org/ Joomla! 1.5 is suppose to be out soon but the beta version is available to play around with. This company (http://www.compassdesigns.net/) solely provides clients with Joomla! CMS sites. Kevin Ross wrote: Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
I was in your situation about six months ago and someone on the list recommended textpattern. The textpattern text editor "textdrive" is meant to be easy to learn-clients can do simple formatting to their content updates easily. I was able to train a client to use it in one sitting. Still if i had a client that is extremely illiterate i wouldn't bother building a site with a cms. -best kevin Kevin Ross wrote: Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
On Mon May 28 11:44 , 'Kevin Ross' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: > Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... I like MODx = http://www.modxcms.com/ It is intuitive and flexible. It is an excellent mid-range general purpose CMS (and, it has blog features). Sean -- Sean Fraser http://www.elementary-group-standards.com ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Pleasure. Let us all know how you get on. Regards, Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: 28 May 2007 19:44 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Thanks for your input. Regards, Kevin. On 5/28/07, Mark Hedley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Id recommend you look at: > > Drupal - http://www.drupal.org > > OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org > > TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com > > There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three > stick out. > > Mark Hedley > Web Development Manager > Mayborn Baby & Child Division > > > http://www.tommeetippee.com > > Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales > (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, > Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) > 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in > England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at > Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, > Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are > part of the Mayborn Group > > This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended > solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please > do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us > immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete > this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all > incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Kevin Ross > Sent: 28 May 2007 16:51 > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ? > > Hi: > > I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. > > I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to > manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web > designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management > systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really > do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers > handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their > own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web > Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking > about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... > Joomla, Wordpress... > > Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... > > Regards, > Kevin. > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Thanks for your input. Regards, Kevin. On 5/28/07, Mark Hedley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Id recommend you look at: Drupal - http://www.drupal.org OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three stick out. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: 28 May 2007 16:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Content Management issue ?
Id recommend you look at: Drupal - http://www.drupal.org OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org TradingEYE CMS - http://www.tradingeye.com There are a lot of other solutions out there but by far these three stick out. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby & Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England & Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ross Sent: 28 May 2007 16:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Content Management issue ? Hi: I have a question which has surfaced due to an upcoming requirement. I have built a web site for a client who now wants to be able to manage the site on her own. She is computer literate, but not a web designer, by any means. I am new to the idea of Content Management systems and am really trying to wrap my brain around what they really do and how to set one up. I guess I am wondering how other designers handle this type of issue? How do you setup clients to manage their own site so they are not having to take a detailed course in Web Design. I hope my concern is understood, as I have been thinking about this issue for a while and have investigated certain software... Joomla, Wordpress... Can anyone lend a hand? Thanks very much... Regards, Kevin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
