Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On 10 Jul 2007, at 04:20, Dean Matthews wrote: On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Not really, just chose the appropriate options (advanced...) when you try to validate a file. Yes I see, but how do you link a Valid CSS icon to an advanced search? Validate it, then copy/paste the URL (don't forget to convert ampersands to entities). Or see http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/html/validation.html#icon -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Shadow validation
Not sure about the 1.X series, but text shadow is supported in Safari 2.X - I have been using it for quite a while, and love it. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucien Stals Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 4:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Shadow validation Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. (Does Firefox? I can only think of Safari 3, only available as the WebKit until Leopard gets released). *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Hey dean, I am probaly wrong, but i think text-shadow is a CSS3 spec which might not be picked up by the validation On 7/10/07, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand what the W3C validator is objecting to here: Value Error : text-shadow Property text-shadow doesn't exist : #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px Offending CSS: h2, h3 { margin: 24px 0 0; font-size: 1.4em; text-shadow: #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px; color: #25447d; line-height: 1.4em; } Please excuse me if I'm incurably dense, Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Text-shadow's part of the CSS3 spec and not CSS 2.1 isn't it? So if you're validating against CSS 2.1, you'll get an error. On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:03:46 +1000, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand what the W3C validator is objecting to here: Value Error : text-shadow Property text-shadow doesn't exist : #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px Offending CSS: h2, h3 { margin: 24px 0 0; font-size: 1.4em; text-shadow: #7f7f7f 2px 2px 2px; color: #25447d; line-height: 1.4em; } Please excuse me if I'm incurably dense, Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 9, 2007, at 9:16 PM, Cameron Singe wrote: am probaly wrong, but i think text-shadow is a CSS3 spec which might not be picked up by the validation Nope, your right. I thought I was dense but now I think the W3C is just behind the curve ;-) Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Dean Matthews wrote: I thought I was dense but now I think the W3C is just behind the curve ;-) Not really, just chose the appropriate options (advanced...) when you try to validate a file. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. (Does Firefox? I can only think of Safari 3, only available as the WebKit until Leopard gets released). So even once you have it validating, practically nobody will be able to appreciated your fine work :( Lucien. -- Lucien Stals Multimedia/Web Developer Academic Development and Support Swinburne University of Technology PO Box 218 Hawthorn, 3122, Australia email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephone: +61 3 9214 4474 office: AD223 On 10/07/2007 at 1:20 pm, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:23 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Not really, just chose the appropriate options (advanced...) when you try to validate a file. Yes I see, but how do you link a Valid CSS icon to an advanced search? Thanks, Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Swinburne University of Technology CRICOS Provider Code: 00111D NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee. They may contain information that is privileged or protected by copyright. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution, printing, copying or use is strictly prohibited. The University does not warrant that this e-mail and any attachments are secure and there is also a risk that it may be corrupted in transmission. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses or defects before opening them. If you have received this transmission in error, please contact us on +61 3 9214 8000 and delete it immediately from your system. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. Please consider the environment before printing this email. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:Lucien Stals TEL;WORK:4474 ORG:;Academic Development and Support EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:[EMAIL PROTECTED] N:Stals;Lucien END:VCARD *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
Lucien Stals wrote: Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. (Does Firefox? I can only think of Safari 3, only available as the WebKit until Leopard gets released). So even once you have it validating, practically nobody will be able to appreciated your fine work :( Lucien. I don't think Firefox does. And if I recall correctly (call me on it if I am wrong) text-shadow was included in the CSS 2 specs, but it was dropped due to lack of support. Also, Dean, it is possible to link to a CSS validation with advanced options. Just copy and paste the entire URL out of the address bar when you validate it. For example: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ohlman.com%2Fstyle.csswarning=1profile=css3usermedium=all You can see that the profile option is equal to css3 in the above URL. HTH Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Shadow validation
On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:32 PM, Lucien Stals wrote: Regardless of whether it's valid or not, hardly any mainstream browsers currently support text shadows. Yes, well it really is a let down viewing a site in Safari or OmniWeb and then viewing it in IE or FF. I am finding quite a few clients impressed with the difference in the new Windows Safari and making the switch. Maybe Safari will become mainstream (especially with the success of iPhone ;) The more design can be put in the browser and removed from image files the better. On Jul 9, 2007, at 11:46 PM, Matthew Ohlman wrote: Just copy and paste the entire URL out of the address bar when you validate it. Thanks for the tip Matthew! Dean *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***