Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Some more testing
1.7.0 works just fine on his system.
1.8.0-rc1 crashes on both Samples and Online User Guide.  So it's like it can't 
access the network at all.Is 1.8.0-rc1 compile against a different Qt library 
perhaps?
There's not any network security software on his system the he know about or 
can find.
And curl works just fine.
Pearces-MacBook-Pro:~ gaff$ curl --head 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/samples/contents_1.8.jsonHTTP/1.1
 307 Temporary RedirectServer: nginxDate: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 21:59:22 
GMTContent-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8Connection: closeLocation: 
https://sourceforge.net/downloads
Pearces-MacBook-Pro:~ gaff$ 

de Mike W9MDB

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[wsjt-devel] Feature request or failure?

[Gary McDuffie]

Is it feasible to have the last frequency used remembered for Frequency 
Calibration mode also?  It currently is not and it would be nice to have it 
come back to the “favored” frequency when that configuration is selected, 
instead of 685.5Khz.  Yes, I can change it manually, yet another step.

Thank you.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

[Dan Malcolm]

Found the problem.  I caused it but not sure why.  In setting->Frequencies in 
the Station Information block, I had entered an offset of 14.074.000.  That 
should be left at zero.  Never the less, in a dialog box labeled “Station 
Information”, I didn’t think the offset would affect anything except what was 
reported to PSKReporter.  I knew there was something odd about the set 
frequency being double what was called for.

 

From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 12:33 PM
To: WSJT software development 
Cc: Black Michael 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

 

Have you rebuilt hamlib recently?

 

I'm running r8013 on an ANAN 100 and don't see this behavior.

 

And have you tried resetting the default frequencies?  Seems that cures all 
sort of strange frequency behavior.

 

File/Settings/Frequences and right-click in the Working Frequencies and select 
Reset.

 

de Mike W9MDB

 

 

  _  

From: Dan Malcolm  >
To: wsjtx-devel  > 
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

 

 

I am running WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8013 (and can run v1.8 RC1 and v1.7.1).  I have both 
an Apache ANAN 100D and a Yaesu FT-950.  This just started this morning and I 
don’t know the cause.  The problem actually started while running r8003.  If 
you look at the screen captures please look at them in pairs.  The “FT8 Config” 
pair go together, as does the “JT65 Config” pair.

 

I am at a loss to explain the cause.  While using the “FT8 Config” WSJT-X is 
only happy when it shows 14.074 in the frequency window, or any other frequency 
selected by WSJT-X.  With 14.074 in the WSJT-X frequency window,  PowerSDR is 
set at 28.148 Mhz.  With any other WSJT-X selected frequency, both WSJT-X and 
PowerSDR agree and are happy.  Only 14.074 shows an issue.  The problem is also 
only exhibited while using the Apache ANAN 100D.  If I switch to the FT-950 
everything works perfectly.

 

If I use the PowerSDR controls to set 14.074Mhz in PowerSDR,  WSJT-X shows all 
zero’s with a red background.

 

My first thought was something had happened to the PowerSDR database, so I 
rebuilt that from scratch.  No help.  Uninstalled and rebooted and then 
reinstalled PowerSDR.  No help.  Built a fresh this morning WSJT-X v1.7.1 
r8013.  No help.

 

I’m not yet done with the weirdness.  If I use the ANAN 100D and WSJT-X but 
switch to the JT65/9 Mode it all works just fine.  The one common item seems to 
be the “FT8 Config”.  I cloned the working “JT65-9  Config” and made it the 
“FT8 Config”.  The problem remains.  The only constant left is FT8 and 14.074 
while using the Kenwood TS-2000 radio model (which has always worked fine).  So 
I tried the TS-50S. No help. 

 

I’m out of ideas.  I’m not entirely sure at this point that the WSJTX beta 
software is at fault, but being beta it’s a place to start.

 

_

Dan Malcolm – K4SHQ

CFI/II

 

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get off the couch and actually do stuff.

 

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Bill Somerville]

On 07/08/2017 19:08, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x000104a3c425 0x10499d000 + 652325
1 com.apple.CFNetwork 0x7fff9004a232 
executionContextPerform(void*) + 225
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x7fff93da75b1 
__CFRUNLOOP_IS_CALLING_OUT_TO_A_SOURCE0_PERFORM_FUNCTION__ + 17

3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x7fff93d98c62 __CFRunLoopDoSources0 + 242
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x7fff93d983ef __CFRunLoopRun + 831
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x7fff93d97e75 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 309
6 org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x000104a3b835 0x10499d000 + 649269
7 org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x000104a3c681 
QNetworkProxyFactory::systemProxyForQuery(QNetworkProxyQuery const&) + 17

8 org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x000104a32383 0x10499d000 + 611203
9 org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x000104a34442 
QNetworkProxyFactory::proxyForQuery(QNetworkProxyQuery const&) + 50

10  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049cc48e 0x10499d000 + 193678
11  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049e9889 0x10499d000 + 313481
12  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049ee6f3 0x10499d000 + 333555
13  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049e63ce 0x10499d000 + 299982
14  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049e607b 0x10499d000 + 299131
15  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049cad98 
QNetworkAccessManager::createRequest(QNetworkAccessManager::Operation, 
QNetworkRequest const&, QIODevice*) + 1656
16  org.k1jt.wsjtx 0x00010074a6ef 
NetworkAccessManager::createRequest(QNetworkAccessManager::Operation, 
QNetworkRequest const&, QIODevice*) + 15
17  org.qt-project.QtNetwork 0x0001049c906e 
QNetworkAccessManager::head(QNetworkRequest const&) + 30

18  org.k1jt.wsjtx 0x000100849fea RemoteFile::download(QUrl) + 442
19  org.k1jt.wsjtx 0x000100849a3a RemoteFile::sync(QUrl const&, 
bool, bool) + 186

20  org.k1jt.wsjtx 0x000100843def Directory::refresh(bool) + 735


HI Mike,

looks like it is failing on the network request that does an HTTP HEAD 
query on the file to download, it also seems to be getting the little 
JSON file that describes the available downloads, it gets that when the 
window opens so it knows which sample files and directories to offer. It 
is basically doing the equivalent of this when it crashes:


$ curl --head 
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/samples/contents_1.8.json


The output from that command might be helpful although nothing is does 
should cause a SEGV.


73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

[Dan Malcolm]

I rebuilt HamLib about a week ago.  Right after the build changes were 
implemented.  I have reset the default frequencies 3 or 4 times today.  Since 
it has been a few days for HamLib3,  I’ll go ahead and build it again.

 

Dan – K4SHQ

 

From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 12:33 PM
To: WSJT software development 
Cc: Black Michael 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

 

Have you rebuilt hamlib recently?

 

I'm running r8013 on an ANAN 100 and don't see this behavior.

 

And have you tried resetting the default frequencies?  Seems that cures all 
sort of strange frequency behavior.

 

File/Settings/Frequences and right-click in the Working Frequencies and select 
Reset.

 

de Mike W9MDB

 

 

  _  

From: Dan Malcolm  >
To: wsjtx-devel  > 
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:26 PM
Subject: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

 

 

I am running WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8013 (and can run v1.8 RC1 and v1.7.1).  I have both 
an Apache ANAN 100D and a Yaesu FT-950.  This just started this morning and I 
don’t know the cause.  The problem actually started while running r8003.  If 
you look at the screen captures please look at them in pairs.  The “FT8 Config” 
pair go together, as does the “JT65 Config” pair.

 

I am at a loss to explain the cause.  While using the “FT8 Config” WSJT-X is 
only happy when it shows 14.074 in the frequency window, or any other frequency 
selected by WSJT-X.  With 14.074 in the WSJT-X frequency window,  PowerSDR is 
set at 28.148 Mhz.  With any other WSJT-X selected frequency, both WSJT-X and 
PowerSDR agree and are happy.  Only 14.074 shows an issue.  The problem is also 
only exhibited while using the Apache ANAN 100D.  If I switch to the FT-950 
everything works perfectly.

 

If I use the PowerSDR controls to set 14.074Mhz in PowerSDR,  WSJT-X shows all 
zero’s with a red background.

 

My first thought was something had happened to the PowerSDR database, so I 
rebuilt that from scratch.  No help.  Uninstalled and rebooted and then 
reinstalled PowerSDR.  No help.  Built a fresh this morning WSJT-X v1.7.1 
r8013.  No help.

 

I’m not yet done with the weirdness.  If I use the ANAN 100D and WSJT-X but 
switch to the JT65/9 Mode it all works just fine.  The one common item seems to 
be the “FT8 Config”.  I cloned the working “JT65-9  Config” and made it the 
“FT8 Config”.  The problem remains.  The only constant left is FT8 and 14.074 
while using the Kenwood TS-2000 radio model (which has always worked fine).  So 
I tried the TS-50S. No help. 

 

I’m out of ideas.  I’m not entirely sure at this point that the WSJTX beta 
software is at fault, but being beta it’s a place to start.

 

_

Dan Malcolm – K4SHQ

CFI/II

 

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get off the couch and actually do stuff.

 

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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Have you rebuilt hamlib recently?
I'm running r8013 on an ANAN 100 and don't see this behavior.
And have you tried resetting the default frequencies?  Seems that cures all 
sort of strange frequency behavior.
File/Settings/Frequences and right-click in the Working Frequencies and select 
Reset.
de Mike W9MDB 
  From: Dan Malcolm 
 To: wsjtx-devel  
 Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:26 PM
 Subject: [wsjt-devel] WSJTX Problem with FT8 Config
   
 I am running WSJT-X 1.7.1 r8013 (and can run v1.8 RC1 and v1.7.1).  I 
have both an Apache ANAN 100D and a Yaesu FT-950.  This just started this 
morning and I don’t know the cause.  The problem actually started while running 
r8003.  If you look at the screen captures please look at them in pairs.  The 
“FT8 Config” pair go together, as does the “JT65 Config” pair.  I am at a loss 
to explain the cause.  While using the “FT8 Config” WSJT-X is only happy when 
it shows 14.074 in the frequency window, or any other frequency selected by 
WSJT-X.  With 14.074 in the WSJT-X frequency window,  PowerSDR is set at 28.148 
Mhz.  With any other WSJT-X selected frequency, both WSJT-X and PowerSDR agree 
and are happy.  Only 14.074 shows an issue.  The problem is also only exhibited 
while using the Apache ANAN 100D.  If I switch to the FT-950 everything works 
perfectly.  If I use the PowerSDR controls to set 14.074Mhz in PowerSDR,  
WSJT-X shows all zero’s with a red background.  My first thought was something 
had happened to the PowerSDR database, so I rebuilt that from scratch.  No 
help.  Uninstalled and rebooted and then reinstalled PowerSDR.  No help.  Built 
a fresh this morning WSJT-X v1.7.1 r8013.  No help.  I’m not yet done with the 
weirdness.  If I use the ANAN 100D and WSJT-X but switch to the JT65/9 Mode it 
all works just fine.  The one common item seems to be the “FT8 Config”.  I 
cloned the working “JT65-9  Config” and made it the “FT8 Config”.  The problem 
remains.  The only constant left is FT8 and 14.074 while using the Kenwood 
TS-2000 radio model (which has always worked fine).  So I tried the TS-50S. No 
help.   I’m out of ideas.  I’m not entirely sure at this point that the WSJTX 
beta software is at fault, but being beta it’s a place to start.  
_Dan Malcolm – K4SHQCFI/II  Whoever said life is hard was 
wrong; life's only hard when you
get off the couch and actually do stuff.  
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

No proxy that I know of.  I'm waiting for him to respond so I can hook up with 
him again.  It was a side-note to another problem he was having with the FT-991 
showing split constantly.  The FT-991 patch didn't make it in to rc1 for that 
one.I compiled a new hamlib for him and running rigctld to fix that problem so 
he can run split mode now.
de Mike W9MDB
  From: Bill Somerville 
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash
   
 On 07/08/2017 18:15, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
  
 Let me try starting him with a new config and if that's the problem do you 
want the config file? 
  I'll get more info since it's not reproducible. 
  
 Hi Mike, I doubt it is anything to do with the preferences, more likely an 
Internet connectivity issue. Is a proxy server involved? 73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Bill Somerville]

On 07/08/2017 18:15, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Let me try starting him with a new config and if that's the problem do 
you want the config file?


I'll get more info since it's not reproducible.


Hi Mike,

I doubt it is anything to do with the preferences, more likely an 
Internet connectivity issue. Is a proxy server involved?


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Let me try starting him with a new config and if that's the problem do you want 
the config file?
I'll get more info since it's not reproducible.
de Mike W9MDB

  From: Bill Somerville 
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 12:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash
   
On 07/08/2017 17:50, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> Worked with another on Mac OSX and 1.8.0-rc1 and when he opens the 
> Samples downloads it crashes with a segfault.
>
> Hopefully this can be reproduced by another Mac user.
>
Hi Mike,

works for me.

What version of OS X or macOS?

Steps to reproduce?

Crash dump listing?

73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Bill Somerville]

On 07/08/2017 17:50, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Worked with another on Mac OSX and 1.8.0-rc1 and when he opens the 
Samples downloads it crashes with a segfault.


Hopefully this can be reproduced by another Mac user.


Hi Mike,

works for me.

What version of OS X or macOS?

Steps to reproduce?

Crash dump listing?

73
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[wsjt-devel] Mac OSX sample crash

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Worked with another on Mac OSX and 1.8.0-rc1 and when he opens the Samples 
downloads it crashes with a segfault.  
Hopefully this can be reproduced by another Mac user.
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[wsjt-devel] r8012 another FT8 quirk

[Richard Lamont]

1.8.0-rc2 r8012
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

After I finished a QSO, another station called me and used a
non-standard message in place of the standard 73. This completely messed
Auto Seq up. As well as replacing DxCall with RICHAR for my 73, it did
the same when attempting to log the QSO.

Rx Frequency window extract:
161745   0  0.2  799 ~  G4DYA F1DSZ JN06
161800  Tx   800 ~  F1DSZ G4DYA +00
161815  -2  0.2  800 ~  G4DYA F1DSZ R+00
161830  Tx   800 ~  F1DSZ G4DYA RRR
161845   4  0.2  801 ~  TU RICHAR 73
161900  Tx   801 ~  RICHAR G4DYA

.wav files available if needed.

73,
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[wsjt-devel] Call 1st...Call weaker

[Pino Zollo]

When in the pile-up I use to answer first to the weakest signal

it is more fun and avoids the rush to high powers.

...so please add "Call weaker" to the 1.8 for FT8.

Best 73

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[wsjt-devel] r8012 FT8 quirk

[Richard Lamont]

1.8.0-rc2 r8012
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS

After calling CQ and working a station in a straightforward QSO, my QSO
partner repeated his 73, by which time I'd re-enabled TX for the next
CQ. His second 73 appeared in the Band Activity Window but not the Rx
Frequency window. Extracts from the two windows below:

Band Activity Window:
155415   1  0.7 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY JO30
155415  -6  0.4 1697 ~  VK5PO DF4PN JO30
155415 -15  0.2 1704 ~  VK5PO OE3UKW JN88
155445   3  0.7 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY R+06
155445 -24  0.2 1704 ~  VK5PO OE3UKW JN88
155515   3  0.5 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY 73
155515  -1  0.2 1703 ~  VK5PO OE3UKW R-19
155545   1  0.5 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY 73 <- didn't appear

Rx Frequency Window:
155400  Tx  1200 ~  CQ G4DYA IO82
155415   1  0.7 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY JO30
155430  Tx  1200 ~  DL4MY G4DYA +01
155445   3  0.7 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY R+06
155500  Tx  1200 ~  DL4MY G4DYA RRR
155515   3  0.5 1201 ~  G4DYA DL4MY 73
155530  Tx  1200 ~  DL4MY G4DYA 73
155600  Tx  1200 ~  CQ G4DYA IO82

I have the relevant .wav files if required.

73,
Richard G4DYA

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Re: [wsjt-devel] compiling 1.8.0 rc2

[John]

Tnx Bill for quick reply.

 

73 John

 

Van: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Verzonden: Monday, August 7, 2017 17:31
Aan: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Onderwerp: Re: [wsjt-devel] compiling 1.8.0 rc2

 

On 07/08/2017 16:14, PA5JS wrote:

Compiling the wsjtx-1.8.0 rc2 I do see some warnings.

 

[ 12%] C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.26:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

  1

Warning: Unused variable 'deltaf' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.15:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

   1

Warning: Unused variable 'fd' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.32:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

1

Warning: Unused variable 'r' declared at (1)

 

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

 

 

   jt_c1=c1

   jt_c1=c1

   1

   1

Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) at (1)

Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) at (1)

 

and more all related to the F90 file.

 

It just finish the compiling without errors and I can install it without
problems.

Hi John,

they can be safely ignored. Some are not possible to remove due to Fortran
language specification limitations, others are harmless.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] compiling 1.8.0 rc2

[Bill Somerville]

On 07/08/2017 16:14, PA5JS wrote:


Compiling the wsjtx-1.8.0 rc2 I do see some warnings.

[ 12%] C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.26:

real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

   1

Warning: Unused variable 'deltaf' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.15:

real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

1

Warning: Unused variable 'fd' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.32:

real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

1

Warning: Unused variable 'r' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

   jt_c1=c1

   jt_c1=c1

   1

   1

Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) 
at (1)


Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) 
at (1)


and more all related to the F90 file.

It just finish the compiling without errors and I can install it 
without problems.



Hi John,

they can be safely ignored. Some are not possible to remove due to 
Fortran language specification limitations, others are harmless.


73
Bill
G4WJS.

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[wsjt-devel] compiling 1.8.0 rc2

[PA5JS]

Hi Bill,

 

Compiling the wsjtx-1.8.0 rc2 I do see some warnings.

 

[ 12%] C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.26:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

  1

Warning: Unused variable 'deltaf' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.15:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

   1

Warning: Unused variable 'fd' declared at (1)

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\fmeasure.f90:30.32:

 

  real*8 fd(NZ),deltaf(NZ),r(NZ)

1

Warning: Unused variable 'r' declared at (1)

 

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

C:\JTSDK\src\wsjtx-1.8\lib\packjt.f90:504.11:

 

 

   jt_c1=c1

   jt_c1=c1

   1

   1

Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) at (1)

Warning: CHARACTER expression will be truncated in assignment (6/12) at (1)

 

and more all related to the F90 file.

 

It just finish the compiling without errors and I can install it without
problems.

 

I have auto svn enabled.

 

Cheers

John PA5JS

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Re: [wsjt-devel] KG4 location fix

[Bill Somerville]

On 07/08/2017 01:46, Neil Zampella wrote:
The KG4 fix works great, as it does now show its USA for stateside 
callsigns, however, it still shows a 'bang' (!) next to U.S.A. (and 
I've worked USA before) and comes up on Windows as dark violet. 


Hi Neil,

it should be ok now.

73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Trying to compile on OS X for the first time

[C. Gary Rogers]

I'm good. Thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gary,
> 
> best bet is to create a new user account and login to that then restore the 
> files. You may need to install some software again or at least run the 
> applications once to set up. For example WSJT-X will not create the log file 
> directory until it has been run once for a user. Don't try and use your old 
> user home directory for the new user as it is pretty much trashed.
> 
> Using a new account keeps what's left of your old account untouched in case 
> there is something left there that you don't have a backup of.
> 
> I hope you really have everything important backed up.
> 
> For future reference, I strongly recommend Time Machine, it comes free with 
> masOS, all you need is an external drive or NAS. Backups are hourly snapshots 
> for last 24 hrs and daily/weekly/monthly behind that. It is simple and very 
> reliable unless you leave the drive disconnected for extended periods.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
>> On 07/08/2017 01:33, Charles Rogers wrote:
>> Important files
>> 
 On Aug 6, 2017, at 8:30 PM, Bill Somerville  wrote:
 
 On 07/08/2017 01:25, Charles Rogers wrote:
 Have them on a thumb drive
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> 
>>> is it an image backup of your home folder, a copy of your home folder, or 
>>> just copies of important files and folders?
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bill
>>> G4WJS.
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