Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[Rich - K1HTV]

OK Gary,

  You've got the job. :-) When will the report be ready. Then what's next? It 
doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where the number of FT8 users is 
goingUP, UP, UP!!!FT8 use will continue to expand and with it, the need 
for additional frequencies. Although it appears that you have doubts, I have no 
doubt that more frequencies will soon, if not already, be needed on some bands.


73,

Rich - K1HTV


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[wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

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A ‘separate small group’ wasn’t exactly my proposal, Take: I simply suggested 
that rather than simplyassumingorassertingthat there is an issue with 
overcrowding and pushing for something to be done, we should take a more 
scientific approach. 

What would help address the claim(hypothesis)that the HF FT8 allocations are 
“overcrowded”?   

For example, we could systematically collect, collate and analyze our ALL.TXT 
files for things such as:

* How many stations are using FT8 on each of the HF bands
* The proportion of FT8 overs that are repeats of previous overs, suggesting 
communications failures due to factors such as QRM, QRN, QSB etc.
* Trends i.e. how these factors vary over time

73

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Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[Ed Stallman]

Found it

Ed


On 3/24/2018 3:14 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:


Can this " 'power' and what is QRP" thread go to the Yahoo group??

This is for reports of BUGS or other ISSUES with the software, not how 
users OPERATE.


FWIW ... FT8 was NEVER a QRP mode, it is a WEAK SIGNAL mode as is the 
other WSJT-X modes.


From the first page of K1JT's website:

"/WSJT-X, WSJT, MAP65, /and/WSPR /are open-source programs designed 
for weak-signal digital communication by amateur radio.



Neil, KN3ILZ


On 3/24/2018 9:49 AM, Andras Bato wrote:
All in all: It's evident that some stations are using kW and 
directional antennas in FT8!

FT8 is NOT A QRP MODE ANY LONGER!
JT9 was the last one which favoured QRP stations and wire antennas.
Beside this, there is a tendency of using high power in certain 
stations mainly in Southern Europe!

GL de HA6NN
Andras

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:30 PM, ok2zo > wrote:


If there are strong signals, those close ALC and weak signals
have no chance then. If there is only one, I can use notch on my
FT950 and it helps a bit. But in many cases there is more than
one over +10dB, so it's difficult to catch some DX sometimes. In
some cases is possible turn the main knob up or down to cut part
of band with roofing filter, but some possible split callers are
lost then..



Odesláno z mého chytrého telefonu Samsung Galaxy.

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Od: Bill Barrett >
Datum: 24.03.18 14:13 (GMT+01:00)
Komu: WSJT software development >
Předmět: Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

Just say'n-
Strong propagation can make a low power station decode with a
high signal report.
If you retire the strong signals first you will hear the weak
signals under neigh them.
Finally, short of checking Hamspots [hopefully the station is
reporting to H.S.] how is an Op to know what his report is at the
FOX?
*
*
Just say'n

Bill W2PKY


On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:40 AM, Gary McDuffie
> wrote:



> On Mar 23, 2018, at 12:50 PM, rjai...@gmail.com
 wrote:
>
> How do you know we're running power?

I said nothing about running power.  I said strong signal,
wanting to have a way to only allow display or decode of
weaker signals, the level of which I determine and set.  This
is similar to the function available in DXpedition mode.

Gary - AG0N

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Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[Neil Zampella]

Can this " 'power' and what is QRP" thread go to the Yahoo group??

This is for reports of BUGS or other ISSUES with the software, not how 
users OPERATE.


FWIW ... FT8 was NEVER a QRP mode, it is a WEAK SIGNAL mode as is the 
other WSJT-X modes.


From the first page of K1JT's website:

"/WSJT-X, WSJT, MAP65, /and/WSPR /are open-source programs designed for 
weak-signal digital communication by amateur radio.



Neil, KN3ILZ


On 3/24/2018 9:49 AM, Andras Bato wrote:
All in all: It's evident that some stations are using kW and 
directional antennas in FT8!

FT8 is NOT A QRP MODE ANY LONGER!
JT9 was the last one which favoured QRP stations and wire antennas.
Beside this, there is a tendency of using high power in certain 
stations mainly in Southern Europe!

GL de HA6NN
Andras

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:30 PM, ok2zo > wrote:


If there are strong signals, those close ALC and weak signals have
no chance then. If there is only one, I can use notch on my FT950
and it helps a bit. But in many cases there is more than one over
+10dB, so it's difficult to catch some DX sometimes. In some cases
is possible turn the main knob up or down to cut part of band with
roofing filter, but some possible split callers are lost then..



Odesláno z mého chytrého telefonu Samsung Galaxy.

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Od: Bill Barrett >
Datum: 24.03.18 14:13 (GMT+01:00)
Komu: WSJT software development >
Předmět: Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

Just say'n-
Strong propagation can make a low power station decode with a high
signal report.
If you retire the strong signals first you will hear the weak
signals under neigh them.
Finally, short of checking Hamspots [hopefully the station is
reporting to H.S.] how is an Op to know what his report is at the FOX?
*
*
Just say'n

Bill W2PKY


On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:40 AM, Gary McDuffie > wrote:



> On Mar 23, 2018, at 12:50 PM, rjai...@gmail.com
 wrote:
>
> How do you know we're running power?

I said nothing about running power.  I said strong signal,
wanting to have a way to only allow display or decode of
weaker signals, the level of which I determine and set.  This
is similar to the function available in DXpedition mode.

Gary - AG0N

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Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[gary]

A 'separate small group' wasn't exactly my proposal, Take: I simply
suggested that rather than simply assuming or asserting that there is an
issue with overcrowding and pushing for something to be done, we should take
a more scientific approach.  

 

What would help address the claim (hypothesis) that the HF FT8 allocations
are "overcrowded"?   

 

For example, we could systematically collect, collate and analyze our
ALL.TXT files for things such as:

*   How many stations are using FT8 on each of the HF bands
*   The proportion of FT8 overs that are repeats of previous overs,
suggesting communications failures due to factors such as QRM, QRN, QSB etc.
*   Trends i.e. how these factors vary over time

 

73

Gary  ZL2iFB

 

From: Tsutsumi Takehiko  
Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2018 12:53 p.m.
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

 

Hi,

 

I support ZL2iFB Gary's proposal to setup a  separate small group to discuss
about default frequencies of wsjt-x from the productiveness.

 

Regards,

 

take

 

de JA5AEA

 

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Callsign highlighting

[Alex, VE3NEA]

Hi Saku,

Your logger knows a lot about the callsigns it displays. Once my changes are merged, cqrlog will be able to share some of this 
knowledge with WSJT-X so that the operator can see your colors directly in the Band Activity panel. You can use my 
TWsjtxListener class if you want, I hope it will compile in Lazarus without problems. I have added schema negotiation as Bill 
suggested, please re-download.


73 Alex VE3NEA



On 2018-03-24 06:20, Saku wrote:

Alex, VE3NEA kirjoitti 23.03.2018 klo 22:41:

Hello,

I have written some code that allows a UDP server, e.g., a logger, to tell WSJT-X what background color to use for each 
callsign in the Band Activity panel. This might be useful to those who chase various awards, if the logger assigns different 
colors to new IOTA groups, US counties, etc. The end result looks like on the attached screenshot. The .diff file is here:


Hi !


Quite same what cqrlog does on it's own CQ-monitor.

Colors of calls and locators vary (with up/lowcase ltrs) telling status 
compared to own log ( in Mysql database).

It also warns (keep cool =blue) about directed CQ if own continent compared to 
caller continent is same (I'm no DX) or if directed
call is not directed to own continent.

Cq's can be answered by double click of corresponding line. "Follow" property's line can also be double clicked and it uses 
1.9.0.rc3 new

feature that loads Std messages, but does not fire TX.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[Andras Bato]

All in all: It's evident that some stations are using kW and directional
antennas in FT8!
FT8 is NOT A QRP MODE ANY LONGER!
JT9 was the last one which favoured QRP stations and wire antennas.
Beside this, there is a tendency of using high power in certain stations
mainly in Southern Europe!
GL de HA6NN
Andras

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:30 PM, ok2zo  wrote:

> If there are strong signals, those close ALC and weak signals have no
> chance then. If there is only one, I can use notch on my FT950 and it helps
> a bit. But in many cases there is more than one over +10dB, so it's
> difficult to catch some DX sometimes. In some cases is possible turn the
> main knob up or down to cut part of band with roofing filter, but some
> possible split callers are lost then..
>
>
>
> Odesláno z mého chytrého telefonu Samsung Galaxy.
>
>  Původní zpráva 
> Od: Bill Barrett 
> Datum: 24.03.18 14:13 (GMT+01:00)
> Komu: WSJT software development 
> Předmět: Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?
>
> Just say'n-
>
> Strong propagation can make a low power station decode with a high signal
> report.
> If you retire the strong signals first you will hear the weak signals
> under neigh them.
> Finally, short of checking Hamspots [hopefully the station is reporting to
> H.S.] how is an Op to know what his report is at the FOX?
>
> Just say'n
>
> Bill W2PKY
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:40 AM, Gary McDuffie  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 23, 2018, at 12:50 PM, rjai...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > How do you know we're running power?
>>
>> I said nothing about running power.  I said strong signal, wanting to
>> have a way to only allow display or decode of weaker signals, the level of
>> which I determine and set.  This is similar to the function available in
>> DXpedition mode.
>>
>> Gary - AG0N
>> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 Frequencies?

[ok2zo]

If there are strong signals, those close ALC and weak signals have no chance 
then. If there is only one, I can use notch on my FT950 and it helps a bit. But 
in many cases there is more than one over +10dB, so it's difficult to catch 
some DX sometimes. In some cases is possible turn the main knob up or down to 
cut part of band with roofing filter, but some possible split callers are lost 
then..


Odesláno z mého chytrého telefonu Samsung Galaxy.
 Původní zpráva Od: Bill Barrett  Datum: 
24.03.18  14:13  (GMT+01:00) Komu: WSJT software development 
 Předmět: Re: [wsjt-devel] New FT8 
Frequencies? 
Just say'n- Strong propagation can make a low power station decode with a high 
signal report.If you retire the strong signals first you will hear the weak 
signals under neigh them.Finally, short of checking Hamspots [hopefully the 
station is reporting to H.S.] how is an Op to know what his report is at the 
FOX?
Just say'n
Bill W2PKY

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 12:40 AM, Gary McDuffie  wrote:




> On Mar 23, 2018, at 12:50 PM, rjai...@gmail.com wrote:

>

> How do you know we're running power?



I said nothing about running power.  I said strong signal, wanting to have a 
way to only allow display or decode of weaker signals, the level of which I 
determine and set.  This is similar to the function available in DXpedition 
mode.



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[wsjt-devel] SOLVED: Difficulties to get WSJT-X to accept UDP type 4 message from server

[F6BHK]

Good day,

My server works in sync with WSJT-X now.

My mistakes might be of interest for others, so I wish to share this 
conclusion with you.


First of all, I wish to thank David, Laurie VK3AMA, Brian and Bill G4WJS 
for their suggestions to my previous messages.


They gave me feedbacks that made me identify 4 mistakes. A brilliant 
demonstration of team value!


- First one was a misuse of QTime type: at one line of my code I had 
forgotten that QTime is NOT Unix time.


- Second a mix-up of hex code in utf8 where ascii was expected.

- Third a complete misunderstanding of this sentence: "the message 
exactly describes a prior decode" that lead me to substitute the CQ in 
the DECODE message by my call. I should not have modified the message text.


- Last was the socket sendto sending to the multicast address instead of 
the client IP address. I was expecting WSJT-X to listen for diagrams on 
the multicast group.



Thank a lot again for the efficient help.

Cheers

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Monitoring stops suddenly in 1.80 and 1.90 RC2

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

That sounds like your audio stream froze.Possible causes:
#1 RF in the shack.  #2 USB going to sleep -- this should only happen if PC is 
left unattended.
This is happening while your operating, right?  In that case RF is the likely 
culprit.  Does happen when you transmit?Lots of potential sources can cause 
this, USB cables, ethernet cables, computer cards.  We had one guy whose rotor 
caused it even though it wasn't plugged into anything but power.

de Mike W9MDB


 

On Saturday, March 24, 2018, 3:35:53 AM CDT, FRANK DB5FP  
wrote:  
 
 
> 

Hi Bill,

If the WSJT-X Rx level
> indicator is not showing a level *and* the waterfall stops scrolling,
> then it is fairly certain that the operating system is no longer
> delivering audio samples to the application.

The indicator is showing a level but it's not moving and the
progessbar(15sec.) is still moving. 

73s

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Callsign highlighting

[Steve Nance]

I too have an auxiliary app to keep up with what FT8 stations are needed for 
new ones.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LoHQNZf4_RaPzUXQ3A_yxZYJqpEX4eCfxgyFNdqDtG8/edit#heading=h.6jynaot9cbnq

 

73, Steve K5FR

 

From: Saku [mailto:oh...@sral.fi] 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 05:20 AM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Callsign highlighting

 

Alex, VE3NEA kirjoitti 23.03.2018 klo 22:41:

Hello, 

I have written some code that allows a UDP server, e.g., a logger, to tell 
WSJT-X what background color to use for each callsign in the Band Activity 
panel. This might be useful to those who chase various awards, if the logger 
assigns different colors to new IOTA groups, US counties, etc. The end result 
looks like on the attached screenshot. The .diff file is here: 

Hi !

 

Quite same what cqrlog does on it's own CQ-monitor.

Colors of calls and locators vary (with up/lowcase ltrs) telling status 
compared to own log ( in Mysql database).

It also warns (keep cool =blue) about directed CQ if own continent compared to 
caller continent is same (I'm no DX) or if directed
call is not directed to own continent.

Cq's can be answered by double click of corresponding line. "Follow" property's 
line can also be double clicked and it uses 1.9.0.rc3 new
feature that loads Std messages, but does not fire TX.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Callsign highlighting

[Saku]

Alex, VE3NEA kirjoitti 23.03.2018 klo 22:41:

Hello,

I have written some code that allows a UDP server, e.g., a logger, to 
tell WSJT-X what background color to use for each callsign in the Band 
Activity panel. This might be useful to those who chase various 
awards, if the logger assigns different colors to new IOTA groups, US 
counties, etc. The end result looks like on the attached screenshot. 
The .diff file is here:


Hi !


Quite same what cqrlog does on it's own CQ-monitor.

Colors of calls and locators vary (with up/lowcase ltrs) telling status 
compared to own log ( in Mysql database).


It also warns (keep cool =blue) about directed CQ if own continent 
compared to caller continent is same (I'm no DX) or if directed

call is not directed to own continent.

Cq's can be answered by double click of corresponding line. "Follow" 
property's line can also be double clicked and it uses 1.9.0.rc3 new

feature that loads Std messages, but does not fire TX.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Monitoring stops suddenly in 1.80 and 1.90 RC2

[FRANK DB5FP]

> 

Hi Bill,

If the WSJT-X Rx level
> indicator is not showing a level *and* the waterfall stops scrolling,
> then it is fairly certain that the operating system is no longer
> delivering audio samples to the application.

The indicator is showing a level but it's not moving and the
progessbar(15sec.) is still moving. 

73s

Frank 
DB5FP


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