Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines
Let's not remove capability due to a few minor problems. de Mike W9MDB From: Richard Stanley via wsjt-devel To: WSJT software development Cc: Richard Stanley Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines I did that even made videos and posted them on facebook even though Gregs instructions are more than adequate. I had a friend who started to distribute and I got grief for teaching him. I have even used teamviewer to setup JTSDK on peoples computers buut since the grief I have not done this. Helping is a double edged sword if one of the people you help then abuses the system you will get the blame. I think Greg should just remove the package build option and reduce the problem. Richard G7OED (ex M0CLZ) -Original Message- From: Eric Gruff Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 12:25 AM To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines Thanks, Greg. I think we all agree that we don't want to see the beta updates no longer made available. May I suggest to all the group users that if we see folks requesting install packages, we offer to help them set up the JTSDK environment on their machines, in the "teach a man to fish" spirit. They can then easily build the releases by typing the few magic phrases "build-hamlib3" and "build-wsjtx package". If they aren't willing, then they can wait for the official release. Those that are really motivated to get on FT8 will have to put out the relatively minimal effort. I had a few minor issues because I didn't follow directions, then started the install again, and it was very easy. I am happy to help if anyone needs it. I know some of you are Linux and Mac expert users, so I think we will have it covered. 73, Eric NC6K -Original Message- From: Greg Beam [mailto:ki7m...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:47 PM To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' Subject: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines Hello All, Appropriate Use == JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must respect the developers requests. I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being distributed by end-users. If this continues, I'll have no choice but to remove the package build feature from JTSDK. Joe has, on many occasions, requested that package installers not be re-distributed by anyone other than the development team. Please respect their wishes! For "Non-Developers" / "Testers" - (Setup && Usage) === For those of you "testing" Joe's software, a few things to note: * DO NOT distribute the packages you build for yourself! < nuff said > * Make sure, "before posting bugs", you are running the latest SVN revision * Setup JTSDK-QT as follows: - Open JTSDK-QT [1] - Set the following options; can be on one line separated by a " ; " semicolon, or you can set them individually. If individually, you do not need the " ; " : enable-separate ; disable-quiet ; disable-skipsvn ; enable-autosvn ; enable-clean ; enable-rcfg ; enable-qt55 You can, if desired, enable-autorun, which will launch the newly built version for you. * Check your options are set properly with [2]: list-options * Close, then reopen JTSDK-QT * Build Hamlib3: build-hamlib3 * Build the Release Install target (unless otherwise directed by a developer for troubleshooting): build-wsjtx rinstall You can build WSJT-X as often as you like, and should do; especially when new features have been added, or the development team is requesting broader use testing. * Build an installable package ( DO NO DISTRIBUTE THESE < nuff said again > ): * For most users, this is "not needed, nor desired for testing" build-wsjtx package Problems with JTSDK = If you have problems with JTSDK (not WSJT-X), email me off line, and we'll get it sorted out. @ ki...@yahoo.com @ ki7m...@gmail.com Or, post a bug on GitHub: Linux: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-nix/issues Windows: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-win/issues Documentation = For Windows, documentation is available online at: http://jtsdk-win.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ For Linux: /usr/share/doc/jtsdk/ If you find bugs in the Docs, report them to the appropriate GitHub location above. 73's Greg, KI7MT [1] main-menu.png [2] options.png -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _
Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines
Hi Richard I like having the option of a package build, as I can then transfer the installer to second machine within the household. 73 Charlie G3WDG > > I did that even made videos and posted them on facebook even though Gregs > instructions are more than adequate. > I had a friend who started to distribute and I got grief for teaching him. > I have even used teamviewer to setup JTSDK on peoples computers buut since > the grief I have not done this. > Helping is a double edged sword if one of the people you help then abuses > the system you will get the blame. > > I think Greg should just remove the package build option and reduce the > problem. > > Richard G7OED (ex M0CLZ) > > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Gruff > Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 12:25 AM > To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' > Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines > > Thanks, Greg. I think we all agree that we don't want to see the beta > updates no longer made available. > > May I suggest to all the group users that if we see folks requesting > install > packages, we offer to help them set up the JTSDK environment on their > machines, in the "teach a man to fish" spirit. They can then easily build > the releases by typing the few magic phrases "build-hamlib3" and > "build-wsjtx package". If they aren't willing, then they can wait for the > official release. Those that are really motivated to get on FT8 will have > to > put out the relatively minimal effort. > > I had a few minor issues because I didn't follow directions, then started > the install again, and it was very easy. I am happy to help if anyone > needs > it. I know some of you are Linux and Mac expert users, so I think we will > have it covered. > > 73, > > Eric NC6K > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Beam [mailto:ki7m...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:47 PM > To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT > Group' > Subject: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines > > Hello All, > > Appropriate Use > == > > JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute > it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must > respect > the developers requests. > > I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being > distributed by end-users. If this continues, I'll have no choice but to > remove the package build feature from JTSDK. Joe has, on many occasions, > requested that package installers not be re-distributed by anyone other > than > the development team. Please respect their wishes! > > > For "Non-Developers" / "Testers" - (Setup && Usage) > === > For those of you "testing" Joe's software, a few things to note: > > * DO NOT distribute the packages you build for yourself! < nuff said > > * Make sure, "before posting bugs", you are running the latest SVN > revision > * Setup JTSDK-QT as follows: > > - Open JTSDK-QT [1] > - Set the following options; can be on one line separated by a " ; " > semicolon, > or you can set them individually. If individually, you do not need the " ; > " > : > > enable-separate ; disable-quiet ; disable-skipsvn ; enable-autosvn ; > enable-clean ; enable-rcfg ; enable-qt55 > > You can, if desired, enable-autorun, which will launch the newly built > version for you. > > * Check your options are set properly with [2]: list-options > * Close, then reopen JTSDK-QT > * Build Hamlib3: build-hamlib3 > * Build the Release Install target (unless otherwise directed by a > developer > for troubleshooting): > > build-wsjtx rinstall > > You can build WSJT-X as often as you like, and should do; especially when > new features have been added, or the development team is requesting > broader > use testing. > > * Build an installable package ( DO NO DISTRIBUTE THESE < nuff said again > > > ): > * For most users, this is "not needed, nor desired for testing" > > build-wsjtx package > > > Problems with JTSDK > = > > If you have problems with JTSDK (not WSJT-X), email me off line, and we'll > get it sorted out. > > @ ki...@yahoo.com > @ ki7m...@gmail.com > > Or, post a bug on GitHub: > > Linux: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-nix/issues > Windows: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-win/issues > > > Documentation > = > > For Windows, documentation is available online at:
Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines
I did that even made videos and posted them on facebook even though Gregs instructions are more than adequate. I had a friend who started to distribute and I got grief for teaching him. I have even used teamviewer to setup JTSDK on peoples computers buut since the grief I have not done this. Helping is a double edged sword if one of the people you help then abuses the system you will get the blame. I think Greg should just remove the package build option and reduce the problem. Richard G7OED (ex M0CLZ) -Original Message- From: Eric Gruff Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 12:25 AM To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines Thanks, Greg. I think we all agree that we don't want to see the beta updates no longer made available. May I suggest to all the group users that if we see folks requesting install packages, we offer to help them set up the JTSDK environment on their machines, in the "teach a man to fish" spirit. They can then easily build the releases by typing the few magic phrases "build-hamlib3" and "build-wsjtx package". If they aren't willing, then they can wait for the official release. Those that are really motivated to get on FT8 will have to put out the relatively minimal effort. I had a few minor issues because I didn't follow directions, then started the install again, and it was very easy. I am happy to help if anyone needs it. I know some of you are Linux and Mac expert users, so I think we will have it covered. 73, Eric NC6K -Original Message- From: Greg Beam [mailto:ki7m...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:47 PM To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' Subject: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines Hello All, Appropriate Use == JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must respect the developers requests. I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being distributed by end-users. If this continues, I'll have no choice but to remove the package build feature from JTSDK. Joe has, on many occasions, requested that package installers not be re-distributed by anyone other than the development team. Please respect their wishes! For "Non-Developers" / "Testers" - (Setup && Usage) === For those of you "testing" Joe's software, a few things to note: * DO NOT distribute the packages you build for yourself! < nuff said > * Make sure, "before posting bugs", you are running the latest SVN revision * Setup JTSDK-QT as follows: - Open JTSDK-QT [1] - Set the following options; can be on one line separated by a " ; " semicolon, or you can set them individually. If individually, you do not need the " ; " : enable-separate ; disable-quiet ; disable-skipsvn ; enable-autosvn ; enable-clean ; enable-rcfg ; enable-qt55 You can, if desired, enable-autorun, which will launch the newly built version for you. * Check your options are set properly with [2]: list-options * Close, then reopen JTSDK-QT * Build Hamlib3: build-hamlib3 * Build the Release Install target (unless otherwise directed by a developer for troubleshooting): build-wsjtx rinstall You can build WSJT-X as often as you like, and should do; especially when new features have been added, or the development team is requesting broader use testing. * Build an installable package ( DO NO DISTRIBUTE THESE < nuff said again > ): * For most users, this is "not needed, nor desired for testing" build-wsjtx package Problems with JTSDK = If you have problems with JTSDK (not WSJT-X), email me off line, and we'll get it sorted out. @ ki...@yahoo.com @ ki7m...@gmail.com Or, post a bug on GitHub: Linux: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-nix/issues Windows: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-win/issues Documentation = For Windows, documentation is available online at: http://jtsdk-win.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ For Linux: /usr/share/doc/jtsdk/ If you find bugs in the Docs, report them to the appropriate GitHub location above. 73's Greg, KI7MT [1] main-menu.png [2] options.png -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ---
Re: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines
Thanks, Greg. I think we all agree that we don't want to see the beta updates no longer made available. May I suggest to all the group users that if we see folks requesting install packages, we offer to help them set up the JTSDK environment on their machines, in the "teach a man to fish" spirit. They can then easily build the releases by typing the few magic phrases "build-hamlib3" and "build-wsjtx package". If they aren't willing, then they can wait for the official release. Those that are really motivated to get on FT8 will have to put out the relatively minimal effort. I had a few minor issues because I didn't follow directions, then started the install again, and it was very easy. I am happy to help if anyone needs it. I know some of you are Linux and Mac expert users, so I think we will have it covered. 73, Eric NC6K -Original Message- From: Greg Beam [mailto:ki7m...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 2, 2017 3:47 PM To: 'WSJT software development' ; 'WSJT Group' Subject: [wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines Hello All, Appropriate Use == JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must respect the developers requests. I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being distributed by end-users. If this continues, I'll have no choice but to remove the package build feature from JTSDK. Joe has, on many occasions, requested that package installers not be re-distributed by anyone other than the development team. Please respect their wishes! For "Non-Developers" / "Testers" - (Setup && Usage) === For those of you "testing" Joe's software, a few things to note: * DO NOT distribute the packages you build for yourself! < nuff said > * Make sure, "before posting bugs", you are running the latest SVN revision * Setup JTSDK-QT as follows: - Open JTSDK-QT [1] - Set the following options; can be on one line separated by a " ; " semicolon, or you can set them individually. If individually, you do not need the " ; " : enable-separate ; disable-quiet ; disable-skipsvn ; enable-autosvn ; enable-clean ; enable-rcfg ; enable-qt55 You can, if desired, enable-autorun, which will launch the newly built version for you. * Check your options are set properly with [2]: list-options * Close, then reopen JTSDK-QT * Build Hamlib3: build-hamlib3 * Build the Release Install target (unless otherwise directed by a developer for troubleshooting): build-wsjtx rinstall You can build WSJT-X as often as you like, and should do; especially when new features have been added, or the development team is requesting broader use testing. * Build an installable package ( DO NO DISTRIBUTE THESE < nuff said again > ): * For most users, this is "not needed, nor desired for testing" build-wsjtx package Problems with JTSDK = If you have problems with JTSDK (not WSJT-X), email me off line, and we'll get it sorted out. @ ki...@yahoo.com @ ki7m...@gmail.com Or, post a bug on GitHub: Linux: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-nix/issues Windows: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-win/issues Documentation = For Windows, documentation is available online at: http://jtsdk-win.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ For Linux: /usr/share/doc/jtsdk/ If you find bugs in the Docs, report them to the appropriate GitHub location above. 73's Greg, KI7MT [1] main-menu.png [2] options.png -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] JTSDK Usage and Policy Guidelines
Hello All, Appropriate Use == JTSDK exists to help users build and "test" Joe's software, not distribute it. We all want these fantastic applications, but, we "users" must respect the developers requests. I've received several reports of WSJTX packages built with JTSDK being distributed by end-users. If this continues, I'll have no choice but to remove the package build feature from JTSDK. Joe has, on many occasions, requested that package installers not be re-distributed by anyone other than the development team. Please respect their wishes! For "Non-Developers" / "Testers" - (Setup && Usage) === For those of you "testing" Joe's software, a few things to note: * DO NOT distribute the packages you build for yourself! < nuff said > * Make sure, "before posting bugs", you are running the latest SVN revision * Setup JTSDK-QT as follows: - Open JTSDK-QT [1] - Set the following options; can be on one line separated by a " ; " semicolon, or you can set them individually. If individually, you do not need the " ; " : enable-separate ; disable-quiet ; disable-skipsvn ; enable-autosvn ; enable-clean ; enable-rcfg ; enable-qt55 You can, if desired, enable-autorun, which will launch the newly built version for you. * Check your options are set properly with [2]: list-options * Close, then reopen JTSDK-QT * Build Hamlib3: build-hamlib3 * Build the Release Install target (unless otherwise directed by a developer for troubleshooting): build-wsjtx rinstall You can build WSJT-X as often as you like, and should do; especially when new features have been added, or the development team is requesting broader use testing. * Build an installable package ( DO NO DISTRIBUTE THESE < nuff said again > ): * For most users, this is "not needed, nor desired for testing" build-wsjtx package Problems with JTSDK = If you have problems with JTSDK (not WSJT-X), email me off line, and we'll get it sorted out. @ ki...@yahoo.com @ ki7m...@gmail.com Or, post a bug on GitHub: Linux: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-nix/issues Windows: https://github.com/KI7MT/jtsdk-win/issues Documentation = For Windows, documentation is available online at: http://jtsdk-win.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ For Linux: /usr/share/doc/jtsdk/ If you find bugs in the Docs, report them to the appropriate GitHub location above. 73's Greg, KI7MT [1] main-menu.png [2] options.png -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel