Re: [wsjt-devel] Strange non QSO
I have gotten calls like that also. Usually it is remote or portable, crazy grid and very weak. I chalk it up to a rare mis-code. Ron K2PSD Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:09 PM, bergeracb--- via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > > I am attaching two photo files from a "QSO" I did not "really" have last > night to see if anyone can make sense of what happened. I had just installed > "Grid tracker" and was playing around with the controls. When I tried to > contact J69BB on FT8 I got the results shown in photo 1. A signal from a > station with a unknown Prefix from a Grid somewhere in the south eastern > Pacific Ocean, with signal reports sent and received, plus the Grid-square. > After WSJT-X again called J69BB automatically, it then sent a confirmation > and 73 to 1R6KOQ/R. FT8 then went on like nothing had happened. > Photo 2 is the Grid-tracker display panel a few minutes afterward. This is > not very important to the community, but I sure would like to know what > happened. (maybe I am the first person to work a brand new volcanic island in > the Pacific. HI, HI.) > 73 Al, N4AB > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
I believe you have to go to the URL listed at the bottom of the emails, and select the link on that page that says 'Click here to unsubscribe ... " Neil, KN3ILZ On 12/25/2018 2:59 PM, Rick Lindquist WW1ME/m wrote: How does one unsubscribe from this list? I thought I had followed the right procedure, but I am still getting emails. Thanks! Rick, WW1ME Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Dan Malcolm Date: 12/25/18 2:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'WSJT software development' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso I understand Serge, but one way to find out is to see if you are in his logbook via QRZ. I agree it's difficult just looking at the QSO text, and I appreciate Bill's comment. I also agree with Bill that logging the QSO makes the most sense. __ Dan - K4SHQ -Original Message- From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:29 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso Dan Thank you for your answer, however my questioning is on the software side, not on the call itself. With the following messages from WSJT-X, I feel - I can be wrong, but - I feel that I cannot decide whether the QSO is completed or not completed. See, the last message I read from the 4X station is not clear as to whether this message is for me or for someone else. 73 Serge On 25/12/2018 17:14, Dan Malcolm wrote: > A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log > on that page. > > __ > Dan - K4SHQ > > -Original Message- > From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM > To: WSJT software development > Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso > > Merry Xmas to all! > > The following QSO seems to me "strange": > > 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY > 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 > 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 > > in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I > would have expected <...> being instead. > > 73 > > Serge > > -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
How does one unsubscribe from this list? I thought I had followed the right procedure, but I am still getting emails. Thanks! Rick, WW1ME Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Dan Malcolm Date: 12/25/18 2:24 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'WSJT software development' Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso I understand Serge, but one way to find out is to see if you are in his logbook via QRZ. I agree it's difficult just looking at the QSO text, and I appreciate Bill's comment. I also agree with Bill that logging the QSO makes the most sense. __ Dan - K4SHQ -Original Message- From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:29 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso Dan Thank you for your answer, however my questioning is on the software side, not on the call itself. With the following messages from WSJT-X, I feel - I can be wrong, but - I feel that I cannot decide whether the QSO is completed or not completed. See, the last message I read from the 4X station is not clear as to whether this message is for me or for someone else. 73 Serge On 25/12/2018 17:14, Dan Malcolm wrote: > A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log > on that page. > > __ > Dan - K4SHQ > > -Original Message- > From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM > To: WSJT software development > Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso > > Merry Xmas to all! > > The following QSO seems to me "strange": > > 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY > 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 > 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 > > in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I > would have expected <...> being instead. > > 73 > > Serge > > -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
I understand Serge, but one way to find out is to see if you are in his logbook via QRZ. I agree it's difficult just looking at the QSO text, and I appreciate Bill's comment. I also agree with Bill that logging the QSO makes the most sense. __ Dan - K4SHQ -Original Message- From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:29 AM To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso Dan Thank you for your answer, however my questioning is on the software side, not on the call itself. With the following messages from WSJT-X, I feel - I can be wrong, but - I feel that I cannot decide whether the QSO is completed or not completed. See, the last message I read from the 4X station is not clear as to whether this message is for me or for someone else. 73 Serge On 25/12/2018 17:14, Dan Malcolm wrote: > A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log > on that page. > > __ > Dan - K4SHQ > > -Original Message- > From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM > To: WSJT software development > Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso > > Merry Xmas to all! > > The following QSO seems to me "strange": > > 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY > 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK > 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 > 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 > 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 > 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 > 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 > > in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I > would have expected <...> being instead. > > 73 > > Serge > > -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
Thanks Bill. Understand. Merry Xmas Cheers Serge On 25/12/2018 17:23, Bill Somerville wrote: On 25/12/2018 15:29, F6BHK wrote: 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would have expected <...> being instead. Hi Serge, this is another variant on the known issue with hash collisions in WSJT-X v2.0.0. In this case the first message you receive with your callsign hashed: 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 is not printed correctly because WSJT-X has not stored your own callsign in the relevant hash table (not a hash collision but a missing hash code mapping to you callsign). Although it is not clear you can be quite certain that 4X19HNY has copied your call correctly since it was sent in full during the QSO in the message: 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 I would log the QSO as it almost 100% certain that the sign off message sent by 4X19HNY was " 4X19HNY RR73" and it will be in his log. This issue is resolved for the next release of WSJT-X. 73 & Merry Christmas Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
Dan Thank you for your answer, however my questioning is on the software side, not on the call itself. With the following messages from WSJT-X, I feel - I can be wrong, but - I feel that I cannot decide whether the QSO is completed or not completed. See, the last message I read from the 4X station is not clear as to whether this message is for me or for someone else. 73 Serge On 25/12/2018 17:14, Dan Malcolm wrote: A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log on that page. __ Dan - K4SHQ -Original Message- From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso Merry Xmas to all! The following QSO seems to me "strange": 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would have expected <...> being instead. 73 Serge -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
On 25/12/2018 15:29, F6BHK wrote: 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would have expected <...> being instead. Hi Serge, this is another variant on the known issue with hash collisions in WSJT-X v2.0.0. In this case the first message you receive with your callsign hashed: 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 is not printed correctly because WSJT-X has not stored your own callsign in the relevant hash table (not a hash collision but a missing hash code mapping to you callsign). Although it is not clear you can be quite certain that 4X19HNY has copied your call correctly since it was sent in full during the QSO in the message: 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 I would log the QSO as it almost 100% certain that the sign off message sent by 4X19HNY was " 4X19HNY RR73" and it will be in his log. This issue is resolved for the next release of WSJT-X. 73 & Merry Christmas Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
A search of QRZ found 4X19HNY and there is a pointer to their live log on that page. __ Dan - K4SHQ -Original Message- From: F6BHK [mailto:f6...@f6bhk.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:30 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: [wsjt-devel] strange non-qso Merry Xmas to all! The following QSO seems to me "strange": 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would have expected <...> being instead. 73 Serge -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] strange non-qso
Merry Xmas to all! The following QSO seems to me "strange": 151630 -17 0.4 1694 ~ CQ 4X19HNY 151646 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151715 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK 151730 -17 0.4 1694 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151745 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151815 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-17 151800 -22 0.4 1693 ~ F6BHK <4X19HNY> -22 151816 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151845 Tx 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> F6BHK R-22 151900 -19 0.3 1693 ~ <...> 4X19HNY RR73 151915 -16 1.1 1694 ~ <4X19HNY> SQ2BNM -15 in the sense I am not able to be sure 4X19HNY has got my report. I would have expected <...> being instead. 73 Serge -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
