Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient
Hi Heinz, Sorry for replying so late cause was trying to find my way back to this mailing thing. Not so good at it :| . Anyway the SSH connection to the server whether its local or internet its ok, meaning that it happenins very quickly. Its what happens afterwards. If you want I can setup an account for you to login and try it out yourself if you want and can use it to test out. Sound for local lan is really good. Not for internet. Printing is ok but sometimes have to print two times to get it to print. So if you want to try out please let me know. I can set a complete desktop for you or just an account, upto you, but will be virtualized. Tks Eric ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: "cougarmaster" > Gesendet: 16.01.10 19:55:22 > An: x2go-dev@lists.berlios.de > Betreff: Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient Hello, > Hi Paul, >The problem is that I find x2go whether it is local or internel takes a bit > more time for it to authenticate than nxclient which is more instantaneous. I have a gotten a lot of feedback, that normally a session can be faster started and resumed - but x2go has an completly different handshake. A used compinent can be responsible for the delay. What you really should check, is that the name resolution is working. You should be able to connect to the server over SSH without delay. >There is also a windows 2003 running there where rdp is running extremely > smooth with about 3 people accessing it at any one time. The bandwitdh on it > is > always whether login in or using is below 200k. X2go or nxclient always spikes > up above 500-800K when just login in. When using it jumps up and down between > 200k - 2Mbps. I get this also not only in windows also when the client is > Ubuntu. RDP an NX are working completly diffferent. NX needs to fill up the bitmap cache whenever you are using a screenobject for the first time. This will increase the CPU usage on the server, because the bitmaps are cached and it will increase the bandwith consumption, because those pictures need to be delivered to the client. But the whole user feedback of input devices and the x-server ressources are working local. So it is very typical for NX to have a changing bandwith usage. Please keep in mind, that x2go is not developed to be an NX replacement. There are various Open Source clients and even servers which are completly compatible to NX. The idea of x2go was to develop a complete open Terminal Server by using as much as possible already existing native linux projects. For a typical connection time to a x2go server using WLAN you can watch our youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxEsngE6qjc If you can give us more information, we'll really try to help you. It would be interesting to have an look on the ssh connection (how long does it take to establish the connection) and what services you are using (printing, file sharing, sound - > which sound system). best regards, Heinz WEB.DE MillionenKlick: Kostenlos tippen, täglich 1 Million gewinnen! http://produkte.web.de/go/07/ ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient
Hi all, Sorry forgot to mention the version of the x2go client is 3.01-4 for windows and 3.01-8 for linux. Its just I want to convert my clients to use linux as opposed to windows because of licensing issues and they are basically using basic stuff and no propriety applications. Tks again. Eric ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient
Paul Menzel writes: > > Dear Eric, > > Am Samstag, den 16.01.2010, 07:25 + schrieb cougarmaster: > > […] > > > Ok to ask a proper question is that for login and working > > in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and responsive than > > x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for newer > > versions? > > I have no clue why it would behave this way, but could you please give > more details like what versions of both programs did you use, what MS > Windows versions, maybe some timings (for example for login or > responsiveness) so that others can compare that with their setup? > > Thanks, > > Paul > > PS: Since you seem to be new to a mailing list, I recommend to read the > netiquette [1], if you do not know it already. Welcome! > > [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette > > > ___ > X2go-dev mailing list > x2go-...@... > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev > Hi Paul, The problem is that I find x2go whether it is local or internel takes a bit more time for it to authenticate than nxclient which is more instantaneous. Also another thing I see is that the bandwitdh consumption is quite high on x2go. The windows doesnt matter whether it is windows 2000 or windows xp same results. Also I am running the Ubuntu desktop on a debian XEN 3.2 server. I assigned 1GB ram to the Ubuntu 9.10 domU. The pfsense firewall is also a domU on the same server. Also a trixbox VoIP system domU with a pci 4 port telephony card. The server hardware is :- Phenon II X4 925 8GB RAM DDR II 800 Mhz 500GB x 2 4 GbE nics There is also a windows 2003 running there where rdp is running extremely smooth with about 3 people accessing it at any one time. The bandwitdh on it is always whether login in or using is below 200k. X2go or nxclient always spikes up above 500-800K when just login in. When using it jumps up and down between 200k - 2Mbps. I get this also not only in windows also when the client is Ubuntu. ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 16:35 +, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: > - "John A. Sullivan III" wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 07:25 +, cougarmaster wrote: > > > Hi, > > > This seems better. Ok to ask a proper question is that for login > > and working > > > in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and > > responsive than > > > x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for > > newer > > > versions? > > Interesting. Our initial testing is showing X2Go much faster than > > NoMachine on Linux. Older versions of X2Go on Windows proved to be > > unusably slow for us. I think this had more to do with Xming than > > X2Go. > > That is why we moved away from X2Go until the release of 3.0.1-4. > > That > > appears to be performing satisfactorily although we are just starting > > our Windows testing. I assume the basic problem is the performance > > of > > the X server on Windows. > > > > Does anyone have experience on accelerating the X Server under > > Windows > > or faster alternatives to XMing? Thanks - John > > > > Some potential tweaks are available on here :- > http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php > > I wonder how well Cygwin XServer performs ? > My ignorant understanding is that Cygwin is slower - John ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed
- "John A. Sullivan III" wrote: > On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 07:25 +, cougarmaster wrote: > > Hi, > > This seems better. Ok to ask a proper question is that for login > and working > > in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and > responsive than > > x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for > newer > > versions? > Interesting. Our initial testing is showing X2Go much faster than > NoMachine on Linux. Older versions of X2Go on Windows proved to be > unusably slow for us. I think this had more to do with Xming than > X2Go. > That is why we moved away from X2Go until the release of 3.0.1-4. > That > appears to be performing satisfactorily although we are just starting > our Windows testing. I assume the basic problem is the performance > of > the X server on Windows. > > Does anyone have experience on accelerating the X Server under > Windows > or faster alternatives to XMing? Thanks - John > Some potential tweaks are available on here :- http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/trouble.php I wonder how well Cygwin XServer performs ? -- Thanks, Phil ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed
On Sat, 2010-01-16 at 07:25 +, cougarmaster wrote: > Hi, > This seems better. Ok to ask a proper question is that for login and working > in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and responsive than > x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for newer > versions? Interesting. Our initial testing is showing X2Go much faster than NoMachine on Linux. Older versions of X2Go on Windows proved to be unusably slow for us. I think this had more to do with Xming than X2Go. That is why we moved away from X2Go until the release of 3.0.1-4. That appears to be performing satisfactorily although we are just starting our Windows testing. I assume the basic problem is the performance of the X server on Windows. Does anyone have experience on accelerating the X Server under Windows or faster alternatives to XMing? Thanks - John ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2go-dev] Speed of X2go slower than of NXclient
Dear Eric, Am Samstag, den 16.01.2010, 07:25 + schrieb cougarmaster: […] > Ok to ask a proper question is that for login and working > in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and responsive than > x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for newer > versions? I have no clue why it would behave this way, but could you please give more details like what versions of both programs did you use, what MS Windows versions, maybe some timings (for example for login or responsiveness) so that others can compare that with their setup? Thanks, Paul PS: Since you seem to be new to a mailing list, I recommend to read the netiquette [1], if you do not know it already. Welcome! [1] http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_mailing_list_netiquette signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
[X2go-dev] Speed
Hi, This seems better. Ok to ask a proper question is that for login and working in the remote desktop, nxclient seems to be much quicker and responsive than x2go client in windows. Is there a reason or still need to wait for newer versions? Tks, Eric ___ X2go-dev mailing list X2go-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
