Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-24 Thread Eric Kolotyluk
OK, I brought up Ubuntu 15.04 on an Amazon EC2 instance, installed x2go 
and MATE, and everything works.


The performance is really quite decent -- I am impressed.

For people like me who are terminally challenged, it is very sweet to 
have a desktop in the cloud.


Cheers, Eric

On 2015-04-23 1:23 PM, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:
OK, I had to install MATE, and was able to get it working. None of the 
others worked, including KDE.


Thanks for the tip, much appreciated.

At this point, I would suggest adding to your documentation that for 
Ubuntu 15.04 people use http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download and 
follow the steps for Ubuntu 14.04 with "Ubuntu MATE"


My next step is to see if I can get this working on an EC2 instance.

Cheers, Eric

On 2015-04-23 12:51 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:


 For now you need to use a non-compositing Desktop such as Mate 
or KDE,
compositing desktops don't presently work with X2Go.  My 
understanding is

that work is currently being done to remedy this.

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:


Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:47:49 -0700
From: Eric Kolotyluk 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

Installed x2go server on Ubuntu 15.04 (running under VMWare 
Workstation on Windows 8.1)


Installed x2go client on Windows 8.1

I am now able to connect to Ubuntu, but all I get is a blank x2go 
window. My profile has the Unity desktop manager selected, but 
nothing happens and I have to force the connection closed.


When I do a 'ps aux | grep x2go" I can see lots of stuff running, 
but Unity is not running in my x2go window. I can see the following 
running


x2gocleansessions
x2goruncommand
x2goagent

So far my experience is, like every other X/Windows I have ever 
used, it is a royal pain in the  to get things configured and 
working.


Where do I go from here?

- Eric
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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Robert Dinse


 One of the Gnome-3 fallback modes (I don't remember which) does work, I've 
had it working here, but the menu you get no longer has a System menu on the 
top bar, so I still prefer Mate.  I don't remember what I had to put on the 
session command or install to get it to work but I did have it working at one 
point.


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On Fri, 24 Apr 2015, Mihai Moldovan wrote:


Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:49:53 +0200
From: Mihai Moldovan 
To: Robert Dinse 
Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

On 24.04.2015 01:43 AM, Robert Dinse wrote:


  Fun...  There is no fall back mode like gnome?  I haven't messed with it
yet, I really don't like KDE anyway but maintain it on my platforms for my
customers.


IIRC no... At least none not requiring a newer GLX extension. I guess there is 
a software rendering fallback, but this still fails with NX. GNOME 3 
Flashback/Fallback don't work either, so X2Go is sadly currently screwed when 
it comes to these DE's...



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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Mihai Moldovan
On 24.04.2015 01:43 AM, Robert Dinse wrote:
> 
>   Fun...  There is no fall back mode like gnome?  I haven't messed with it
> yet, I really don't like KDE anyway but maintain it on my platforms for my
> customers.

IIRC no... At least none not requiring a newer GLX extension. I guess there is 
a software rendering fallback, but this still fails with NX. GNOME 3 
Flashback/Fallback don't work either, so X2Go is sadly currently screwed when 
it comes to these DE's...



Mihai



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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Robert Dinse


 Fun...  There is no fall back mode like gnome?  I haven't messed with it
yet, I really don't like KDE anyway but maintain it on my platforms for my
customers.

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2015, Mihai Moldovan wrote:


Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 01:41:20 +0200
From: Mihai Moldovan 
To: Robert Dinse ,
Eric Kolotyluk 
Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

On 23.04.2015 10:27 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:

  I have KDE, xfce, and Mate all working under Ubuntu, nothing special with
any of the installs but this is under 14.04 LTS and 14.10, haven't tried
15.04 (yet).


Ubuntu 15.04 ships KDE/Plasma 5, which unfortunately also needs a newer GLX extension. As 
such, it sadly falls into the "unsupported" range.



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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Mihai Moldovan
On 23.04.2015 10:27 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:
>   I have KDE, xfce, and Mate all working under Ubuntu, nothing special 
> with
> any of the installs but this is under 14.04 LTS and 14.10, haven't tried
> 15.04 (yet).

Ubuntu 15.04 ships KDE/Plasma 5, which unfortunately also needs a newer GLX 
extension. As such, it sadly falls into the "unsupported" range.



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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Robert Dinse


 I have KDE, xfce, and Mate all working under Ubuntu, nothing special with
any of the installs but this is under 14.04 LTS and 14.10, haven't tried
15.04 (yet).

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:


Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:23:00 -0700
From: Eric Kolotyluk 
To: Robert Dinse 
Cc: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

OK, I had to install MATE, and was able to get it working. None of the others 
worked, including KDE.


Thanks for the tip, much appreciated.

At this point, I would suggest adding to your documentation that for Ubuntu 
15.04 people use http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download and follow the steps 
for Ubuntu 14.04 with "Ubuntu MATE"


My next step is to see if I can get this working on an EC2 instance.

Cheers, Eric

On 2015-04-23 12:51 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:


 For now you need to use a non-compositing Desktop such as Mate or KDE,
compositing desktops don't presently work with X2Go.  My understanding is
that work is currently being done to remedy this.


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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:


Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:47:49 -0700
From: Eric Kolotyluk 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

Installed x2go server on Ubuntu 15.04 (running under VMWare Workstation on 
Windows 8.1)


Installed x2go client on Windows 8.1

I am now able to connect to Ubuntu, but all I get is a blank x2go window. 
My profile has the Unity desktop manager selected, but nothing happens and 
I have to force the connection closed.


When I do a 'ps aux | grep x2go" I can see lots of stuff running, but 
Unity is not running in my x2go window. I can see the following running


x2gocleansessions
x2goruncommand
x2goagent

So far my experience is, like every other X/Windows I have ever used, it 
is a royal pain in the  to get things configured and working.


Where do I go from here?

- Eric
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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Eric Kolotyluk
OK, I had to install MATE, and was able to get it working. None of the 
others worked, including KDE.


Thanks for the tip, much appreciated.

At this point, I would suggest adding to your documentation that for 
Ubuntu 15.04 people use http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download and follow 
the steps for Ubuntu 14.04 with "Ubuntu MATE"


My next step is to see if I can get this working on an EC2 instance.

Cheers, Eric

On 2015-04-23 12:51 PM, Robert Dinse wrote:


 For now you need to use a non-compositing Desktop such as Mate or 
KDE,

compositing desktops don't presently work with X2Go.  My understanding is
that work is currently being done to remedy this.

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:


Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:47:49 -0700
From: Eric Kolotyluk 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

Installed x2go server on Ubuntu 15.04 (running under VMWare 
Workstation on Windows 8.1)


Installed x2go client on Windows 8.1

I am now able to connect to Ubuntu, but all I get is a blank x2go 
window. My profile has the Unity desktop manager selected, but 
nothing happens and I have to force the connection closed.


When I do a 'ps aux | grep x2go" I can see lots of stuff running, but 
Unity is not running in my x2go window. I can see the following running


x2gocleansessions
x2goruncommand
x2goagent

So far my experience is, like every other X/Windows I have ever used, 
it is a royal pain in the  to get things configured and working.


Where do I go from here?

- Eric
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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Stefan Baur
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Am 23.04.2015 um 21:51 schrieb Robert Dinse:
> compositing desktops don't presently work with X2Go.  My
> understanding is that work is currently being done to remedy this.

To quote Mike#1: "No ETA".  So don't hold your breath.  Of course,
sponsoring work in that area is very welcome.

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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Stefan Baur
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Am 23.04.2015 um 21:47 schrieb Eric Kolotyluk:
> Where do I go from here?

To our http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:de-compat?s[]=compatibility
list, which clearly states that Unity on Ubuntu 12.10 and later is not
supported. :-)

(The same page also lists which desktop environments *are* supported.)

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Re: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

2015-04-23 Thread Robert Dinse


 For now you need to use a non-compositing Desktop such as Mate or KDE,
compositing desktops don't presently work with X2Go.  My understanding is
that work is currently being done to remedy this.

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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, Eric Kolotyluk wrote:


Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:47:49 -0700
From: Eric Kolotyluk 
To: x2go-user@lists.x2go.org
Subject: [X2Go-User] First Time Woes

Installed x2go server on Ubuntu 15.04 (running under VMWare Workstation on 
Windows 8.1)


Installed x2go client on Windows 8.1

I am now able to connect to Ubuntu, but all I get is a blank x2go window. My 
profile has the Unity desktop manager selected, but nothing happens and I 
have to force the connection closed.


When I do a 'ps aux | grep x2go" I can see lots of stuff running, but Unity 
is not running in my x2go window. I can see the following running


x2gocleansessions
x2goruncommand
x2goagent

So far my experience is, like every other X/Windows I have ever used, it is a 
royal pain in the  to get things configured and working.


Where do I go from here?

- Eric
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