Re: [Xastir] Proposed change to handling of gps-downloaded shapefiles.

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 11:06:03AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> 
> What I propose to change is to allow the dbfawk file to override the 
> hard-coded
> stuff even when the  file is in the GPS directory.  The dbfawk file that is
> written out by xastir by default is set up to mimic the default behavior, 
> so this should be a user-invisible change.  If the user were to edit the 
> dbfawk
> file and fine tune it, however, the changes would be visible immediately upon
> map redraw, and would not require clumsy name changing or moving the file to
> a different directory just to disable the default behavior.
> 
> So, if I were to make that change and let map_shp always use the dbfawk file
> if that feature is enabled and the file exists, and only use the default
> hard-coded behavior if dbfawk is disabled or there IS no dbfawk file, would 
> anyone be terribly offended?
> 
> I think that making this change would be a usability improvement.  But I'm 
> happy to listen to those who think otherwise.

I only heard one comment, and it was favorable.  I just committed a change.
It was very simple.

As of now, if a shapefile is in the GPS directory and there is a DBFAWK file
with the same base name, and Xastir is compiled with DBFAWK support, the 
DBFAWK file controls the rendering, period.

If there is no dbfawk file, or if DBFAWK is disabled at compile time, the 
old fixed-style, color-based-on-file-name behavior is still there.

Unfortunately, I discovered that the dbfawk file we've been writing out did
not match the style that the hard-coded stuff used.  It had 1 "lane" solid
lines instead of fat dashed lines.  I fixed that so new GPS downloads will 
create dbfawk files that render the gps tracks the same way as before this
change.  But it does mean that if you have a stock of downloaded GPS tracks
with associated dbfawk files, they will suddenly look different, because the
old dbfawk files will now be honored instead of mostly ignored.

If this happens to you, you can do one of two things:  remove the dbfawk file
to revert to the old behavior, or edit the dbfawk file to give the behavior
you want.  The variables to change are "pattern" (which should  be 1 to match
the old rendering) and "lanes" (which should be 3.

I hope that now that the rendering of gps downloads is controlled by the dbfawk
file instead of the file name and the name of the directory in which it lives,
users will have better control over the presentation of GPS data.

Now a question: is anyone aware of a good tool for tweaking shapefiles, as in
removing garbage points?  I downloaded a GPS track, and there was a single 
extra point at the beginning that was garbage --- several degrees jump from
the first and second point, and after that it was fine.  Xastir is drawing
a huge line from the starting point to the second point, and has a rendering 
problem at zoom levels below 8 when it tries to draw that line (fills the screen
with horizontal bars).  Unfortunately, I cannot find any tool that will let
me delete that first point from the shapefile.  I've tried qgis, but even
though it'll let me edit the layer and will flash the point when I click
the "delete vertex" tool on it, it doesn't actually do the deletion.  Grrr.
Any helpful hints would be welcome.

Of course, I could always write a quick tool that links with shapelib and 
writes out all but the first vertex, but that seems like too much of a hack, 
even for this simple task.

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[Xastir] [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware (fwd)

2006-12-12 Thread Curt Mills

FYI.

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:47:12 -0500
From: Ian Millett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TAPR APRS Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [aprssig] TGR2SHP TIGER/Line translator is now Freeware

>From the GIS Tools website www.gistools.com
GIS Tools Software is Now Freeware

GIS Tools, providers of software such as TGR2SHP, TGR2MIF, and Census Summary 
File translators will now make their software available as freeware. Dr. Bruce 
Ralston, the author of these programs, states that making these programs 
available for free is part of his service on the Association of American 
Geographers Census Committee. In addition to making the executables available, 
the source code for TGR2SHP is also available along with a technical whitepaper 
describing the logic and structure of TGR2SHP. States Ralston, "In working with 
students, and in my own self-education, I have found some of the ideas used in 
TGR2SHP, particularly efficient extracting of the topology in TIGER and the 
strategy for quickly assembling area features (polygons to us older folks), to 
be quite instructive. Students who have been exposed to these ideas seem to 
have a better understanding of how programs can be structured to exploit 
topological relationships."
The programs, user manuals, whitepaper, and source code can be found at 
http://tnatlas.geog.utk.edu/downloadfree.htm. A whitepaper and source code for 
the summary file extractors will be released before the end of this calendar 
year.

note: Thanks to Dr. Ralston for releasing his software and source code to 
freeware.

Ian, N3CVA
Geographer
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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread KC7ZRU - Tate
And don't forget your password!

There's very limited password recovery available. In spite of the efforts
of the site operator (thanks!), the wiki software doesn't make it easy to
recover a lost password.

It's '''much easier''' to just create a new login.

I gave up getting a working password for my callsign login after
forgetting it's password. You'll find my edits, efforts, ramblings,
misdirections and occasional outright screw ups under 'Zotter' now.

Tate
KC7ZRU

On Tue, December 12, 2006 1:29 pm, James Ewen wrote:
>> Also... Do I need a password/account?
>
> You can view the Wiki information without an account. To be able to
> edit, you need to set up an account.
>
> The account is quick and easy to set up. It is needed to keep bots
> from wiping out Wikis... You can create an account and be able to edit
> the Wiki within a minute.
>
> James
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Re: [Xastir] Functionality Request

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 02:05:42PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> I am connected to the filter port 14580 
> 
> My filter string is:  
> 
>  m/200 -b/CW* -b/WX*
> 
> This results in a filter that gives me all stations within 200KM of my
> station, No CW and no WX stations.

The -b filter string filters out based on call-signs.  It is probably not
usable to filter out WinLink stations since those have no specific prefix the 
way CW and WX stations do.  Filtering by symbol (e.g. with -s) is probably what
Christian needs.  If the local WinLink stations *do* have a unique prefix 
then your method for filtering CW and WX stations will work.

> 
> On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:51 -0800, Curt, WE7U wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Christian wrote:
> > 
> > > If it is not too difficult, could a switch be installed inside the
> > > Station --> Filter Data menu to knock out the Winlink / ARRL images from
> > > the display?  The only current way to kill them off seems to be
> > > disabling Select Objects / Items, but that kills off APRS weather icons.
> > >
> > > I mainly use Xastir for looking at radar images superimposed on roads
> > > and lakes.  I encourage the use of this excellent software on our
> > > website http://www.wx9grb.org and I include instructions for folks to
> > > set it up.  With our mission of looking at weather data on a map, the
> > > Winlink W icons are clutter and get in the way.  A filter would be 
> > > awesome.
> > 
> > Can you not filter these at your internet feed?  If you're using a
> > filtered port there may be a way.  Perhaps someone can help you
> > figure out the right filter string.  I'm not very knowledgeable
> > about the various filters.

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Re: [Xastir] Functionality Request

2006-12-12 Thread Andreas Junge
I am connected to the filter port 14580 

My filter string is:  

 m/200 -b/CW* -b/WX*

This results in a filter that gives me all stations within 200KM of my
station, No CW and no WX stations.

73, Andreas, N6NU


On Tue, 2006-12-12 at 13:51 -0800, Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Christian wrote:
> 
> > If it is not too difficult, could a switch be installed inside the
> > Station --> Filter Data menu to knock out the Winlink / ARRL images from
> > the display?  The only current way to kill them off seems to be
> > disabling Select Objects / Items, but that kills off APRS weather icons.
> >
> > I mainly use Xastir for looking at radar images superimposed on roads
> > and lakes.  I encourage the use of this excellent software on our
> > website http://www.wx9grb.org and I include instructions for folks to
> > set it up.  With our mission of looking at weather data on a map, the
> > Winlink W icons are clutter and get in the way.  A filter would be awesome.
> 
> Can you not filter these at your internet feed?  If you're using a
> filtered port there may be a way.  Perhaps someone can help you
> figure out the right filter string.  I'm not very knowledgeable
> about the various filters.
> 
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Re: [Xastir] Functionality Request

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 01:51:10PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Christian wrote:
> 
> > If it is not too difficult, could a switch be installed inside the
> > Station --> Filter Data menu to knock out the Winlink / ARRL images from
> > the display?  The only current way to kill them off seems to be
> > disabling Select Objects / Items, but that kills off APRS weather icons.
> >
> > I mainly use Xastir for looking at radar images superimposed on roads
> > and lakes.  I encourage the use of this excellent software on our
> > website http://www.wx9grb.org and I include instructions for folks to
> > set it up.  With our mission of looking at weather data on a map, the
> > Winlink W icons are clutter and get in the way.  A filter would be awesome.
> 
> Can you not filter these at your internet feed?  If you're using a
> filtered port there may be a way.  Perhaps someone can help you
> figure out the right filter string.  I'm not very knowledgeable
> about the various filters.

Since the WinLink objects all use the ARRL symbol with W overlay it should be
possible to filter them out with the "-s//a/W" filter string ("do not pass 
posits from stations with the a symbol from the alt table with W overlay").  
See http://www.aprs-is.net/javAPRSSrvr/javaprsfilter.htm for details.

Since these objects will only come in over a server port, that seems the 
right approach -- just tell the server to not even send them to you.

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Re: [Xastir] Functionality Request

2006-12-12 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Christian wrote:

> If it is not too difficult, could a switch be installed inside the
> Station --> Filter Data menu to knock out the Winlink / ARRL images from
> the display?  The only current way to kill them off seems to be
> disabling Select Objects / Items, but that kills off APRS weather icons.
>
> I mainly use Xastir for looking at radar images superimposed on roads
> and lakes.  I encourage the use of this excellent software on our
> website http://www.wx9grb.org and I include instructions for folks to
> set it up.  With our mission of looking at weather data on a map, the
> Winlink W icons are clutter and get in the way.  A filter would be awesome.

Can you not filter these at your internet feed?  If you're using a
filtered port there may be a way.  Perhaps someone can help you
figure out the right filter string.  I'm not very knowledgeable
about the various filters.

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Re: [Xastir] Mac and GPS (was: Linux Standard Base Xastir Binary)

2006-12-12 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Chip G. wrote:

> >   GPSMan. Needs "lsb-Tcl/Tk" + "lsb-gpsmanshp". Change to
> > "gpsbabel" instead?
>
> Hmmm. I like the sound of this. I haven't had any success in adding
> GPSMan to my system. But I see that gpsbabel is available via Fink
> (package management system). So the question is this, if you add
> gpsbabel support for LSB, will it be available as an option for Mac
> (and other) users? That would make Xastir that much more powerful for
> my system of choice.

Just an idea at this point.  I have to write them down quickly
before other ideas take their place.


> > Building with ErrorPopups (Old Method) . : no
>
> If it's the old method, why would I want? Never tried to build.

It'll probably be deprecated at some point, or at least removed from
that screen (but left as a configure option).


> > Building with libgc (Debug)  : no
>
> Why two methods of Debug? I have profiling in stead. No idea how to
> control or use it yet, but some time I'll get around to it.
>
> > Building with profiling (Debug)  : yes

Libc is used for debugging memory leaks.  The other one is used for
figuring out where the program is spending all its time so that we
can speed it up.

I'll have another option available later today that should make a
few of you happy.  No, it's not another debugging option.  Later!

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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread James Ewen

Also... Do I need a password/account?


You can view the Wiki information without an account. To be able to
edit, you need to set up an account.

The account is quick and easy to set up. It is needed to keep bots
from wiping out Wikis... You can create an account and be able to edit
the Wiki within a minute.

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[Xastir] Functionality Request

2006-12-12 Thread Christian

Hello,

If it is not too difficult, could a switch be installed inside the 
Station --> Filter Data menu to knock out the Winlink / ARRL images from 
the display?  The only current way to kill them off seems to be 
disabling Select Objects / Items, but that kills off APRS weather icons.


I mainly use Xastir for looking at radar images superimposed on roads 
and lakes.  I encourage the use of this excellent software on our 
website http://www.wx9grb.org and I include instructions for folks to 
set it up.  With our mission of looking at weather data on a map, the 
Winlink W icons are clutter and get in the way.  A filter would be awesome.


Thanks,

Christian KC0ARF
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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 02:51:49PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> On Dec 12, 2006, at 13:53, Steve Friis wrote:
> 
> >Yea, but you should have put a link here somewhere so us fat-dumb- 
> >ugly ones can find it.
> 
> Also... Do I need a password/account?

You need a username and password to edit pages.  Establish one if you plan
to edit the pages.

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Re: [Xastir] Mac and GPS

2006-12-12 Thread Jason Winningham


On Dec 12, 2006, at 1:50 PM, Chip G. wrote:


I haven't had any success in adding GPSMan to my system.


I had GPSman working on my mac (until I installed a new OS and broke  
_everything_, mostly on purpose).  I don't recall it being a  
significant effort, but I did find two things when I poked around my  
old install. One was a change to the tcl source file:


$ cd /usr/local/gpsman-6.2.1
$ diff gpsman.tcl gpsman.tcl~
214c214
< set SRCDIR /usr/local/gpsman-6.2.1/gmsrc
---
> set SRCDIR /usr/local/gpsman-6.2.1


The other was a symbolic link in /usr/local/bin:

$ cd /usr/local/bin
$ ls -l gpsman
lrwxr-xr-x   1 jdw  staff  26 Jul 19  2005 gpsman -> ../gpsman-6.2.1/ 
gpsman.tcl


I vaguely recall making this link.  In any event, it didn't seem too  
tough at the time, but it seems there were small discrepancies  
between the instructions and the actual install process that worked.


As for GPSmanshp, I had to twiddle the Makefile for Mac OS X  
compatibility:


$ diff Makefile Makefile~
32c32
< LINKOPT = -L/usr/local/lib -lshp -ltcl$(TCLVERSION)
---
> LINKOPT = -lshp -ltcl$(TCLVERSION)
35c35
<   $(CC) -dylib -o gpsmanshp.so $(LINKOPT) gpsmanshp.o
---
>   $(CC) -shared -o gpsmanshp.so $(LINKOPT) gpsmanshp.o


FWIW, I don't use Fink or darwinports; I build from source.


Another GPS related thing that may be of interest to Mac users is a  
version of GPSd bundled up ready to go for Mac OS X:


http://www.grandhighwizard.net/gpsdx.html

Note I have not installed this, much less tested it, but I have ran  
GPSd built from source on the Mac.  This appears to be an easier  
route, especially if you want to run GPSd all the time.


I don't know if it's supported in the Mac version, but GPSd claims  
USB support for some Garmin USB attached GPS units.  It's conceivable  
that it's a linux-only thing, what with the kernel being involved, so  
I don't have extremely high hopes for that feature.


-Jason
kg4wsv


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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread Chip G.

On Dec 12, 2006, at 13:53, Steve Friis wrote:

Yea, but you should have put a link here somewhere so us fat-dumb- 
ugly ones can find it.


Also... Do I need a password/account?


73,
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Re: [Xastir] Mac and GPS (was: Linux Standard Base Xastir Binary)

2006-12-12 Thread Chip G.

On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:00, Curt, WE7U wrote:


The things we _don't_ have working yet under LSB are:
[...]
  GPSMan. Needs "lsb-Tcl/Tk" + "lsb-gpsmanshp". Change to  
"gpsbabel" instead?


Hmmm. I like the sound of this. I haven't had any success in adding  
GPSMan to my system. But I see that gpsbabel is available via Fink  
(package management system). So the question is this, if you add  
gpsbabel support for LSB, will it be available as an option for Mac  
(and other) users? That would make Xastir that much more powerful for  
my system of choice.


Here's what my system has:

xastir 1.8.5 has been configured to use the following
options and external libraries:

Building with AX25 . : no


Currently not an option for Mac systems.


Building with Festival . : no
Building with GPSMan ... : no


No success in building these two into my system.


Building with ImageMagick .. : yes
Building with libproj .. : yes
Building with GeoTiff .. : yes
Building with GDAL/OGR . : yes
Building with ShapeLib . : yes
Building with pcre . : yes
Building with dbfawk ... : yes
Building with map caching .. : yes
--
Building with ErrorPopups (Old Method) . : no


If it's the old method, why would I want? Never tried to build.


Building with libgc (Debug)  : no


Why two methods of Debug? I have profiling in stead. No idea how to  
control or use it yet, but some time I'll get around to it.



Building with profiling (Debug)  : yes
Building with rtree indexing (Experimental)  : yes
Building with Linux Standard Base .. : no


Don't have Linux, so no issue.



73,
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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 11:53:48AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> Tom Russo wrote:
> >
> >As one of the original skeptics of the utility of a Wiki over flat ASCII 
> >files,
> >I have been trying to prove myself wrong by working on getting several of 
> >the wiki pages to be complete and informative, to update them with 
> >additional hints and tips as I stumble on them, and to tweak the 
> >organization to make it
> >easier to find information.  Please pitch in and help make this thing as 
> >useful to as many new and casual users as we can.
> 
> Yea, but you should have put a link here somewhere so us fat-dumb-ugly 
> ones can find it.

The wiki is accessible from the xastir home page at http://www.xastir.org/
Just click "Xastir Documentation" on the left of the page.

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Re: [Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread Steve Friis

Tom Russo wrote:
The Xastir wiki can be a great source of documentation, kept up-to-date and 
growing by the concerted efforts of the Xastir community.  Left to itself, 
however, it'll just become a cobweb site of stale information of no use to 
anyone.


Right now, there is a very short list of people working on the wiki pages.  The 
main documentation page is a half-populated skeleton of information, there are 
some half-formatted pages that look like cut-and-pastes from existing pages but 
with no functioning images or links, and (on the upside) there are some very 
good pages on system specific installation.  There are two ways to fix this:

wait until someone else populates the thing, or start adding to it yourself.

Right now, the wiki is not a substitute for the flat files that come with a
distribution tarball or cvs checkout, but if enough distributed effort were 
applied it could be a much, much more readable and searchable way to get

information to the user community.

As one of the original skeptics of the utility of a Wiki over flat ASCII files,
I have been trying to prove myself wrong by working on getting several of the 
wiki pages to be complete and informative, to update them with additional 
hints and tips as I stumble on them, and to tweak the organization to make it
easier to find information.  Please pitch in and help make this thing as 
useful to as many new and casual users as we can.


  


Yea, but you should have put a link here somewhere so us fat-dumb-ugly 
ones can find it.


Z

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[Xastir] Ask not what your Wiki can do for you. Ask rather what you can do for your Wiki.

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Russo
The Xastir wiki can be a great source of documentation, kept up-to-date and 
growing by the concerted efforts of the Xastir community.  Left to itself, 
however, it'll just become a cobweb site of stale information of no use to 
anyone.

Right now, there is a very short list of people working on the wiki pages.  The 
main documentation page is a half-populated skeleton of information, there are 
some half-formatted pages that look like cut-and-pastes from existing pages but 
with no functioning images or links, and (on the upside) there are some very 
good pages on system specific installation.  There are two ways to fix this:
wait until someone else populates the thing, or start adding to it yourself.

Right now, the wiki is not a substitute for the flat files that come with a
distribution tarball or cvs checkout, but if enough distributed effort were 
applied it could be a much, much more readable and searchable way to get
information to the user community.

As one of the original skeptics of the utility of a Wiki over flat ASCII files,
I have been trying to prove myself wrong by working on getting several of the 
wiki pages to be complete and informative, to update them with additional 
hints and tips as I stumble on them, and to tweak the organization to make it
easier to find information.  Please pitch in and help make this thing as 
useful to as many new and casual users as we can.

-- 
Tom RussoKM5VY   SAR502   DM64ux  http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
Tijeras, NM  QRPL#1592 K2#398  SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM
"And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is
 one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh,
 oooh, the sky is the limit!"  --- The Tick
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Re: [Xastir] Linux Standard Base Xastir Binary

2006-12-12 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Curt, WE7U wrote:

> Here's what LSB-Xastir currently contains:
>
>   Building with AX25 . : no
>   Building with Festival . : yes
>   Building with GPSMan ... : no
>   Building with GraphicsMagick ... : yes
>   Building with libproj .. : yes
>   Building with GeoTiff .. : yes
>   Building with GDAL/OGR . : no
>   Building with ShapeLib . : yes (internal)
>   Building with pcre . : yes
>   Building with dbfawk ... : yes
>   Building with map caching .. : yes
>   --
>   Building with ErrorPopups (Old Method) . : no
>   Building with libgc (Debug)  : no
>   Building with profiling (Debug)  : no
>   Building with rtree indexing (Experimental)  : yes
>   Building with Linux Standard Base .. : yes

Again, for those that wish to try the Linux Standard Base (LSB) x86
binary:

*) Make sure your Linux system has an x86 processor of some type and
is LSB-compliant.  Usually this last bit involves installing a
package like "lsb" or "lsb-base".

*) Download the binary package from:

ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/u/a/archer/aprs/xastir/LSB/

It should be of the format:  "xastir-lsb-1.8.5.tar.bz2"

*) Install it:

su
cd   /
tar  xjvf  xastir-lsb-1.8.5.tar.bz2
exit (from root)

*) Run it:

/opt/Xastir/bin/xastir &


No compiling necessary if you have an LSB-compliant system!

Differences between this and a standard install:  Instead of
installing everything starting at the "/usr/local/" heirarchy, we
install starting at "/opt/Xastir/".

This means your map directories start at:
"/opt/Xastir/share/xastir/maps"

User-specific info is still stored in your home directory in the
~/.xastir hierarchy.

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[Xastir] Linux Standard Base Xastir Binary

2006-12-12 Thread Curt, WE7U

We just got rid of the dependency on "/usr/bin/finger" in Xastir,
replacing it with our own internal TCP code.  Fetching the full NOAA
weather alert text should always work now on all platforms including
LSB.  Double-click on an alert in the View->Weather Alerts dialog to
see the full NOAA text.  We should have a note regarding this
displayed somewhere on that dialog.

I've enabled the Festival client code in the LSB binary.  Once you
install Festival on your system and start it in server mode,
LSB-Xastir should find it.

Snapshots work now too under LSB.

Here's what LSB-Xastir currently contains:


  xastir 1.8.5 has been configured to use the following
  options and external libraries:

  Building with AX25 . : no
  Building with Festival . : yes
  Building with GPSMan ... : no
  Building with GraphicsMagick ... : yes
  Building with libproj .. : yes
  Building with GeoTiff .. : yes
  Building with GDAL/OGR . : no
  Building with ShapeLib . : yes (internal)
  Building with pcre . : yes
  Building with dbfawk ... : yes
  Building with map caching .. : yes
  --
  Building with ErrorPopups (Old Method) . : no
  Building with libgc (Debug)  : no
  Building with profiling (Debug)  : no
  Building with rtree indexing (Experimental)  : yes
  Building with Linux Standard Base .. : yes


The things we _don't_ have working yet under LSB are:

  Printing (needs "lsb-gv" which needs "lsb-libXaw3d" which
  needs "lsb-libXmu"...)

  AX.25 (depends on kernel version, can't implement within LSB)

  GPSMan. Needs "lsb-Tcl/Tk" + "lsb-gpsmanshp". Change to
  "gpsbabel" instead?

  GDAL (Still working on this)


Note that we also have some dependencies on external binaries here
and there, but in each case they are specified as "must be present"
in the LSB spec.  This doesn't mean they have to be present in the
path on non-Linux systems (or even non-LSB-compliant Linux systems),
so it'd be great to get rid of these dependencies at some point as
well.

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