Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[Earl Needham via Kubuntu]

	Wow -- I just got the audio alarms to operate, and I found that every 
time the GPS is checked, I get a proximity warning!


Strange...

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Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[Tom Russo]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:24:42PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
>  KC7ZRU - Tate wrote:
> > On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:27 am, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:
> >>Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in Xastir.  I'm
> >> trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't know
> >> th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!  
> > File > Config > Audio Alarms
> > and
> > File > Config > Speech
> > But, for speech to work, you'll have to have compiled in festival support
> > and started the festival server *before* you start Xastir.
> > festival --server & 
> 
>   Oops, guess I need to recompile for speech to work, but what about the 
>  audio alarms?

You need only have a program that can play audio files, and tell xastir what
that program is.  I recommend esdplay, which is in the esd-clients (or 
some similarly named) package.  It might even be installed already on your
Kubuntu system.  You need not compile anything new into xastir for
regular audio alarms, only for speech synthesis.

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Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[Earl Needham via Kubuntu]

KC7ZRU - Tate wrote:

On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:27 am, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:

Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in Xastir.  I'm
trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't know
th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!  



File > Config > Audio Alarms
and
File > Config > Speech

But, for speech to work, you'll have to have compiled in festival support
and started the festival server *before* you start Xastir.

festival --server & 


	Oops, guess I need to recompile for speech to work, but what about the 
audio alarms?


Thanks,
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Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[Lee Bengston]

   > On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:27 am, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:


> >
> > Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in
Xastir.  I'm
> > trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't
know
> > th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!



Here's what worked for me:

Kubuntu already has a command line mp3 player installed (mpg123).

In Xastir, under FILE-CONFIGURE-AUDIO ALARMS, change the audio play command
to mpg123
and change each file name ending in .wav to end in .mp3 (for example,
newstation.mp3).
Then download the Xastir sound files and convert them to MP3's.
Put the MP3 files in /user/local/share/xastir/sounds

To speed up the last part, I put the mp3 versions of the sound files at the
following link:
http://www.175moonlight.com/xastir/mp3/xastirmp3.tar

If you want the sounds to play, remember to turn on the newstation alarm and
any others that you want under FILE-CONFIGURE-AUDIO ALARMS

If you use konqueror to browse directories and copy files, you will probably
have to enter sudo konqueror at a command prompt in order use it to copy the
mp3 files into the /user/local/share/xastir/sounds directory due to the
permissions settings.

Regards,

Lee-K5DAT
Murphy, TX
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Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[Tom Russo]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:24:55PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:27 am, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:
> >
> > Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in Xastir.  I'm
> > trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't know
> > th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!  
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Earl
> > --
> > Earl Needham KD5XB
> > Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
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> >
> 
> 
> File > Config > Audio Alarms
> and
> File > Config > Speech
> 
> But, for speech to work, you'll have to have compiled in festival support
> and started the festival server *before* you start Xastir.
> 
> festival --server & 

In more detail:

There are two ways to get xastir to do sounds. One is synthesized speech, 
which requires festival, and the other is just playing static sound files 
(Audio Alarms).

In order for Audio Alarms to work, you need to tell xastir what program to use 
to play the audio files.  I believe that the default is some program that is 
not available on the default Kubuntu install (I think it's "vplay" and I've yet
to touch a system that had it).  You just need to replace that in the 
Config->Audio Alarms dialog's "Audio Play Command" box with something that 
actually exists and works from the command line.

I am not near my Ubuntu machine, so I can't check, and I never use the audio
alarms so I don't have it configured.  I think if you install a 
package called "esdtools" or "esdclients" you can use "/usr/bin/esdplay" 
instead.  esdplay interacts with the esd daemon that should already be running
on your system and allows multiple programs to access the sound system at once.
Before you expect Xastir to work with esdplay, you need to try it out from
a command line and see if it plays a sound file.  E.g. 
"esdplay /usr/local/share/xastir/sounds/newstation.wav" should play a 
sound "New Station!" if all is working.

Of course you also need to download the sound files that Xastir will look for.  
They're available on the xastir sourceforge download page.

But if you want synthesized speech, start the festival daemon and make sure 
Xastir is built with that support.  I prefer the synthesized speech to the
static audio files, but I rarely enable it  because it gets annoying really
fast unless you're using it for somethign specific.  The synthesized speech
option does not require that you download any sound files.


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Re: [Xastir] Playing sounds

[KC7ZRU - Tate]

On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:27 am, Earl Needham via Kubuntu wrote:
>
>   Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in Xastir.  I'm
> trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't know
> th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!  
>
>   Thanks,
>   Earl
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> Earl Needham KD5XB
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File > Config > Audio Alarms
and
File > Config > Speech

But, for speech to work, you'll have to have compiled in festival support
and started the festival server *before* you start Xastir.

festival --server & 

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Re: [Xastir] educate the un-informed

[KC7ZRU - Tate]

On Tue, July 10, 2007 11:05 am, Steve Huston wrote:
> On 07/10/2007 12:54 PM, KC7ZRU - Tate wrote:
>> There's a balloon icon, with a black, dotted square and bisecting lines
>> from corner to corner of the square near Salt Lake City. Box covers a
>> fairly large area.
>> What does that dotted line box indicate?
>> Maybe some kind of 'visibility' foot print?
>
> Position ambiguity; if you look at the object, some of the least
> significant digits of the position will be missing, so it could be
> anywhere within that box based on what digits it did transmit.
>
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Cool, thanks.

The white boxes seen when zoomed in tight are "error" boxes then?

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[Xastir] Playing sounds

[Earl Needham via Kubuntu]

	Uh -- somebody send me a clue how to get sounds to play in Xastir.  I'm 
trying to get new station announcement, etc., to play, and I don't know 
th esyntax.  Apparently play with nothing else doesn't do it!  


Thanks,
Earl
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Re: [Xastir] educate the un-informed

[Steve Huston]

On 07/10/2007 12:54 PM, KC7ZRU - Tate wrote:
> There's a balloon icon, with a black, dotted square and bisecting lines
> from corner to corner of the square near Salt Lake City. Box covers a
> fairly large area.
> What does that dotted line box indicate?
> Maybe some kind of 'visibility' foot print?

Position ambiguity; if you look at the object, some of the least
significant digits of the position will be missing, so it could be
anywhere within that box based on what digits it did transmit.

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  Princeton, NJ   08544 | the galaxies; headed for the heart of Cygnus,
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[Xastir] educate the un-informed

[KC7ZRU - Tate]

See the snapshot at: http://netmanservices.net/snapshot.png

There's a balloon icon, with a black, dotted square and bisecting lines
from corner to corner of the square near Salt Lake City. Box covers a
fairly large area.

What does that dotted line box indicate?
Maybe some kind of 'visibility' foot print?

Thanks!
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[Xastir] tigermap routines fail with fedora 7

[Richard Polivka, N6NKO]

I got the routines from Jason to try and see if I can do the conversions 
on BigBox with Fedora 7.


It crashes because of a naming issue with our friend GDAL.

Since I am on the laptop, I will have to get the exact details later.

Happy, happy, joy, joy...

Richard, N6NKO

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Re: [Xastir] openSUSE 10.2 CVS Success

[Tom Russo]

On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:26:04PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
>  On 7/8/07, Steve Friis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What you have below is great. Just one thought here though. In the
> > scripts folder there is a script file  that pretty much
> > installs everything. Is this going to go away? I think it sure made the
> > install easy. Gives you all the needed libraries.
> >
> > Steve/WM5Z
> 
> 
>  It might be just me, but I like to install as much as possible from the
>  repositories for the applicable distribution, and then if there is anything
>  left, use the get-maptools script to make up the difference.  That looks
>  like the approach taken in the HowTo:Ubuntu 6.10 or
>  7.04.

My intention with the HowTo:Ubuntu... page was to describe how a typical
user might want to install xastir.  That being the case, one would want to
allow the package management system to handle the maximum number of external
libraries --- that way they are always updated and rarely stuck at ancient
versions.  Once you decide to install a software tool by hand from source,
you're exempting that package from automatic updates through the package
management system.

get-maptools.sh is convenient, but it installs particular revisions of some
software that is better left to the package management system, such as
pcre.  pcre can be required by more than just xastir, and has more updates
than most of the other things that get-maptools.sh installs.  Installing
an old version from source can cause problems for those managed packages that 
need it.  get-maptools installs pcre 6.3, and the current version is past
7.0.  

Proj.4 is another thing that is easily installed through the package management
system, and while it is more stable than most things, is still subject to more
updates than get-maptools is.  Proj.4 is already up to 4.5.x, and get-maptools
still installs 4.4.9 (at least two releases old).  Most package management
systems track that reasonably well --- it's certainly the case that Ubuntu
and FreeBSD both have current proj versionsin their package
systems.

gdal, not needed by most users, is installed by get-maptools by default, and
it's not even a current version --- they're coming up on release 1.4.2 now,
and get-maptools still installs 1.3.2 (I updated that back in November,
and it's already stale).  Not that it matters for xastir, because
xastir barely uses that library.  But try to install any current version of
GRASS or QGIS, and GDAL 1.3.2 will cause some problems.

Further, get-maptools is not actively maintained by any xastir developer, and 
we usually don't update the software it installs until someone points out that 
the versions it's looking for aren't available anymore, or someone gets a 
wild hair and goes through it looking for moldy versions.

On my own systems, I tend to install software from bleeding-edge source code
only for those packages for which I need bleeding-edge, or for which the
system's package management system is absurdly stale --- for example, GRASS
QGIS, and GDAL are almost never cutting edge (or even current) in most package 
management systems, and are usually at least two or three releases behind the 
times.  And once I've made the decision to do that, I'm stuck checking for
new versions rather frequently.  But shapelib is pretty much at a development 
dead end, so there's no need to install it from sources unless there's no 
packaged version available.

So basically, get-maptools is a nice tool for when you *can't* get everything
installed even easier through the package management system, or for when
the versions in the package management system are even staler than the ones
that get-maptools installs.

In short, I think it's wise for the Wiki HowTo pages for specific OS installs
to document the install for that system making use of the maximum number of
managed packages, and to minimize the amount of software downloaded and
installed outside of the package management system.  Individual users who
have special needs can figure out how to modify the instructions to get what
they want, and those who just want something that works and is stable can
follow the instructions as written. 

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