Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Aug 9, 2007, at 1:22 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: What is the limitation on this? Is it something that can't be coded in? Hard/complex? Just curious I suspect it's a limitation of the linestyles available in Xlib without resorting to a) heavy coding, or b) adding yet another support package requirement, but only the developer who made that design decision knows for sure... I'm willing to play, but in the end I want the best looking maps possible that are easy to read etc. "like google maps" is not the only solution to the problem "easy to read". My maps evolved for a while before I settled on what I currently use, and if I saw someone else's that I like or if another data set became available they'd likely change again. I use National Atlas (www.nationalatlas.gov) shapefiles for zoom levels > 128 and TIGER shapefiles <= 128. The Nat'l Atlas maps look like this with my configuration: http://www.eng.uah.edu/~jdw/xastir/box-snapshot.png light green is background, blue is water, dark green is parks/refuges/ forests, black lines are highways, red lines are interstates/ controlled access roads, dashed lines are railroads, yellow areas are city limits. Here are the things that are easy to change with dbfawk controlled shapefiles: - background color (OK, you don't do that with a dbfawk) - color and width of lines - style of lines (solid or dashed) - display level of particular features (this more or less adjusts the level of detail) - color and pattern for filled polygons - display level for labels (can be different that display level for the feature they describe) - don't display things you want to leave out entirely -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Brad Douglas wrote: > BTW, I tried loading up 30' contours into Xastir. Bad idea. ;-) Doesn't that depend on the size of the area you're looking at? If I'm on a SAR mission I might want 30' contours for a smallish area. If driving or other uses, probably not. One thing to remember though, 30' contours can hide a 30' cliff. 80' contours can hide an 80' cliff. _Maybe_ if we had 10' contours we'd be fairly safe carefully examining an area and then sending SAR personnel into it in the dark. -- Curt, WE7U: XASTIR: "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system! ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 12:34 -0600, Steve Friis wrote: > Brad Douglas wrote: > > PS - > > At this weekend's Linux Picnic[1], I'll be releasing some new maps to > > the public. I've created TOPOs with 500' contours and shaded relief > > (and colored by elevation) pesudo-DEMs to go under the TOPOs to make > > them highly visible. The data is broken down by county and covers the > > entire state of CA. Data for NV is in production. > > > > I'll cc: the group with the final URL. > > > > [1] http://linuxpicnic.org > > > Any chance you will be doing these for other states or have already? > Love to have NM. I have enough base data for the entire country. What I need is time. I haven't had a chance to automate the process as much as possible, yet. I am also putting together a tutorial so that you can create your own if you don't want to wait around for me. NM is on my short list, though. BTW, I tried loading up 30' contours into Xastir. Bad idea. ;-) I put a sample of the raster backdrop here (Alpine Co., CA): http://picasaweb.google.com/jawayetti/GIS Constructive comments welcome. -- Brad Douglas KB8UYR/6 Address: 37.493,-121.924 / WGS84National Map Corps #TNMC-3785 GRASS GIS Project Steering ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
Brad Douglas wrote: PS - At this weekend's Linux Picnic[1], I'll be releasing some new maps to the public. I've created TOPOs with 500' contours and shaded relief (and colored by elevation) pesudo-DEMs to go under the TOPOs to make them highly visible. The data is broken down by county and covers the entire state of CA. Data for NV is in production. I'll cc: the group with the final URL. [1] http://linuxpicnic.org Any chance you will be doing these for other states or have already? Love to have NM. Steve/WM5Z ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
> Which google maps? Colored roads based on road type or colored based on traffic? Colored roads based on road type, not interested in traffic. >One thing that you'll probably find missing is a selection of linestyles - xastir's is pretty limited. IIRC you've got solid lines and dashed lines. If you're >looking for a wide gray line with black borders, you're out of luck. What is the limitation on this? Is it something that can't be coded in? Hard/complex? Just curious > Coloring and styling roads by type is possible with dbfawk, but you won't get the clear, crisp outlines ala Google. Is that because of the above limitation? I'm willing to play, but in the end I want the best looking maps possible that are easy to read etc. The online tiger maps are ok, but I still find them a little difficult on the eyes. Am I moving in the right direction or are there better alternatives to what I am trying to accomplish? I also see that Xastir has limited support for Mapinfo maps, which I have a complete set of, but don't know anything about unfortunately :( 73's Stephen K1LNX On 8/9/07, Jason Winningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: > > > > but still leaves > > me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can > > adjust the > > fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have > > a color > > scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc. > > > > Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts? > > > That's for you to decide after you try it. (: > > The shapefiles you downloaded are a bit complex, but there are > already dbfawks in the xastir distribution to deal with them (in /usr/ > local/share/xastir/config, I think). You can modify those dbfawks to > try and achieve the look you want. > > One thing that you'll probably find missing is a selection of > linestyles - xastir's is pretty limited. IIRC you've got solid lines > and dashed lines. If you're looking for a wide gray line with black > borders, you're out of luck. > > -Jason > kg4wsv > > > -- Stephen Brown - ARS K1LNX Johnson City, TN EM86uh ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Aug 9, 2007, at 12:20 PM, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: but still leaves me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can adjust the fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have a color scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc. Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts? That's for you to decide after you try it. (: The shapefiles you downloaded are a bit complex, but there are already dbfawks in the xastir distribution to deal with them (in /usr/ local/share/xastir/config, I think). You can modify those dbfawks to try and achieve the look you want. One thing that you'll probably find missing is a selection of linestyles - xastir's is pretty limited. IIRC you've got solid lines and dashed lines. If you're looking for a wide gray line with black borders, you're out of luck. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Making better looking maps
On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 13:20 -0400, Stephen - K1LNX wrote: > I downloaded the Tiger 2006 data from > ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/TIGER_2006_SE/for Tennesse to start with. I > got it to display just fine, but still leaves > me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can adjust the > fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have a color > scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc. Which google maps? Colored roads based on road type or colored based on traffic? > Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts? Coloring and styling roads by type is possible with dbfawk, but you won't get the clear, crisp outlines ala Google. Using dbfawk can be a real performance killer at times, so be careful. Road coloring based on traffic is beyond the scope of Xastir, IMO. > I don't have a degree in GIS/Computer Science but I'm not afraid of either > so go lightly on me :P None really needed unless you're coding. PS - At this weekend's Linux Picnic[1], I'll be releasing some new maps to the public. I've created TOPOs with 500' contours and shaded relief (and colored by elevation) pesudo-DEMs to go under the TOPOs to make them highly visible. The data is broken down by county and covers the entire state of CA. Data for NV is in production. I'll cc: the group with the final URL. [1] http://linuxpicnic.org -- Brad Douglas KB8UYR/6 Address: 37.493,-121.924 / WGS84National Map Corps #TNMC-3785 GRASS GIS Project Steering ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Making better looking maps
I downloaded the Tiger 2006 data from ftp://aprs.tamu.edu/pub/TIGER_2006_SE/for Tennesse to start with. I got it to display just fine, but still leaves me with one question, how to make it look better? I know I can adjust the fonts, background color etc, but what I am really after is to have a color scheme ala Google maps with colored roads etc. Easy? Hard? Impossible? Nuts? I don't have a degree in GIS/Computer Science but I'm not afraid of either so go lightly on me :P 73's Stephen -- Stephen Brown - ARS K1LNX Johnson City, TN EM86uh ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?
On 9 Aug 2007, at 13:55, Tom Russo wrote: On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:48:25AM -0500, we recorded a bogon- computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: wow - replicated on the first try. 100% repeatable on my iMac, OS X 10.4.10, xastir 1.9.1, CVS as of a few days ago. no idea if it's an xastir thing, or an os X X11 thing. Not an OS X11 thing. Reproduced first time I tried on FreeBSD, too. Yah! Bernard 1 - Bugs 0 Where do I pick up my flyswat ;) If you want the crashlogs (I guess if you can all replicate it then there is no need) lemme know. bernard EI8FDB ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?
On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:48:25AM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > wow - replicated on the first try. 100% repeatable on my iMac, OS X > 10.4.10, xastir 1.9.1, CVS as of a few days ago. > > no idea if it's an xastir thing, or an os X X11 thing. Not an OS X11 thing. Reproduced first time I tried on FreeBSD, too. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?
wow - replicated on the first try. 100% repeatable on my iMac, OS X 10.4.10, xastir 1.9.1, CVS as of a few days ago. no idea if it's an xastir thing, or an os X X11 thing. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Bug: Right click and mouse usage?
Hi all, If this is known already, apologies...I looked through my archives, but couldn't find any mention of it. Platform: Model Name: Mac Model Identifier: MacBook2,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed:2.16 GHz System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218) Kernel Version: Darwin 8.10.1 Xastir V1.9.1 Compiled July 3rd. Its using: GraphicsMagick 1.1.7, ShapeLib (internal), PCRE , Dbfawk, rtree Motif 2.2.3, Issue: 1. When I open Xastir from commandline 2. Wait for objects to load, and then 3. Right click (apple click) on an object 4. The object options menu appears (center/station info/send message toetc) 5. If instead of using the mouse to select the command of my choice, I use the up/down arrow two things happen: a. the selection does not change (it stays on first options: Center) b. Xastir crashes. Window closes. The error in the commandline is: "Bus error". There is more information in the xastir.crash.log. If you woud like to see it, let me know and I will post it. It is reproducable each time. It happens with both locally created objects, stations, including mine. hope it helps, bernard EI8FDB ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
