Re: [Xastir] Compile issues
Alex and the Group .. Well Ive made some serious breakthroughs .. Ive managed to get xastir 1.90 working with raster maps of a fashion.. Ive had little time this last week to spend on this but last night I thought I would try and get ImageMagick to compile .. It didnt work which is no real suprise. Imagamagick seems to be a mother of all apps.. Quite oversized compared to xastir.. The whole package will become predominantly imagemagick with xastir being a small portion.. Anyway .. After the install of imagemagick failed I decided to carry on regardless and compile xastir .. Much to my suprise it compiled with imagemagick support.. And whats more it ran and displays raster maps.. Ive created a xastir 1.9.0 deb file using checkinstall but it wont run upon reboot and reinstall of the deb file... Remember this is a Live CD boot and I am not doing any backups on shutdown.. xastir has issues with libmagick.so.6 and cant find it. Looks like imagemagick again I think.. Just getting raster support was a major jaw dropper last night to say the least.. So some real progress I guess. For most people the failure of image magic to install but xastir compiling probably wouldnt matter. For me it is an issue because what I need to do is to make a deb file for image magic and include it in the Live CD bootup as a package .. So I need to correct the issues with the imagemagick install. Any hints are appreciated.. Here is the configure results. http://www.users.on.net/~wavetel/temp/imagemagick-config.gif It appears to be configuring with perl magic .. Anything else thats amiss may be shown here as well.. Do I need PerlMagick ?? Here are the errors encountered with the make install http://www.users.on.net/~wavetel/temp/imagemagick-make-install.gif It appears to have issues with Perl magick .. I have found some helpful hints on this web page http://studio.imagemagick.org/pipermail/magick-users/2003-September/010612.html Here are some things it says that may be relavant. Can you tell me what is relavant here ? > Preparing to build Imagemagick >You are going to need a few packages before you can build Imagemagick >Install ghostscript: gsfonts, gs, gs-common >Install perl development: libperl-dev >Install jpeg support: libjpeg62-dev >Install freetype support: libfreetype6-dev And what about this comment ? >./configure --with-gs-font-dir=/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts >The path to the ghostscript fonts is incorrect for Debian. So, when you Tony Hunt VK5AH ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered)"Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177
Somehow I don't think it's shapefile related. I need to talk to some of the guys at SPC in Norman. May be an excuse to go up there as I've got business across the hall from them at NSSL, too... As to the new shapefile of the hour problem, we've also identified problems with NWS GIS products they weren't even aware of. The "We" is a guy in training in the COMET program in Boulder, and me. We've been saying the same things in isolation for about the same period. Now we're getting more traction as a team. I'd really like to see us fix that problem before we see NWS issue too much more data with little spatial QC. Their intent is good but these guys are weather geeks who have also discovered GIS and may not have studied some of the subtleties... gerry David Flood wrote: Is this possibly related to the new Public Forecast Zones shapefile that has a valid date of 1 Aug 07? http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/html/pubzone.htm It's getting so they are releasing new shapefiles faster than we can keep up. Dave KD7MYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Russo Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:19 This is happening all over the place. I see it dozens of times a day. The weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating invalid characters in the multipoints. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177
I watched it for a couple of more days after it last came up and it started calming down. I'll try to carve some time out on Monday. What I need to identify if this is something with the latest build of AWIPS or WarnGen being fed into the system. gerry Tom Russo wrote: On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 02:12:09PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: Here is the offending line: JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of MaxConcern }d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable character?). Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is? This is happening all over the place. I see it dozens of times a day. The weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating invalid characters in the multipoints. Gerry was going to look into it, but got busy. The wxsvr.net pages documenting the protocol haven't changed, but obviously these weather sites are generating objects with multipoints that don't conform to the published protocols. -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
Don't know if we could include the database engine in Xastir, and that's rather contrary to the Unix Way of Doing Things, but we could facilitate portage, rpm's and deb's to cover most of the obvious ones with a postgres dependency, and a component to add the postgis patch. More'n likely my preference will be to target PostgreSQL 8.0 and PostGIS 0.9 (or higher in both cases) so anything newer would be acceptable. The program overhead for these is relatively light. I do not propose to support a tarball with dependencies. Slack is not where I'd like to go... gerry KC7ZRU wrote: If I'm understanding this right, that'd work for me!! Thanks for the discussion. As a 'drop in' part of xastir itself, I'd guess it'd make things quite a bit larger distribution wise, but sure would make the cross platform bit sweet. I'd be a bit concerned with crossing up users package managers (RPM/DEB) systems. No idea how or what may get over-written by their system's auto update. But, if it was 'part and parcel' of Xastir itself, it's own rapid deployment cycle would take care of updates and keep it separate from any other SQL server already running (even Postgres). Am I understanding this right or just getting concerned with things that don't need to be worried about. As always, those that are doing it - do it. The rest of us get to use it and appreciate it! 73! Gerry Creager wrote: I think that, for most installs, we could have a PostgreSQL package that could drop in and then a script that puts PostGIS on top, then import the basic schemas. I don't see it as more than a drop-in. gerry Jason Winningham wrote: On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote: Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't dictate that server and only that server can be used? I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions (PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation. I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than the rest of the xastir support packages. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: Navteq was bought -was- Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
Also said they intended to keep Navteq as a separate operating unit. This is a play to get first dibs on location-based services maps. I anticipate they'll still sell those to competitors, but that the price may go up a bit. If they go up too much someone else will fill the void. gerry Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote: Nokia bought Navteq for $6.8B US, either this week or last week. Now the fun begins 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:53:12PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: Google and Mapquest get their basemaps, if memory serves, from Navtech. No one seriously uses Tiger anymore for "real" applications. After USGS migrated to SDTS format Tiger was the only decent alternative, for some low value of decent. It was based on the original USGS maps, regardless of what Census told you. However, Census munges them for their purposes (census work, interestingly enough) and effectively renders them less than adequate for "real" mapping. In other words, "These maps should come with a consumer product safety warning." And this is the last year that TIGER/Line data will be released in that format. According to their web site, they will start releasing the Census maps in shapefile format --- but from the looks of it, these shapefiles will NOT be very useful for the purpose of drawing road maps. The dbf fields they plan to include are very clearly designed solely for census purposes, and they will be missing a lot of the data that we rely on for rendering. Lee Bengston wrote: On 10/5/07, Jason Winningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote: http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ Ah, this is more like it. At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels). Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing, vector maps based on TIGER data. Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the mac. Oh well, another one bites the dust. I wasn't able to get the roadnav deb package to install in andLinux, but I was able to compile it from source after installing wxwidgets from the ubuntu respository. Not a bad program - with the Tiger maps, they are labeling the highways better, and I like they way they display the minor streets at high zoom levels. However, it's the same old TigerMap problem at intermediate zoom levels - either no street labels at all or labels in a very tiny hard to read font depending on the exact zoom. The same view in Google, Mapquest, etc. shows the street names clearly. I don't care about looking really slick like Google does, but street labels that I can read are important. But the above is in the context of XASTIR and seeing APRS stations in certain views. Using Roadnav on a trip should be fine - can zoom in or out as needed - only need to track one vehicle. Overall I would say it's a pretty nice package. Lee-K5DAT Murphy, TX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] I did something stupid?
I shutdown xastir in error and now when I restart xastir it starts brings up a partial map I was running then stops . I am running Ubuntu 7.04 This is the error I am getting: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xd9f1a)! X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) Major opcode of failed request: 225 () Minor opcode of failed request: 0 Serial number of failed request: 892699 Current serial number in output stream: 892698 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/XASTIR/xastir$ Sure would appreciate help fixing what I messed up. Kim - AC7YY ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
I just put in the FC2 version on my F7 machine and backed out lesstif-devel. I ended up having to create a symlink for the shared libraries and all is running fine. Even the slider bars appear to be fine. 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Lee Bengston wrote: Thanks, I guess I won't be in a hurry to upgrade to 10.3. On 10/6/07, David Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are cleaned up. Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast. Dave KD7MYC -Original Message- *From:* Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45 *To:* David Flood *Cc:* xastir@xastir.org *Subject:* Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3 or another way to downgrade OpenMotif... ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
Thanks, I guess I won't be in a hurry to upgrade to 10.3. On 10/6/07, David Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other > stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are > cleaned up. Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen > since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast. > > Dave > KD7MYC > > -Original Message- > *From:* Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45 > *To:* David Flood > *Cc:* xastir@xastir.org > *Subject:* Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and > 10.3 > > or another way to downgrade OpenMotif... > > ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
RE: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are cleaned up. Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast. Dave KD7MYC -Original Message- From: Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45 To: David Flood Cc: xastir@xastir.org Subject: Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3 or another way to downgrade OpenMotif... ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
or another way to downgrade OpenMotif... you can use Yast (search for 'motif' to find the installed libraries) to uninstall the existing 2.3 version of openMotif, and then use the procedure below from the HowTo:OpenSUSE 10.2 in the Wiki to install the older version. Use Firefox to browse to the site below. ftp://ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.2/2.2.4/suse-9.1/ The two required files are as follows: openmotif-libs-2.2.4-0.1.i586.rpm openmotif-libs-devel-2.2.4-0.1.i586.rpm Select the first of the two OpenMotif files above while in FireFox, and the browser will give you the option of either saving to disk or installing with Zen Installer. Choose to install with Zen, and the file will be downloaded and installed automatically. The files need to be installed in the order they appear above. Auto-updates does tell me a new version is available, but I just ignore it. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
RE: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered)"Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177
Is this possibly related to the new Public Forecast Zones shapefile that has a valid date of 1 Aug 07? http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/html/pubzone.htm It's getting so they are releasing new shapefiles faster than we can keep up. Dave KD7MYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Russo Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:19 This is happening all over the place. I see it dozens of times a day. The weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating invalid characters in the multipoints. ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 02:12:09PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > Here is the offending line: > > JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of > MaxConcern }d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI > > The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable > character?). > > Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is? This is happening all over the place. I see it dozens of times a day. The weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating invalid characters in the multipoints. Gerry was going to look into it, but got busy. The wxsvr.net pages documenting the protocol haven't changed, but obviously these weather sites are generating objects with multipoints that don't conform to the published protocols. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177
Here is the offending line: JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of MaxConcern }d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable character?). Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is? 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3
Hello one and all, After upgrading to SUSE 10.3 (further pitfalls and gotcha's to follow later), I see that it still has the slider text bug in OpenMotif. However, there is an easy fix and I also verified that it works in 10.2 also. (I haven't put this in the Wiki yet, I only just got registered and I'm trying to make sense of the pages there already to make sure I put this info where people can find it). 1) Using the Installation Sources part of Yast, add these two locations using the Specify URL method: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/ http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/ 2) Once Yast is through digesting those, fire up the Software Management module of Yast and search for 'motif' (without the quotes) 3) Make sure that Auto-check is turned off (a checkbox at the bottom of the screen). 4) For each item that was found that has a checkmark next to it indicating that it's installed, do these steps:' 4a) Click on the item 4b) In the box below the list, click on the version tab 4c) Click in the little circle next to the lowest version available 5) Once you've done that for all the checked programs, they should have the little ying-yang symbol on them indicating a reinstall is required 6) Click on the Check button. This may indicate that some other software needs to be downgraded. This is OK 7) Click on OK or Finish for the change to take effect 8) Open a terminal window, do a full ./bootstrap;./configure;make clean;make in your source directory 9) Using the su or sudo of your choice, do a make install 10) Launch Xastir and you should be good to go The other good news is that I've seen very few updates to OpenMotif released once the CD is made but double check that you aren't upgrading it every time you launch Auto-Updates. Dave KD7MYC ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
If I'm understanding this right, that'd work for me!! Thanks for the discussion. As a 'drop in' part of xastir itself, I'd guess it'd make things quite a bit larger distribution wise, but sure would make the cross platform bit sweet. I'd be a bit concerned with crossing up users package managers (RPM/DEB) systems. No idea how or what may get over-written by their system's auto update. But, if it was 'part and parcel' of Xastir itself, it's own rapid deployment cycle would take care of updates and keep it separate from any other SQL server already running (even Postgres). Am I understanding this right or just getting concerned with things that don't need to be worried about. As always, those that are doing it - do it. The rest of us get to use it and appreciate it! 73! Gerry Creager wrote: I think that, for most installs, we could have a PostgreSQL package that could drop in and then a script that puts PostGIS on top, then import the basic schemas. I don't see it as more than a drop-in. gerry Jason Winningham wrote: On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote: Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't dictate that server and only that server can be used? I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions (PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation. I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than the rest of the xastir support packages. -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Navteq was bought -was- Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir
Nokia bought Navteq for $6.8B US, either this week or last week. Now the fun begins 73 from 807, Richard, N6NKO Tom Russo wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:53:12PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: Google and Mapquest get their basemaps, if memory serves, from Navtech. No one seriously uses Tiger anymore for "real" applications. After USGS migrated to SDTS format Tiger was the only decent alternative, for some low value of decent. It was based on the original USGS maps, regardless of what Census told you. However, Census munges them for their purposes (census work, interestingly enough) and effectively renders them less than adequate for "real" mapping. In other words, "These maps should come with a consumer product safety warning." And this is the last year that TIGER/Line data will be released in that format. According to their web site, they will start releasing the Census maps in shapefile format --- but from the looks of it, these shapefiles will NOT be very useful for the purpose of drawing road maps. The dbf fields they plan to include are very clearly designed solely for census purposes, and they will be missing a lot of the data that we rely on for rendering. Lee Bengston wrote: On 10/5/07, Jason Winningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote: http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/ Ah, this is more like it. At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels). Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing, vector maps based on TIGER data. Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the mac. Oh well, another one bites the dust. I wasn't able to get the roadnav deb package to install in andLinux, but I was able to compile it from source after installing wxwidgets from the ubuntu respository. Not a bad program - with the Tiger maps, they are labeling the highways better, and I like they way they display the minor streets at high zoom levels. However, it's the same old TigerMap problem at intermediate zoom levels - either no street labels at all or labels in a very tiny hard to read font depending on the exact zoom. The same view in Google, Mapquest, etc. shows the street names clearly. I don't care about looking really slick like Google does, but street labels that I can read are important. But the above is in the context of XASTIR and seeing APRS stations in certain views. Using Roadnav on a trip should be fine - can zoom in or out as needed - only need to track one vehicle. Overall I would say it's a pretty nice package. Lee-K5DAT Murphy, TX ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir -- Gerry Creager -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Texas Mesonet -- AATLT, Texas A&M University Cell: 979.229.5301 Office: 979.458.4020 FAX: 979.862.3983 Office: 1700 Research Parkway Ste 160, TAMU, College Station, TX 77843 ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir