Re: [Xastir] Compile issues

2007-10-06 Thread Tony Hunt
Alex and the Group ..

Well Ive made some serious breakthroughs .. Ive managed to get xastir 1.90
working with raster maps of a fashion.. Ive had little time this last week
to spend on this but last night I thought I would try and get ImageMagick to
compile .. It didnt work which is no real suprise. Imagamagick seems to be a
mother of all apps.. Quite oversized compared to xastir.. The whole package
will become predominantly imagemagick with xastir being a small portion..

Anyway .. After the install of imagemagick failed I decided to carry on
regardless and compile xastir .. Much to my suprise it compiled with
imagemagick support.. And whats more it ran and displays raster maps..

Ive created a xastir 1.9.0 deb file using checkinstall but it wont run upon
reboot and reinstall of the deb file... Remember this is a Live CD boot and
I am not doing any backups on shutdown.. xastir has issues with
libmagick.so.6 and cant find it. Looks like imagemagick again I think..

Just getting raster support was a major jaw dropper last night to say the
least.. So some real progress I guess. For most people the failure of  image
magic to install but xastir compiling probably wouldnt matter.
For me it is an issue because what I need to do is to make a deb file for
image magic and include it in the Live CD bootup as a package .. So I need
to correct the issues with the imagemagick install.

Any hints are appreciated.. Here is the configure results.
http://www.users.on.net/~wavetel/temp/imagemagick-config.gif
It appears to be configuring with perl magic .. Anything else thats amiss
may be shown here as well.. Do I need PerlMagick ??

Here are the errors encountered with the make install
http://www.users.on.net/~wavetel/temp/imagemagick-make-install.gif
It appears to have issues with Perl magick ..

I have found some helpful hints on this web page
http://studio.imagemagick.org/pipermail/magick-users/2003-September/010612.html

Here are some things it says that may be relavant. Can you tell me what is
relavant here ?
>  Preparing to build Imagemagick  

>You are going to need a few packages before you can build Imagemagick

>Install ghostscript:  gsfonts, gs, gs-common
>Install perl development:  libperl-dev
>Install jpeg support: libjpeg62-dev
>Install freetype support:  libfreetype6-dev


And what about this comment ?
>./configure --with-gs-font-dir=/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts
>The path to the ghostscript fonts is incorrect for Debian. So, when you


Tony Hunt  VK5AH

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Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered)"Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177

2007-10-06 Thread Gerry Creager
Somehow I don't think it's shapefile related.  I need to talk to some of 
the guys at SPC in Norman.  May be an excuse to go up there as I've got 
business across the hall from them at NSSL, too...


As to the new shapefile of the hour problem, we've also identified 
problems with NWS GIS products they weren't even aware of.  The "We" is 
a guy in training in the COMET program in Boulder, and me.  We've been 
saying the same things in isolation for about the same period.  Now 
we're getting more traction as a team.  I'd really like to see us fix 
that problem before we see NWS issue too much more data with little 
spatial QC.  Their intent is good but these guys are weather geeks who 
have also discovered GIS and may not have studied some of the subtleties...


gerry

David Flood wrote:

Is this possibly related to the new Public Forecast Zones shapefile that has
a valid date of 1 Aug 07?

http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/html/pubzone.htm

It's getting so they are releasing new shapefiles faster than we can keep
up.

Dave
KD7MYC

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Of Tom Russo
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:19

This is happening all over the place.  I see it dozens of times a day.  The
weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating
invalid characters in the multipoints. 


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Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177

2007-10-06 Thread Gerry Creager
I watched it for a couple of more days after it last came up and it 
started calming down.  I'll try to carve some time out on Monday.  What 
I need to identify if this is something with the latest build of AWIPS 
or WarnGen being fed into the system.


gerry

Tom Russo wrote:

On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 02:12:09PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:

Here is the offending line:

JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of MaxConcern 
}d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI

The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable character?). 


Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is?


This is happening all over the place.  I see it dozens of times a day.  The
weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating
invalid characters in the multipoints.  Gerry was going to look into it, but
got busy.

The wxsvr.net pages documenting the protocol haven't changed, but obviously
these weather sites are generating objects with multipoints that don't conform
to the published protocols.



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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-06 Thread Gerry Creager
Don't know if we could include the database engine in Xastir, and that's 
rather contrary to the Unix Way of Doing Things, but we could facilitate 
portage, rpm's and deb's to cover most of the obvious ones with a 
postgres dependency, and a component to add the postgis patch.


More'n likely my preference will be to target PostgreSQL 8.0 and PostGIS 
0.9 (or higher in both cases) so anything newer would be acceptable. 
The program overhead for these is relatively light.


I do not propose to support a tarball with dependencies.  Slack is not 
where I'd like to go...


gerry

KC7ZRU wrote:
If I'm understanding this right, that'd work for me!! Thanks for the 
discussion.


As a 'drop in' part of xastir itself, I'd guess it'd make things quite a 
bit larger distribution wise, but sure would make the cross platform bit 
sweet.


I'd be a bit concerned with crossing up users package managers (RPM/DEB) 
systems. No idea how or what may get over-written by their system's auto 
update. But, if it was 'part and parcel' of Xastir itself, it's own 
rapid deployment cycle would take care of updates and keep it separate 
from any other SQL server already running (even Postgres). Am I 
understanding this right or just getting concerned with things that 
don't need to be worried about.


As always, those that are doing it - do it. The rest of us get to use it 
and appreciate it!


73!

Gerry Creager wrote:


I think that, for most installs, we could have a PostgreSQL package 
that could drop in and then a script that puts PostGIS on top, then 
import the basic schemas.


I don't see it as more than a drop-in.

gerry

Jason Winningham wrote:


On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote:

Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a 
specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't dictate 
that server and only that server can be used?


I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions 
(PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation.




I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect 
the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than 
the rest of the xastir support packages.


-Jason
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Re: Navteq was bought -was- Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-06 Thread Gerry Creager
Also said they intended to keep Navteq as a separate operating unit. 
This is a play to get first dibs on location-based services maps.  I 
anticipate they'll still sell those to competitors, but that the price 
may go up a bit.  If they go up too much someone else will fill the void.


gerry

Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:


Nokia bought Navteq for $6.8B US, either this week or last week.

Now the fun begins

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO
Tom Russo wrote:
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:53:12PM -0500, we recorded a 
bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, 
containing:
 
 Google and Mapquest get their basemaps, if memory serves, from 
Navtech.  No  one seriously uses Tiger anymore for "real" 
applications.  After USGS  migrated to SDTS format Tiger was the only 
decent alternative, for some low  value of decent.  It was based on 
the original USGS maps, regardless of what  Census told you.  
However, Census munges them for their purposes (census  work, 
interestingly enough) and effectively renders them less than adequate 
 for "real" mapping.


 In other words, "These maps should come with a consumer product 
safety  warning."



And this is the last year that TIGER/Line data will be released in 
that format.

According to their web site, they will start releasing the Census maps in
shapefile format --- but from the looks of it, these shapefiles will 
NOT be
very useful for the purpose of drawing road maps.  The dbf fields they 
plan

to include are very clearly designed solely for census purposes, and they
will be missing a lot of the data that we rely on for rendering.

 

 Lee Bengston wrote:
   

On 10/5/07, Jason Winningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote:

   

http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/


Ah, this is more like it.  At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot
like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels).
Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing,
vector maps based on TIGER data.
  

Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to
try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the
mac.  Oh well, another one bites the dust.

I wasn't able to get the roadnav deb package to install in andLinux, 
but I

was able to compile it from source after installing wxwidgets from the
ubuntu respository.  Not a bad program - with the Tiger maps, they are
labeling the highways better, and I like they way they display the 
minor

streets at high zoom levels.
However, it's the same old TigerMap problem at intermediate zoom 
levels -
either no street labels at all or labels in a very tiny hard to read 
font
depending on the exact zoom.  The same view in Google, Mapquest, 
etc. shows

the street names clearly.  I don't care about looking really slick like
Google does, but street labels that I can read are important.
But the above is in the context of XASTIR and seeing APRS stations in
certain views.  Using Roadnav on a trip should be fine - can zoom in 
or out

as needed - only need to track one vehicle.  Overall I would say it's a
pretty nice package.
Lee-K5DAT
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[Xastir] I did something stupid?

2007-10-06 Thread ac7yy
I shutdown xastir in error and now when I restart xastir it starts 
brings up a partial map I was running then stops .


I am running Ubuntu 7.04
This is the error I am getting:

Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0xd9f1a)!
X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such 
operation)

 Major opcode of failed request:  225 ()
 Minor opcode of failed request:  0
 Serial number of failed request:  892699
 Current serial number in output stream:  892698
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/XASTIR/xastir$


Sure would appreciate help fixing what I messed up.

Kim - AC7YY
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Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread Richard Polivka, N6NKO
I just put in the FC2 version on my F7 machine and backed out 
lesstif-devel. I ended up having to create a symlink for the shared 
libraries and all is running fine. Even the slider bars appear to be fine.


73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Lee Bengston wrote:

Thanks, I guess I won't be in a hurry to upgrade to 10.3.


On 10/6/07, David Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

 Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other
stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are
cleaned up.  Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen
since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast.

Dave
KD7MYC

 -Original Message-
*From:* Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45
*To:* David Flood
*Cc:* xastir@xastir.org
*Subject:* Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and
10.3

or another way to downgrade OpenMotif...




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Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread Lee Bengston
Thanks, I guess I won't be in a hurry to upgrade to 10.3.


On 10/6/07, David Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other
> stuff now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are
> cleaned up.  Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen
> since it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast.
>
> Dave
> KD7MYC
>
>  -Original Message-
> *From:* Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45
> *To:* David Flood
> *Cc:* xastir@xastir.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and
> 10.3
>
> or another way to downgrade OpenMotif...
>
>
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RE: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread David Flood
Unfortunately just installing the rpm's won't work in 10.3 since other stuff
now depends on it so you have to use Yast so the dependencies are cleaned
up.  Oh and the first thing I do on any SUSE system is uninstall Zen since
it is a memory hog and cpu cycle stealer so I have to use Yast.
 
Dave
KD7MYC

-Original Message-
From: Lee Bengston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 15:45
To: David Flood
Cc: xastir@xastir.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3


or another way to downgrade OpenMotif...


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Re: [Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread Lee Bengston
or another way to downgrade OpenMotif...

you can use Yast (search for 'motif' to find the installed libraries) to
uninstall the existing 2.3 version of openMotif, and then use the procedure
below from the HowTo:OpenSUSE 10.2 in the Wiki to install the older version.

Use Firefox to browse to the site below.

 ftp://ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.2/2.2.4/suse-9.1/

The two required files are as follows:

 openmotif-libs-2.2.4-0.1.i586.rpm
 openmotif-libs-devel-2.2.4-0.1.i586.rpm

Select the first of the two OpenMotif files above while in FireFox, and the
browser will give you the option of either saving to disk or installing with
Zen Installer. Choose to install with Zen, and the file will be downloaded
and installed automatically. The files need to be installed in the order
they appear above.
Auto-updates does tell me a new version is available, but I just ignore it.
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RE: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered)"Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177

2007-10-06 Thread David Flood
Is this possibly related to the new Public Forecast Zones shapefile that has
a valid date of 1 Aug 07?

http://www.weather.gov/geodata/catalog/wsom/html/pubzone.htm

It's getting so they are releasing new shapefiles faster than we can keep
up.

Dave
KD7MYC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Tom Russo
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 14:19

This is happening all over the place.  I see it dozens of times a day.  The
weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating
invalid characters in the multipoints. 

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Re: [Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177

2007-10-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 02:12:09PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> Here is the offending line:
> 
> JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of 
> MaxConcern }d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI
> 
> The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable 
> character?). 
> 
> Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is?

This is happening all over the place.  I see it dozens of times a day.  The
weather services are obviously using some new program that is generating
invalid characters in the multipoints.  Gerry was going to look into it, but
got busy.

The wxsvr.net pages documenting the protocol haven't changed, but obviously
these weather sites are generating objects with multipoints that don't conform
to the published protocols.

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[Xastir] extract_multipoints: invalid value in (filtered) "Center of MaxConcern }d0`N M K M RAL {6JmAI": 0, -177

2007-10-06 Thread Richard Polivka
Here is the offending line:

JSJSMW>APRS,qAS,WXSVR:;JSJM1948z*062145z1851.60NM05606.00WWCenter of MaxConcern 
}d0`N�M�K�M�R�L�{6JmAI

The commas near the end were appearing as '?' but in black (unprintable 
character?). 

Is this an issue with WXSVR or with whomever JSJ is?

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO

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[Xastir] Easy fix for missing slider text in SUSE 10.2 and 10.3

2007-10-06 Thread David Flood
Hello one and all,

After upgrading to SUSE 10.3 (further pitfalls and gotcha's to follow
later), I see that it still has the slider text bug in OpenMotif.  However,
there is an easy fix and I also verified that it works in 10.2 also.

(I haven't put this in the Wiki yet, I only just got registered and I'm
trying to make sense of the pages there already to make sure I put this info
where people can find it).

1) Using the Installation Sources part of Yast, add these two locations
using the Specify URL method:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/

2) Once Yast is through digesting those, fire up the Software Management
module of Yast and search for 'motif' (without the quotes)

3) Make sure that Auto-check is turned off (a checkbox at the bottom of the
screen).

4) For each item that was found that has a checkmark next to it indicating
that it's installed, do these steps:'

4a) Click on the item

4b) In the box below the list, click on the version tab

4c) Click in the little circle next to the lowest version available

5) Once you've done that for all the checked programs, they should have the
little ying-yang symbol on them indicating a reinstall is required

6) Click on the Check button.  This may indicate that some other software
needs to be downgraded.  This is OK

7) Click on OK or Finish for the change to take effect

8) Open a terminal window, do a full ./bootstrap;./configure;make clean;make
in your source directory

9) Using the su or sudo of your choice, do a make install

10) Launch Xastir and you should be good to go

The other good news is that I've seen very few updates to OpenMotif released
once the CD is made but double check that you aren't upgrading it every time
you launch Auto-Updates.

Dave
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Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-06 Thread KC7ZRU
If I'm understanding this right, that'd work for me!! Thanks for the 
discussion.


As a 'drop in' part of xastir itself, I'd guess it'd make things quite a 
bit larger distribution wise, but sure would make the cross platform bit 
sweet.


I'd be a bit concerned with crossing up users package managers (RPM/DEB) 
systems. No idea how or what may get over-written by their system's auto 
update. But, if it was 'part and parcel' of Xastir itself, it's own 
rapid deployment cycle would take care of updates and keep it separate 
from any other SQL server already running (even Postgres). Am I 
understanding this right or just getting concerned with things that 
don't need to be worried about.


As always, those that are doing it - do it. The rest of us get to use it 
and appreciate it!


73!

Gerry Creager wrote:


I think that, for most installs, we could have a PostgreSQL package that 
could drop in and then a script that puts PostGIS on top, then import 
the basic schemas.


I don't see it as more than a drop-in.

gerry

Jason Winningham wrote:


On Oct 4, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Tate Belden wrote:

Is that even possible? To standardize on a generic 'SQL' so a 
specific set of features offered by any one SQL server don't dictate 
that server and only that server can be used?


I seem to recall that postgres has some specific GIS-type extensions 
(PostGIS?) that would be desirable for an xastir implementation.




I wouldn't worry too much about portability issues - I would expect 
the database engine to be at least as portable (if not more so) than 
the rest of the xastir support packages.


-Jason
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Navteq was bought -was- Re: [Xastir] Feature idea for Xastir

2007-10-06 Thread Richard Polivka, N6NKO


Nokia bought Navteq for $6.8B US, either this week or last week.

Now the fun begins

73 from 807,

Richard, N6NKO
Tom Russo wrote:

On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 10:53:12PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
  
 Google and Mapquest get their basemaps, if memory serves, from Navtech.  No 
 one seriously uses Tiger anymore for "real" applications.  After USGS 
 migrated to SDTS format Tiger was the only decent alternative, for some low 
 value of decent.  It was based on the original USGS maps, regardless of what 
 Census told you.  However, Census munges them for their purposes (census 
 work, interestingly enough) and effectively renders them less than adequate 
 for "real" mapping.


 In other words, "These maps should come with a consumer product safety 
 warning."



And this is the last year that TIGER/Line data will be released in that format.
According to their web site, they will start releasing the Census maps in
shapefile format --- but from the looks of it, these shapefiles will NOT be
very useful for the purpose of drawing road maps.  The dbf fields they plan
to include are very clearly designed solely for census purposes, and they
will be missing a lot of the data that we rely on for rendering.

  

 Lee Bengston wrote:


On 10/5/07, Jason Winningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 AM, I wrote:



http://roadnav.sourceforge.net/


Ah, this is more like it.  At a glance: maps - so what? looks a lot
like xastir (maybe they do a bit better job rendering labels).
Keep looking: vector maps, rendered by the app, included routing,
vector maps based on TIGER data.
  

Looks good, but I couldn't get enough data downloaded/converted to
try anything interested - got tired of it continuously bombing on the
mac.  Oh well, another one bites the dust.


I wasn't able to get the roadnav deb package to install in andLinux, but I
was able to compile it from source after installing wxwidgets from the
ubuntu respository.  Not a bad program - with the Tiger maps, they are
labeling the highways better, and I like they way they display the minor
streets at high zoom levels.
However, it's the same old TigerMap problem at intermediate zoom levels -
either no street labels at all or labels in a very tiny hard to read font
depending on the exact zoom.  The same view in Google, Mapquest, etc. shows
the street names clearly.  I don't care about looking really slick like
Google does, but street labels that I can read are important.
But the above is in the context of XASTIR and seeing APRS stations in
certain views.  Using Roadnav on a trip should be fine - can zoom in or out
as needed - only need to track one vehicle.  Overall I would say it's a
pretty nice package.
Lee-K5DAT
Murphy, TX
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