Re: [Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone

2007-11-20 Thread Chip Griffin

On Nov 20, 2007, at 21:32, James Ewen wrote:

Couple it to a Kenwood TH-D7 and the system looks like it might be  
complete.


Yup, or a plain old TH-K2AT. You are not going to gain anything by  
coupling it to a TH-D7. The TH-D7 will not be able to parse NMEA  
strings out of an audio encoded stream. The positioning system is  
most likely not compatible with APRS, so you wouldn't even be able  
to view the incoming data on the TH-D7.


No it won't work, but it brings up a great idea. The think I loathe  
about the D7 is that in order to use it for other than just a plain  
vanilla HT you have to add a GPS through some dongle. While only  
partially better, a microphone with a built-in GPS would be a  
definite improvement. Now if one could just create such an animal and  
a method of connecting it without a maze of wires (aka, tripping  
hazard), then I would be near the front of the line to order one (as  
well as a D7). I've always thought that Kenwood did it wrong not to  
build the D7 like the Garmin Rino (I've got a 120 & 130). How much  
sweeter it (D7) would be with an option for an internal GPS.  I  
dream of a truly portable APRS HT ... one without strings (wires)  
attached ...



73,
--de Chip (N1MIE) FN41bn

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Re: [Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone

2007-11-20 Thread James Ewen
On Nov 20, 2007 11:44 AM, Fred Hillhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Interesting product! It is unclear how it interfaces with a radio but it
> looks like custom cables are available.

>From what I read, this unit will interface through a standard
microphone connector. As such, it will have to act in a fashion
similar to Mic-e, doing a packet burst after transmission, and or
possibly on a time or distance based position reporting system.

>It doesn't look like it has any mapping built-in.

>From looking at a single screen shot, I agree, there is no mapping in sight.
Depending upon what is implemented in the GPS, you may or may not have
a base map. Reading into the information in the PDF, they mention
built in graphics for scenic waypoints, and also the ability to
download logged data. It sounds like you will at least get a screen
that can show you your own location and that of other similarily
equipped users. The PDF indicates that one user can see the location
of others without a PC. That could be as rudimentary as a text listing
of the lat/long, or perhaps an icon overlaid on a nice basemap. We
don't have enough information yet to know.

> Couple it to a Kenwood TH-D7 and the system looks like it might be complete.

Yup, or a plain old TH-K2AT. You are not going to gain anything by
coupling it to a TH-D7. The TH-D7 will not be able to parse NMEA
strings out of an audio encoded stream. The positioning system is most
likely not compatible with APRS, so you wouldn't even be able to view
the incoming data on the TH-D7.


> For what it is worth, I have used remote microphones on the job for about 8
> years. The microphones get a lot of abuse. I would rather affix a radio and
> GPS to my pack/jacket/etc and replace a cheap microphone as needed. But the
> product does look cool!

It is an interesting looking product, and can fill a niche market
nicely. People can purchase the product and add it to their existing
radios very easily. I wonder how long the unit lasts on a set up
batteries, and if the batteries go dead, can you still use the
microphone for voice use.

With enough capital, one could build a similar product that uses APRS,
and connects to any amateur handheld to give it APRS capabilities. The
RC-D710 provides a similar user interface for the mobile crowd, but
still requires an external GPS.

James
VE6SRV
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Re: [Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone

2007-11-20 Thread Jason Winningham


On Nov 20, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Fred Hillhouse wrote:


Interesting product!


yeah - the most interesting thing is that the radio looks exactly  
like the one Scott N1VG has listed for US$90.


$400 price tag, though?  Somebody's smoking crack, or looking to get  
a preferred gov't contract.



It is unclear how it interfaces with a radio but it
looks like custom cables are available.


I'm guessing burst on release of PTT?


I had trouble just clicking on the links so here they are directly.


Yeah, they definitely got ripped off on their web site - it's garbage.

Scott, did you see any of these whilst on your Asian tour? (does  
Scott read the xastir list?)


-Jason
kg4wsv


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RE: [Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone

2007-11-20 Thread Fred Hillhouse
Interesting product! It is unclear how it interfaces with a radio but it
looks like custom cables are available. It doesn't look like it has any
mapping built-in.

I had trouble just clicking on the links so here they are directly.
http://www.infinitygear.com/images/pdfs/P1000RadioENGLISH.pdf
http://www.infinitygear.com/images/pdfs/GPSMIC1english.pdf 

Couple it to a Kenwood TH-D7 and the system looks like it might be complete.
For what it is worth, I have used remote microphones on the job for about 8
years. The microphones get a lot of abuse. I would rather affix a radio and
GPS to my pack/jacket/etc and replace a cheap microphone as needed. But the
product does look cool!

The older Garmin GPS Vs are cheap on EBay and can provide decent mapping and
can display the location of other stations. And coupled to a Kenwood TH-D7
make a fine combination.

The TH-D7 can act as a tracker while providing voice operation on 440. You
also get texting as well.  For more information on this radio check out:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Kenwood_TH-D7/ in addition to the Kenwood
site. Check out the photos of the guy up on some mountain peak in the Yahoo
group!

The Tracker2 or Tinytrak4 with a dual band radio will give the same results.
The tracker are quite small. Overall hiking with them is not cumbersome. 
Xastir isn't needed for tracking in this case.

Best regards,
Fred





> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Tolbert
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:29
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> Subject: [Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone
> 
> http://www.infinitygear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.displ
ay&product_id=593
> 
> Has anyone looked at this GPS Microphone?  Does this product 
> with a 2m handheld radio all that is needed for APRS and 
> Xastir or is a tracker still needed somehow?
> 
> Ignorant questions abound .
> 
> Later. jt
> 
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[Xastir] Infinity GPS Microphone

2007-11-20 Thread Jim Tolbert

http://www.infinitygear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=593

Has anyone looked at this GPS Microphone?  Does this product with a 2m 
handheld radio all that is needed for APRS and Xastir or is a tracker 
still needed somehow?


Ignorant questions abound .

Later. jt

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Webster, WI 54893

715-866-4398 home office
715-349-8993 fax

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Re: [Xastir] Asus Eee PC anyone ?

2007-11-20 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, William McKeehan wrote:

> I have not found much information about the unit, like what version of Linux
> it is running and what is available. It's new, so by the time I'd be ready for
> it, I'm sure all of this stuff will be known and hacked.

Looks like they're well on their way.  Google search for

Asus eee pc linux

and you'll get a bunch of hits.

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Re: [Xastir] Asus Eee PC anyone ?

2007-11-20 Thread William McKeehan
I agree that 4GB is not a lot. They have an 8GB version coming soon.

I envision this as a replacement for my TH-D700 control head and my GPS
(display).

The only thing I would really miss would be turn-by-turn navigation; I'd have
to look at other Linux software to do that.

The keyboard may be small, but it would be quicker/easier to use than either
the D700 or the GPS (I currently have a Garmin GPS V).

I have not found much information about the unit, like what version of Linux
it is running and what is available. It's new, so by the time I'd be ready for
it, I'm sure all of this stuff will be known and hacked.
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KI4HDU
http://mckeehan.homeip.net

On Tue, November 20, 2007 11:20 am, Curt, WE7U wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, William McKeehan wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking this little computer would be a pretty nice fit a mobile APRS
>> system.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at it to see if Xastir can be made to work on it?
>
> 4GB of solid-state drive isn't much for storing maps.  I have a
> 6.4GB in my truck-mount PC and it's quite full.
>
> You'd have to hook up external storage through USB or the memory
> card slot probably.
>
> 900MHz isn't smoking either, but adequate if you don't mind waiting
> a bit.  800x480 pixel screen:  Non-standard but probably ok.  4/5's
> keyboard which would drive me nuts!
>
> I don't know if you'd get a complete development environment on that
> one, so you'd either have to give up some space to put it on there,
> or compile somewhere else (or use an external USB drive temporarily
> with the compile environment on it?).
>
> You'd also need to check if OpenMotif or Lesstif are available for
> that Linux, else compile from sources.
>
> I already see articles about installing Arch Linux or a complete
> custom Linux on it, so the hobbiest are already at work.
>
> --
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> "Windows:  Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
> The world DOES revolve around me:  I picked the coordinate system!

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Re: [Xastir] Asus Eee PC anyone ?

2007-11-20 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, William McKeehan wrote:

> I'm thinking this little computer would be a pretty nice fit a mobile APRS
> system.
>
> Has anyone looked at it to see if Xastir can be made to work on it?

4GB of solid-state drive isn't much for storing maps.  I have a
6.4GB in my truck-mount PC and it's quite full.

You'd have to hook up external storage through USB or the memory
card slot probably.

900MHz isn't smoking either, but adequate if you don't mind waiting
a bit.  800x480 pixel screen:  Non-standard but probably ok.  4/5's
keyboard which would drive me nuts!

I don't know if you'd get a complete development environment on that
one, so you'd either have to give up some space to put it on there,
or compile somewhere else (or use an external USB drive temporarily
with the compile environment on it?).

You'd also need to check if OpenMotif or Lesstif are available for
that Linux, else compile from sources.

I already see articles about installing Arch Linux or a complete
custom Linux on it, so the hobbiest are already at work.

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[Xastir] Asus Eee PC anyone ?

2007-11-20 Thread William McKeehan
I'm thinking this little computer would be a pretty nice fit a mobile APRS
system.

Has anyone looked at it to see if Xastir can be made to work on it?
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