Re: [Xastir] Maps

2008-03-10 Thread James Ewen
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Murry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> They won't load. Wondering if anyone else has problems.

When you say load, do you mean download from the Toporama server, or
load from your hard drive and display on screen?

The script for downloading from the net is written to pull ALL of
Canada. This can take a little more than 2 or 3 minutes. Okay, a lot
more than 2 or 3 minutes.

I used RadioMobile to define the are that I wanted to download, and
used it to pull the tiles from the server. I was able to get
RadioMobile working, and then go to bed, letting it pull all the 50K
tiles for Alberta. I then modified the script to ignore downloading,
and to simply generate the geo-reference files for each tile.

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Re: [Xastir] Maps

2008-03-10 Thread Tom ve7did
Works fine... perhaps you are trying to get to large an area and you are 
getting timed out.

On Monday 10 March 2008 08:57, Murry wrote:

On Monday 10 March 2008 08:57, Murry wrote:
> Would someone try the "canada topo 250k" and see what they get please, I
> can't get anything with this.

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Jason KG4WSV
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Alex Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>  have FTDI chips in them but it seems that the OEM
>  (which is actually ATEN) has gone to the Prolific
>  chips.  On the other hand, ATEN has the drivers
>  available on their website including source code for Linux.

the problem with Prolific (and most others) is the lack of a serial
number.  This will matter very deeply to you if you ever begin using
more than one at a time on a regular basis...

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Alex Carver

--- Alex Carver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The serial adapter from IOGear is based on the FTDI
> chipset as well (at least as far as I can tell from
> peering through the clear housing).  I've got five
> of
> them and all of them work just fine.

Ooops, guess not anymore.  The batch I have happens to
have FTDI chips in them but it seems that the OEM
(which is actually ATEN) has gone to the Prolific
chips.  On the other hand, ATEN has the drivers
available on their website including source code for Linux.


  

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Alex Carver

--- Jason KG4WSV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 3/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> >  I read on Keyspan's site that they were not
> supporting Ubuntu due to licensing issues.
> 
> That's unfortunate.  I haven't dealt with Ubuntu.
> 
> >  I had heard that folks had used the FTDI chipset
> with success, but it's challenging to find what
> chipset a given adapter usesan from the listings
> I've found so far.
> 
> That's no joke. The only places I've found an FTDI
> based adapter is
> BGMicro (I just checked them and they appear to be
> gone) and directly
> from FTDI.  If you need components to make your own,
> you can get a
> module from SparkFun, or get one in a molded cable
> with bare wires on
> the other end from FTDI directly or from various
> hobby electronics
> type places.

The serial adapter from IOGear is based on the FTDI
chipset as well (at least as far as I can tell from
peering through the clear housing).  I've got five of
them and all of them work just fine.


  

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Jason KG4WSV
On 3/10/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
>  I read on Keyspan's site that they were not supporting Ubuntu due to 
> licensing issues.

That's unfortunate.  I haven't dealt with Ubuntu.

>  I had heard that folks had used the FTDI chipset with success, but it's 
> challenging to find what chipset a given adapter usesan from the listings 
> I've found so far.

That's no joke. The only places I've found an FTDI based adapter is
BGMicro (I just checked them and they appear to be gone) and directly
from FTDI.  If you need components to make your own, you can get a
module from SparkFun, or get one in a molded cable with bare wires on
the other end from FTDI directly or from various hobby electronics
type places.

http://apple.clickandbuild.com/cnb/shop/ftdichip
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=718

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread ad7gt
Hi Jason,

I read on Keyspan's site that they were not supporting Ubuntu due to licensing 
issues.  I'd have to recompile my kernel to get the driver loaded, if I 
understand correctly.

I had heard that folks had used the FTDI chipset with success, but it's 
challenging to find what chipset a given adapter usesan from the listings I've 
found so far.

I'll be real interested to hear how the bluetooth adapter works out.  All other 
things being equal, that would be my choice.

I already have my GPS talking to xastir over bluetooth.

Chris p
W7clp
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From: "Jason KG4WSV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:30:19 
To:xastir@xastir.org
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices


USB/RS232 adapters are of varying quality/flakiness (depends on the
driver, really).  I've had the best luck with FTDI chipsets and
Keyspan.

The KPC shouldn't know or care if you use bluetooth, as it's a serial
port replacement.  I've actually got one of these on the way;
hopefully by the weekend I'll see how well it works with my TNC-X (as
I have currently broken my T2).

The TNC-X USB model just has a USB/RS232 adapter built in - it's not
like you have specific USB drivers for a TNC.  Unfortunately he chose
to use a custom vendor ID (at one time, at least), so you must get
customized drivers from him, instead of using the generic driver for
that chipset.  Not sure how that works out with linux.

Getting a linux based soundmodem interface to work correctly was the
toughest APRS task I've encountered.  YMMV.

If you go the USB/RS232 route, I'd make sure that the USB/RS232 device
I chose had a unique identifier, so that I could set up udev rules to
give unique names to each device - it makes diffrentiating between
TNC, GPS, second TNC, etc much easier.  I know FTDI devices have this
down quite well, and the the SiLabs CP2102 fail miserably.

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Jason KG4WSV
On 3/10/08, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But according to the page (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm) linked to
>  at the TNC-X site (http://www.tnc-x.com/USB4.htm), the custom Linux driver 
> was
>  only needed for 2.4 kernels, and it's stated that support is already
>  included in 2.6 kernels.

Well, I'm obviously out of date.  The first revision of his USB
adapter used a Linx chipset (you can see it in the picture on his web
site).  I didn't realize he switched to FTDI - I'll have to see if it
fits in my first generation TNC-X since FTDI is my favorite chipset
for this application.

-Jason
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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 01:50:23PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 01:30:19PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
> collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> > 
> > The TNC-X USB model just has a USB/RS232 adapter built in - it's not
> > like you have specific USB drivers for a TNC.  Unfortunately he chose
> > to use a custom vendor ID (at one time, at least), so you must get
> > customized drivers from him, instead of using the generic driver for
> > that chipset.  Not sure how that works out with linux.
> 
> I didn't realize this -- I had noted at one time that the chipset in the
> TNC-X was one that was supported under linux kernels, so just assumed it would
> be OK.  Obviously, if he's got some custom tweakage in there then perhaps it
> won't work.

But according to the page (http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm) linked to 
at the TNC-X site (http://www.tnc-x.com/USB4.htm), the custom Linux driver was 
only needed for 2.4 kernels, and it's stated that support is already 
included in 2.6 kernels.  Perhaps someone here actually owns one and uses it
with the USB module under Linux?

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 01:30:19PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> 
> The TNC-X USB model just has a USB/RS232 adapter built in - it's not
> like you have specific USB drivers for a TNC.  Unfortunately he chose
> to use a custom vendor ID (at one time, at least), so you must get
> customized drivers from him, instead of using the generic driver for
> that chipset.  Not sure how that works out with linux.

I didn't realize this -- I had noted at one time that the chipset in the
TNC-X was one that was supported under linux kernels, so just assumed it would
be OK.  Obviously, if he's got some custom tweakage in there then perhaps it
won't work.

Personally, I'd go with the USB/Serial adapters, and I can tell you that
the one sold by Purple Open Project works fine business.  http://pfranc.com/
The direct link to information about the adapter is 
http://www.pfranc.com/cgi-bin/P/USB_G4/garmin-GPS-cables

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 07:18:41PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing:
> Hi All,
> 
> So, I have my shiny new laptop, sadly lacking an rs-232 port.
> 
> My choices are:
> 
> Usb to rs-232 (known to be flakier than Grandma's pie crust)

I have had good luck with this option, as I have a laptop with 5 USB ports and
no serial port.  I have tried three different USB->Serial adapters and they
all worked Just Fine.  Two were Belkins and the third was one I bought from
the Purple Open Project (http://pfranc.com/)  I've had NO negative experiences
with any of them --- one of my Belkin's is an old F5U103 (no longer made) and
the other is one marketed as a "PDA adapter" at local office supply stores.
The Purple Open Project one is the one I use most -- for no particular
reason.

> Bluetooth rs-232 adapter (unknown if one would work with a kpc-3+)

I have had luck with this one, too --- but your milage may vary.  I found it
an expensive option, and a little flakey.  I used the "CTR BlueLync" adapter
kit and BlueRadios "BlueSMiRF" module to do the deed (the module plugs
in to the adapter).  I bought them from 
http://ctr-remote.home.att.net/CTR-BlueLync.htm and 
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php, respectively.  I say it's
flakey because despite testing it numerous times when its reliability 
didn't matter, on ONE occasion when I actually needed it to work, the 
bluetooth dongle on my computer lost connection to the bluetooth adapter in 
the CTR-BlueLync after ten minutes even though it was separated by only a few 
feet in my truck --- possibly due to RFI? --- and wouldn't reestablish contact 
without a reboot.  I have not tried to use it since, as the USB/Serial options
work Just Fine for me, every time.

SparkFun also sells an assembled bluetooth serial modem (for a hefty price)
that should work as well as (and cost about as much as) the combination
of the BlueLync and BlueSMiRF modules.

I've no experience with the serial port add-on cards or TNC-X USB option
(although the USB/Serial adapter chipset that's used in TNC-X's USB module is 
one that is supported in recent vintages of Linux kernels (recent meaning in 
the last couple of years), so it should work --- it would appear to Linux like
a USB->Serial adapter).

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Re: [Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread Jason KG4WSV
USB/RS232 adapters are of varying quality/flakiness (depends on the
driver, really).  I've had the best luck with FTDI chipsets and
Keyspan.

The KPC shouldn't know or care if you use bluetooth, as it's a serial
port replacement.  I've actually got one of these on the way;
hopefully by the weekend I'll see how well it works with my TNC-X (as
I have currently broken my T2).

The TNC-X USB model just has a USB/RS232 adapter built in - it's not
like you have specific USB drivers for a TNC.  Unfortunately he chose
to use a custom vendor ID (at one time, at least), so you must get
customized drivers from him, instead of using the generic driver for
that chipset.  Not sure how that works out with linux.

Getting a linux based soundmodem interface to work correctly was the
toughest APRS task I've encountered.  YMMV.

If you go the USB/RS232 route, I'd make sure that the USB/RS232 device
I chose had a unique identifier, so that I could set up udev rules to
give unique names to each device - it makes diffrentiating between
TNC, GPS, second TNC, etc much easier.  I know FTDI devices have this
down quite well, and the the SiLabs CP2102 fail miserably.

-Jason
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[Xastir] Tnc, connection choices

2008-03-10 Thread ad7gt
Hi All,

So, I have my shiny new laptop, sadly lacking an rs-232 port.

My choices are:

Usb to rs-232 (known to be flakier than Grandma's pie crust)

Expresscard 34 rs-232 (aesthetically and mechanically unpleasing, as the port 
is on the front beneath the keyboard)

Bluetooth rs-232 adapter (unknown if one would work with a kpc-3+)

Or

A tnc-x with usb interface.

Or 

Struggle with soundmodem and free myself from hardware tnc's.

The laptop is a Dell Vostro 1400 running Ububtu Gutsy.

Thoughts?

73

W7clp
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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-10 Thread Gerry Creager
Please try the WMSRadar selection.  I found an error that'd been 
propagated to my server and I think it's fixed now.


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:

I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please keep things 
simple for me.

I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I adjust the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground clutter) moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter centered but the edge of a recent storm was real far off. 


So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the image is indeed 
better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north of their actual location.

What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to serve as a 
remote station for Skywarn operations if something happens at the NWS so I need 
the radar to be as accurate as possible.

Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not much of a 
programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.

Thank you for your help,

73s
Jim KE5MKT


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[Xastir] Maps

2008-03-10 Thread Murry
Would someone try the "canada topo 250k" and see what they get please, I 
can't get anything with this.

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[Xastir] Sub-grid Shape Files for Individual Grid Squares

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Germann
As promised, I've made available sub-grid shape (.SHP) files for each of
the 32,400 grid squares.  These can be found at
http://www.n1ics.net/node/15 under Maidnehead shape files.

They are organized in a tree based on the first 4 characters of the grid
square, for easy browsing and download.

I have created a SourceForge project to host the entire collection of
shape files.  I will announce the URL for that once it is approved.

73's de N1ICS

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Re: [Xastir] WMSRadar and net acquired .gif

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Germann
Attached is a .geo file I created for the Iowa State radar composite.  
This seems to work better for me.


Gerry, if you want some help, send me the info off list.

EKG


Gerry Creager wrote:
I do the radar mosaic and something's definately off with that.  I've 
been troubleshooting but I don't have an answer.


I'll try a new approach tomorrow or Tuesday for this.

Send me your appropriate RIDGE .geo for MAF.  I'll compare it to what 
I have and see if we can get it better...


Also: Why N0Z?  I prefer N0R for base reflectivity (from a sorta 
professional view).


Anyone want to work with me to make individual Level II sites 
available?  I haven't time to script up the .geo's but can provide the 
data on site image dimensions...


gerry

Jim Morgan wrote:
I need some help. I am new to Linux and Xastir both so please keep 
things simple for me.


I noticed today that the radar that I load from the website 
www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/RadarImg/NOZ/MAF_NOZ_0.gif is off by several 
miles. I am talking in the neighborhood of 50-75 miles. When I adjust 
the size of the .gif the center of the radar (the ground clutter) 
moves around as I change the size. I had the ground clutter centered 
but the edge of a recent storm was real far off.
So I tried the WMSRadar on my Xastir and discovered that the image is 
indeed better but it shows the storms about 120 miles north of their 
actual location.


What setting(s) do I have wrong? The purpose of this set-up is to 
serve as a remote station for Skywarn operations if something happens 
at the NWS so I need the radar to be as accurate as possible.


Oh the technical stuff-- Ubuntu 6.06 and Xastir 1.71. I am not much 
of a programmer so this is all real close to OEM specs.


Thank you for your help,

73s
Jim KE5MKT


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USA
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#US Composite Radar image (Unidata/LDM/Gempak) n5jxs 2003 08 25
# Modified for accuracy, comments:  n5jxs 2004 03 15 1400UTC
#
# Modified by N1ICS to use Iowa State Mesonet server instead of Texas A&M
#   2007-Oct-18

# If you want to get a different image-type, change the selection
# below by removing the '#' from the front of the URL, and placing
# a '#' before all URLs for image-types you don't want.
# I don't know what will happen if you have multiple URLs selected.
#URL http://mesonet.tamu.edu/gemdata/images/radar/01_USrad.png

URL http://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/data/gis/images/unproj/USCOMP/n0r_0.png

#   X   Y   LongLat
TIEPOINT0  0-126.0  50.0
TIEPOINT59992599-66.0   24.0
IMAGESIZE 6000 2600

# Map Extent (50, -126) upper left to (24, -66) lower right (.01 degree per 
pixel)

#
# REFRESH tells your program just how often to retrieve the radar
# image.  Images are recreated on the server every 6 minutes (720
# sec).
REFRESH 360

# Transparent tells the program and image handling software what
# color is to be considered transparent.  In this case, it's white
# and valid for a 24-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0xff
# The following should work for a 16-bit color map.
#TRANSPARENT 0x0
# The following should work for all color maps, now.
#TRANSPARENT 0x0
TRANSPARENT 0x0

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