Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Richard Polivka, N6NKO wrote:

> Possibly, is there an issue with either Lesstif or OpenMotif?

I would suspect Lesstif over Motif if it came down to those two, or
the Gnome window manager.

I run OpenSuSE-10.3 with FVWM2 as a window manager and don't see any
such lockups.  I know that's not very close to the problem system
reported, but it's what I have to work with/debug with.

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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Ray Wells

Alex Carver wrote:


--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Richard Polivka, N6NKO  wrote:

 

From: Richard Polivka, N6NKO 
Subject: Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system
To: "Ray Wells" 
Cc: "Alex Carver" 
Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 10:18 PM

Possibly, is there an issue with either Lesstif or
OpenMotif?

73 from a very soggy 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Ray Wells wrote:
   


I run xastir on Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-3 and
 

KDE desktop. I 
   


don't normally run with bulletins on and I
 

don't do much map swapping. 
   


I haven't observed any problems.

Xastir runs about 0.3% processor, rising to 0.7%
 


occasionally.
   


I've just turned bulletins on to see what happens.

Ray vk2tv
 




I look forward to seeing what happens with your bulletins turned on.

As for Tif, I'm using lesstif on this system and, as far as I can tell, 
nothing's wrong.  The typical missing slider labels symptom of a broken Tif 
package is not present.  I see the labels just fine.

I'm only using Gnome right now since that's what installed.  The fresh install 
is because the mouse was completely dead and nothing I tried would fix it.


 
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So far nothing, no bulletins either.

I also use lesstif.

I've never liked Gnome so I installed KDE and weeded out many Gnome 
components.


There is now a Debian iso image that installs KDE by default - 
debian-40r3-i386-kde-CD-1 - which I've installed on a test machine but 
since it's not "live" yet I don't know what it will/won't do.


My in-service system was Sarge initially until I did the upgrade to Etch 
so it could be a bit of a hybrid in some respects.


Ray vk2tv
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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Alex Carver
--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Richard Polivka, N6NKO  wrote:

> From: Richard Polivka, N6NKO 
> Subject: Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system
> To: "Ray Wells" 
> Cc: "Alex Carver" 
> Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 10:18 PM
> Possibly, is there an issue with either Lesstif or
> OpenMotif?
> 
> 73 from a very soggy 807,
> 
> Richard, N6NKO
> 
> 
> Ray Wells wrote:
> > I run xastir on Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-3 and
> KDE desktop. I 
> > don't normally run with bulletins on and I
> don't do much map swapping. 
> > I haven't observed any problems.
> >
> > Xastir runs about 0.3% processor, rising to 0.7%
> occasionally.
> >
> > I've just turned bulletins on to see what happens.
> >
> > Ray vk2tv


I look forward to seeing what happens with your bulletins turned on.

As for Tif, I'm using lesstif on this system and, as far as I can tell, 
nothing's wrong.  The typical missing slider labels symptom of a broken Tif 
package is not present.  I see the labels just fine.

I'm only using Gnome right now since that's what installed.  The fresh install 
is because the mouse was completely dead and nothing I tried would fix it.


  
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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Richard Polivka, N6NKO

Possibly, is there an issue with either Lesstif or OpenMotif?

73 from a very soggy 807,

Richard, N6NKO


Ray Wells wrote:

Alex Carver wrote:


--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Curt, WE7U wrote:

 


The main thread does all the graphical stuff.  Perhaps the
new
bulletin popping up is causing a problem with the map
updating, or
perhaps there's some interaction with your window
manager as far as
the new bulleting coming up.

Remind us what OS, version, and window manager you're
using.  Maybe
somebody else has the same setup and can say whether they
do/don't
have the same problem.
  


It's a fresh install of Debian Etch using kernel image 2.6.18-6 and 
the current WM is Gnome version 2.14.3.6.  The system is mostly stock 
right off the install CD and the online repositories.  I've only 
removed applications that aren't needed on the machine which 
installed by default (games, OpenOffice, etc.).  Xastir was compiled 
from source obtained via CVS.


Everything else functions normally.  The WM doesn't stop running and 
I can manipulate other applications as if nothing's happening.  
Xastir is just simply stuck doing something.



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I run xastir on Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-3 and KDE desktop. I 
don't normally run with bulletins on and I don't do much map swapping. 
I haven't observed any problems.


Xastir runs about 0.3% processor, rising to 0.7% occasionally.

I've just turned bulletins on to see what happens.

Ray vk2tv


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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Ray Wells

Alex Carver wrote:


--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Curt, WE7U wrote:

 


The main thread does all the graphical stuff.  Perhaps the
new
bulletin popping up is causing a problem with the map
updating, or
perhaps there's some interaction with your window
manager as far as
the new bulleting coming up.

Remind us what OS, version, and window manager you're
using.  Maybe
somebody else has the same setup and can say whether they
do/don't
have the same problem.
   



It's a fresh install of Debian Etch using kernel image 2.6.18-6 and the current 
WM is Gnome version 2.14.3.6.  The system is mostly stock right off the install 
CD and the online repositories.  I've only removed applications that aren't 
needed on the machine which installed by default (games, OpenOffice, etc.).  
Xastir was compiled from source obtained via CVS.

Everything else functions normally.  The WM doesn't stop running and I can 
manipulate other applications as if nothing's happening.  Xastir is just simply 
stuck doing something.


 
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I run xastir on Debian Etch with kernel 2.6.18-3 and KDE desktop. I 
don't normally run with bulletins on and I don't do much map swapping. I 
haven't observed any problems.


Xastir runs about 0.3% processor, rising to 0.7% occasionally.

I've just turned bulletins on to see what happens.

Ray vk2tv


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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Curt, WE7U
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Alex Carver wrote:

> Top says Xastir is using 100% CPU and the last thing it was about
> to do is refresh the maps.  There is no ImageMagick process
> running in the background.  However, there is a bulletin window up
> (it opened on receipt of two bulletins) but I can't close the
> window (though I can move it) and I can't do anything with the
> Xastir main window.
> 
> This is the same condition I've seen before.  The maps were going
> to (or in process of) refreshing but a bulletin window was up.
> I'll have to try to disable the bulletin window (I forget where)
> and see what happens there.

The main thread does all the graphical stuff.  Perhaps the new
bulletin popping up is causing a problem with the map updating, or
perhaps there's some interaction with your window manager as far as
the new bulleting coming up.

Remind us what OS, version, and window manager you're using.  Maybe
somebody else has the same setup and can say whether they do/don't
have the same problem.

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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Alex Carver
--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Curt, WE7U wrote:

> The main thread does all the graphical stuff.  Perhaps the
> new
> bulletin popping up is causing a problem with the map
> updating, or
> perhaps there's some interaction with your window
> manager as far as
> the new bulleting coming up.
> 
> Remind us what OS, version, and window manager you're
> using.  Maybe
> somebody else has the same setup and can say whether they
> do/don't
> have the same problem.

It's a fresh install of Debian Etch using kernel image 2.6.18-6 and the current 
WM is Gnome version 2.14.3.6.  The system is mostly stock right off the install 
CD and the online repositories.  I've only removed applications that aren't 
needed on the machine which installed by default (games, OpenOffice, etc.).  
Xastir was compiled from source obtained via CVS.

Everything else functions normally.  The WM doesn't stop running and I can 
manipulate other applications as if nothing's happening.  Xastir is just simply 
stuck doing something.


  
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Re: [Xastir] Lockups on a fresh system

2008-06-08 Thread Alex Carver
Ok, no lockups when I disabled the map so I reenabled the map on Friday.  It 
ran just fine all weekend long...until today.

Top says Xastir is using 100% CPU and the last thing it was about to do is 
refresh the maps.  There is no ImageMagick process running in the background.  
However, there is a bulletin window up (it opened on receipt of two bulletins) 
but I can't close the window (though I can move it) and I can't do anything 
with the Xastir main window.

This is the same condition I've seen before.  The maps were going to (or in 
process of) refreshing but a bulletin window was up.  I'll have to try to 
disable the bulletin window (I forget where) and see what happens there.

More thoughts?


  
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