Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Sun, 24 Dec 2006, Tom Russo wrote: > > Just the instance of Xastir that is running. There's no terminal > > window to have a look at to see what error might have happened. Is it possible that it's the segfault I fixed about two weeks ago? That was a libcurl problem that would cause a segfault under certain conditions. I don't know how new the code is that you're running, but perhaps you're running with internet-based radar maps and triggering this condition? > > This is the first I have made use of the rtree function, and indeed it > > appears to do a very good job of speeding up the processing of > > shapefiles. My road .shp file is 42 MB in size, and the associated > > .dbf file is 504 MB in size, yet Xastir can render a map in only a few > > seconds. > > I'm glad to hear that. Hope everyone has that experience now that it's the > default. I think the only people that would wish to disable rtree are those that run Xastir on severely memory-limited machines. -- Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com http://www.eskimo.com/~archer Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U. The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!" ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 02:50:06PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > On 12/24/06, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I've managed to have it die more than a couple times. > > > >What dies? The whole virtual machine? Xastir? > > Just the instance of Xastir that is running. There's no terminal > window to have a look at to see what error might have happened. You can get a terminal window from the Applications->System Tools menu. If you open one of those and start xastir in it with "xastir &" you'll be able to get at your console output. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Sun, Dec 24, 2006 at 02:50:06PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > On 12/24/06, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I've managed to have it die more than a couple times. > > > >What dies? The whole virtual machine? Xastir? > > Just the instance of Xastir that is running. There's no terminal > window to have a look at to see what error might have happened. I've > managed to lose access to the ethernet pass through as well. Making > changes on the Windows side kills the connection, and I have not > figured out how to refresh the connection from within the VMWare > appliance. Bleah. That's annoying. I'll see if I can figure it out this week. I usually don't have a windows machine running xastir (I've wiped the hard drive on my windows laptop and installed linux on it, with windows running in a virtual machine for the occasional video game), but I've got one set up now running the virtual machine. Restarting the virtual machine's networking might be as easy as following the instructions that vmware-config-tools.pl outputs at the end of its run. But I am not sure of that. > >> I also can't seem to get it to use shapefiles. > > > >Check file permissions. > > Bingo! I forgot about file permissions! That was indeed the root of my > problems. > > I have added a small section to the Wiki under Adding Maps in the > VMWare: How-to reminding people of this fact. Great! > This is the first I have made use of the rtree function, and indeed it > appears to do a very good job of speeding up the processing of > shapefiles. My road .shp file is 42 MB in size, and the associated > .dbf file is 504 MB in size, yet Xastir can render a map in only a few > seconds. > > Before rtree, I cut the file into Maidenhead gridsquare chunks. This > allowed Xastir to only process tiles within the viewing area. rtree > appears to work faster on the huge single file. I'm glad to hear that. Hope everyone has that experience now that it's the default. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On 12/24/06, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've managed to have it die more than a couple times. What dies? The whole virtual machine? Xastir? Just the instance of Xastir that is running. There's no terminal window to have a look at to see what error might have happened. I've managed to lose access to the ethernet pass through as well. Making changes on the Windows side kills the connection, and I have not figured out how to refresh the connection from within the VMWare appliance. > I also can't seem to get it to use shapefiles. Check file permissions. Bingo! I forgot about file permissions! That was indeed the root of my problems. I have added a small section to the Wiki under Adding Maps in the VMWare: How-to reminding people of this fact. This is the first I have made use of the rtree function, and indeed it appears to do a very good job of speeding up the processing of shapefiles. My road .shp file is 42 MB in size, and the associated .dbf file is 504 MB in size, yet Xastir can render a map in only a few seconds. Before rtree, I cut the file into Maidenhead gridsquare chunks. This allowed Xastir to only process tiles within the viewing area. rtree appears to work faster on the huge single file. Now I have to define the dbfawk file for the Canadian shapefiles once again. I did this once before, but never got things looking decent before the file got eaten by a hard disk failure. Perhaps this time I will save a copy offsite... Seasons Greetings to all! James VE6SRV ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 10:23:23PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > Has anyone played much with the VMWare appliance version of Xastir? I know that at least one person here (who has never, ever posted) is using it regularly instead of cygwin. Perhaps he'll speak up? > I've managed to have it die more than a couple times. What dies? The whole virtual machine? Xastir? > I also can't > seem to get it to use shapefiles. The help dialog shows that shapefile > support is built in, but after putting shapefiles into the map > directory, and reindexing I show no maps beyond what came with the > appliance. Check file permissions. I had one person tell me he needed to change all the permissions in the maps directory to world readable to get it to work. The following command would do the trick: sudo chmod -R a+rX /usr/local/share/xastir/maps (the capital X in "a+rX" is important and means something different from the lower case) I don't know exactly why the new maps would get put there with the wrong permissions, but apparently it does happen. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
Has anyone played much with the VMWare appliance version of Xastir? I've managed to have it die more than a couple times. I also can't seem to get it to use shapefiles. The help dialog shows that shapefile support is built in, but after putting shapefiles into the map directory, and reindexing I show no maps beyond what came with the appliance. James VE6SRV ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Dec 18, 2006, at 9:30 PM, James Ewen wrote: Jason's server rocks! I was able to pull down the file at an average of 3.5 Mbps, with peaks to 4.5 Mbps. If I were on a fast connection, I wonder what I could have done! Glad to hear it - I can't remember the last time I heard something positive about out network. |: In the interest if full disclosure, I'm at a .edu and all the students have gone home for break. Normally I have to share the bandwidth with several thousand students who are constantly downloading movies and music (or so the network people would have us believe. :) -Jason kg4wsv ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Mon, Dec 18, 2006 at 08:30:50PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > The Wiki instructions fall into the usual *nix trap. Rather than > simple straight forward instructions, they fall off track talking > about options available. You need to read a couple paragraphs, skip a > few, read another, skip 2 more, and then all of the sudden you're at > "Hey, I'm done". I've added a pair of quick-start guides to the page for those who don't want to use the navigation links to hop around. At the very least it will give the user an idea of the rough process they'll be following. I also rearranged sections so they flow more in the order of the quick start guides. Feel free to improve the documentation as you see fit. After the number of hours I've spent refining both the VM and the documentation of it, I'm pretty much tapped out. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On 12/2/06, Tom Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks to Jason Winningham, the Xastir virtual machine I made for use in VMware player is now available for download I was finally able to get a chance to download and install the Xastir virtual machine... Jason's server rocks! I was able to pull down the file at an average of 3.5 Mbps, with peaks to 4.5 Mbps. If I were on a fast connection, I wonder what I could have done! The Wiki instructions fall into the usual *nix trap. Rather than simple straight forward instructions, they fall off track talking about options available. You need to read a couple paragraphs, skip a few, read another, skip 2 more, and then all of the sudden you're at "Hey, I'm done". Simple linear instructions with no branches are what is required to make these things easy to follow. After the fact, you can add in all the options, and let people know what they can do if desired. The Cygwin instructions are written in a very linear fashion, and are very easy to follow. I was able to follow the VMWare instructions, but had to skip around a bit to get the proper path. I had a bit of trouble with getting access to the ethernet device, but that was my own fault. I had disabled the VMWare network devices manually attempting to solve a networking problem in the week between VMWare download and the Xastir appliance download. I did manage to get the ethernet screwed up again, which I have not yet determined if it was a one time problem, or a repeatable event. I also discovered that one needs to disable any screen savers in the VMWare world. My CPU cycles maxed out on me, which I was able to track down to the VMWare process. Switching back into it, I found the "radar screen" screen saver merrily chugging along. Killing the screen saver brought the CPU cycles down a whole lot, but about that time is when the ethernet broke. For being a minimalist desktop environment, Xubuntu presents a nice user interface! James VE6SRV ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
Re: [Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:50:46AM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> flavor, containing: > Thanks to Jason Winningham, the Xastir virtual machine I made for use in > VMware player is now available for download > > Details are in the Wiki: > > http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:VMware John Ronan has also provided download bandwidth for the other side of the puddle. This detail, among others, is now on the Wiki. I've been expanding the VMware documentation on the wiki as much as I can in limited time, and I think it gives a fairly complete picture of how to get Xastir started on Windows under VMware player in a short time. If you have any interest in running Xastir on windows without Cygwin, please check it out. I'm keenly interested in the sorts of glitches that windows users have when using it -- we already found some and I've tried to document troubleshooting and work-arounds on the Wiki. I converted one former local xastir user from Cygwin to VMware on Thursday. He reports that the VMware version is markedly faster on his machines than Cygwin ever was, and much less of a pain to use --- map redraws are notably faster. Also, by using Xastir under Linux through VMware, he now has access to GPS track downloads through GPSMan --- since gpsmanshp won't work under Cygwin, this is the first time he's been able to get at that capability. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
[Xastir] Xastir virtual machine now available for download
Thanks to Jason Winningham, the Xastir virtual machine I made for use in VMware player is now available for download Details are in the Wiki: http://www.xastir.org/wiki/index.php/HowTo:VMware I have added some specific documentation of the Xastir virtual machine to WB8NUT's general VMware help. -- Tom RussoKM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick ___ Xastir mailing list Xastir@xastir.org http://lists.xastir.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/xastir
