Re: [Xen-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - Re: OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015

2015-09-11 Thread Kevin Davis
> 
> 
> On 10/09/2015 16:24, Kevin Davis wrote:
> > Further leading me to guess that any actual use of those
> > implementations could lead to you actually needing to hire a real
> > attorney and not one that you find on YouTube.
> 
> The good thing is that attorneys have already figured it out.  IBM figured out
> a few years ago how to work around Microsoft's patents, and that's how
> FAT32 (and more specifically long file names) are implemented in Linux.

Ah.  I wasn't in the room when they figured it out.  And I've never seen their 
written opinion.  Is it documented somewhere?

>From my viewpoint, I wouldn't worry too much if I was an IBM attorney either.  
>I can only imagine the cross licensing agreements between Microsoft and IBM.  
>Was this opinion part of OSDL?

Thanks,
Kevin

> 
> Paolo

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Re: [Xen-devel] [Qemu-devel] [edk2] EDK II & GPL - Re: OVMF BoF @ KVM Forum 2015

2015-09-11 Thread Kevin Davis
> 
> On 09/10/2015 08:14 PM, Kevin Davis wrote:
> >>
> > Ah.  I wasn't in the room when they figured it out.  And I've never seen
> their written opinion.  Is it documented somewhere?
> 
> which in turn leads to this FAQ:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20121116185559/http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/
> 26/314
> 
> So reading between the lines, IBM's opinion was that implementing a
> workaround that operates FAT in such a way that it never uses a common
> namespace was sufficient to avoid any legal questions about whether that
> code conflicts with a patent on a common namespace, sidestepping the
> longer question of any legal battle over the patent itself.
> 

Of course I have no comment on the legal opinion other than it is interesting 
and nice to have a pointer to it.

Thanks for the pointers

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