Re: [Xen-devel] A good way to speed up the xl destroy time(guest page scrubbing)

2014-12-08 Thread Jan Beulich
 On 07.12.14 at 14:43, bob@oracle.com wrote:

 On 12/05/2014 08:24 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
 On 05.12.14 at 11:00, bob@oracle.com wrote:
 5. Potential workaround
 5.1 Use per-cpu list in idle_loop()
 Delist a batch of pages from heap_list to a per-cpu list, then scrub the
 per-cpu list and free back to heap_list.

 But Jan disagree with this solution:
 You should really drop the idea of removing pages temporarily.
 All you need to do is make sure a page being allocated and getting
 simultaneously scrubbed by another CPU won't get passed to the
 caller until the scrubbing finished.
 
 So you don't mention any downsides to this approach. If there are
 any, please name them. If there aren't, what's the reason not to
 go this route?
 
 The reason was what you suggested was not very specific, I still have no
 idea how to implement a patch which can make sure a page being
 allocated and getting simultaneously scrubbed by another CPU won't get
 passed to the caller until the scrubbing finished.

The scrubbing code would need to mark the page, and the allocation
code would need to spin on such marked pages until the mark clears.

Jan


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Re: [Xen-devel] A good way to speed up the xl destroy time(guest page scrubbing)

2014-12-08 Thread Bob Liu

On 12/08/2014 04:34 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
 On 07.12.14 at 14:43, bob@oracle.com wrote:
 
 On 12/05/2014 08:24 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
 On 05.12.14 at 11:00, bob@oracle.com wrote:
 5. Potential workaround
 5.1 Use per-cpu list in idle_loop()
 Delist a batch of pages from heap_list to a per-cpu list, then scrub the
 per-cpu list and free back to heap_list.

 But Jan disagree with this solution:
 You should really drop the idea of removing pages temporarily.
 All you need to do is make sure a page being allocated and getting
 simultaneously scrubbed by another CPU won't get passed to the
 caller until the scrubbing finished.

 So you don't mention any downsides to this approach. If there are
 any, please name them. If there aren't, what's the reason not to
 go this route?

 The reason was what you suggested was not very specific, I still have no
 idea how to implement a patch which can make sure a page being
 allocated and getting simultaneously scrubbed by another CPU won't get
 passed to the caller until the scrubbing finished.
 
 The scrubbing code would need to mark the page, and the allocation
 code would need to spin on such marked pages until the mark clears.
 

Thanks a lot, it's more clear!
Then do you think it is safe to iterate the heap list without spin lock
in the scrubbing code?

Konrad also suggested a similar way which was skip marked pages(instead
of spin) in the allocator, but I always got panic during
page_list_for_each(heap_list) in the scrubbing code if without locking
the heap list.
The panic happend in page_list_next(), I think that's because alloc/free
path modified the heap list.

-- 
Regards,
-Bob

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Re: [Xen-devel] A good way to speed up the xl destroy time(guest page scrubbing)

2014-12-05 Thread Jan Beulich
 On 05.12.14 at 11:00, bob@oracle.com wrote:
 5. Potential workaround
 5.1 Use per-cpu list in idle_loop()
 Delist a batch of pages from heap_list to a per-cpu list, then scrub the
 per-cpu list and free back to heap_list.
 
 But Jan disagree with this solution:
 You should really drop the idea of removing pages temporarily.
 All you need to do is make sure a page being allocated and getting
 simultaneously scrubbed by another CPU won't get passed to the
 caller until the scrubbing finished.

So you don't mention any downsides to this approach. If there are
any, please name them. If there aren't, what's the reason not to
go this route?

Jan


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