Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
2011/12/16 Zdenek Wagner :
> Generally speaking, paragraph breaking is controlled by a few
> registers, the most important is \tolerance. \sloppy sets \tolerance
> to 1 which then looks ugly. You should start with \tolerance=.
> In such a case you should not have overfull boxes (if you still have
> them, some changes in the text may be needed). After this run you find
> the highest badness of the underfull box. Set \tolerance to this value
> and \hbadness to one less and run LaTeX again. You should see just one
> underfull box in your log. Now you can decrease \tolerance (and
> badness) until you get an overfull box, then return to the higher
> value of \tolerance and set \hbadness to the same value. If you have a
> paragraph with an overfull box, then set locally for that paragraph
> \emergencystretch=1em. (This algorithm appeared years ago in an
> article by Phil Taylor and I use it since then)
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Conrad Scott wrote:
> One possible solution for the particular example you posted (see below) is
> to allow line breaks at commas in inline maths. The solution I use for this
> is:
> \mathchardef\breakingcomma\mathcode`\,
> {\catcode`,=\active
> \gdef,{\breakingcomma\discretionary{}{}{}}}
> \newcommand{\mathlist}[1]{$\mathcode`\,=\string"8000 #1$}
Thank you Philip, Zdenek, and Conrad for your great suggestions. I
think maybe I can use the Philip/Zdenek solution for most cases, and
the Conrad solution for problems that still may persist after that.
Thanks again,
Dan
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Conrad Scott wrote:
> Dan,
>
> One possible solution for the particular example you posted (see below) is
> to allow line breaks at commas in inline maths. The solution I use for this
> is:
>
> \mathchardef\breakingcomma\mathcode`\,
>
> {\catcode`,=\active
>
> \gdef,{\breakingcomma\discretionary{}{}{}}
>
> }
>
>
> \newcommand{\mathlist}[1]{$\mathcode`\,=\string"8000 #1$}
>
>
> which I took from the answer by egreg to the following stackexchange
> question:
>
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/19094/allowing-line-break-at-in-inline-math-mode-breaks-citations
>
>
> You could use this as "Let the tuple $(\mathlist{X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -,
> !, \#})$" in your example.
>
>
> There are some other solutions in that post and the other it links to.
>
>
> All my best,
> Conrad
>
> On 12/16/2011 01:55 AM, Daniel Greenhoe wrote:
>
> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
>
> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \usepackage{unicode-math}
> \usepackage{geometry}
> \geometry{
> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
> showframe
> }
> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
> \begin{document}%
> \thispagestyle{empty}%
> %\sloppy
> %\raggedright
> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
> be some useful mathematical structure.
> Then, \ldots
> \end{document}%
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Dan
>
>
>
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
Dan,
One possible solution for the particular example you posted (see below)
is to allow line breaks at commas in inline maths. The solution I use
for this is:
\mathchardef\breakingcomma\mathcode`\,
{\catcode`,=\active
\gdef,{\breakingcomma\discretionary{}{}{}}
}
\newcommand{\mathlist}[1]{$\mathcode`\,=\string"8000 #1$}
which I took from the answer by egreg to the following stackexchange
question:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/19094/allowing-line-break-at-in-inline-math-mode-breaks-citations
You could use this as "Let the tuple $(\mathlist{X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x,
-, !, \#})$" in your example.
There are some other solutions in that post and the other it links to.
All my best,
Conrad
On 12/16/2011 01:55 AM, Daniel Greenhoe wrote:
I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
Below (see also attachment) is an example:
\documentclass[12pt]{book}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\usepackage{geometry}
\geometry{
xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
showframe
}
\setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
\setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\begin{document}%
\thispagestyle{empty}%
%\sloppy
%\raggedright
Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
be some useful mathematical structure.
Then, \ldots
\end{document}%
Many thanks in advance,
Dan
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
2011/12/16 Philip TAYLOR : > > > Zdenek Wagner wrote: > >> You should start with \tolerance=. >> In such a case you should not have overfull boxes (if you still have >> them, some changes in the text may be needed). After this run you find >> the highest badness of the underfull box. Set \tolerance to this value >> and \hbadness to one less and run LaTeX again. You should see just one >> underfull box in your log. Now you can decrease \tolerance (and >> badness) until you get an overfull box, then return to the higher >> value of \tolerance and set \hbadness to the same value. If you have a >> paragraph with an overfull box, then set locally for that paragraph >> \emergencystretch=1em. (This algorithm appeared years ago in an >> article by Phil Taylor and I use it since then) > > > So do I (!), but I am fairly certain that Frank Mittelbach subsequently > proved that there is a far simpler way of achieving exactly the same > results, with considerably less effort. Frank, are you there ? > It's not that much effort. I do not care about overfull boxes until the text is finished and proof read. And then I have a few macros that help me to do it quite quickly. In pdftex hz-algorithm can sometimes help but not always. > ** Phil. > > > > -- > Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex -- Zdeněk Wagner http://hroch486.icpf.cas.cz/wagner/ http://icebearsoft.euweb.cz -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
Zdenek Wagner wrote: You should start with \tolerance=. In such a case you should not have overfull boxes (if you still have them, some changes in the text may be needed). After this run you find the highest badness of the underfull box. Set \tolerance to this value and \hbadness to one less and run LaTeX again. You should see just one underfull box in your log. Now you can decrease \tolerance (and badness) until you get an overfull box, then return to the higher value of \tolerance and set \hbadness to the same value. If you have a paragraph with an overfull box, then set locally for that paragraph \emergencystretch=1em. (This algorithm appeared years ago in an article by Phil Taylor and I use it since then) So do I (!), but I am fairly certain that Frank Mittelbach subsequently proved that there is a far simpler way of achieving exactly the same results, with considerably less effort. Frank, are you there ? ** Phil. -- Subscriptions, Archive, and List information, etc.: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex
Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
2011/12/16 Zdenek Wagner :
> 2011/12/16 Keith J. Schultz :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would suggest putting a newline after the therorem title. Could right your
>> own command
>> for that.
>>
Just one more remark, if you want to change \emergencystretch locally,
it is not necessary to put the whole paragraph into a group, just
enter immediatelly after the last character of the paragraph the
following:
{\emergencystretch=1em \par}
>> Though it is a matter of style and taste.
>>
>> regards
>> Keith.
>>
>> Am 16.12.2011 um 02:55 schrieb Daniel Greenhoe:
>>
> Generally speaking, paragraph breaking is controlled by a few
> registers, the most important is \tolerance. \sloppy sets \tolerance
> to 1 which then looks ugly. You should start with \tolerance=.
> In such a case you should not have overfull boxes (if you still have
> them, some changes in the text may be needed). After this run you find
> the highest badness of the underfull box. Set \tolerance to this value
> and \hbadness to one less and run LaTeX again. You should see just one
> underfull box in your log. Now you can decrease \tolerance (and
> badness) until you get an overfull box, then return to the higher
> value of \tolerance and set \hbadness to the same value. If you have a
> paragraph with an overfull box, then set locally for that paragraph
> \emergencystretch=1em. (This algorithm appeared years ago in an
> article by Phil Taylor and I use it since then)
>
>>> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
>>> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
>>> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
>>> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
>>> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
>>>
>>> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
>>> \usepackage{fontspec}
>>> \usepackage{unicode-math}
>>> \usepackage{geometry}
>>> \geometry{
>>> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
>>> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
>>> showframe
>>> }
>>> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
>>> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
>>> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
>>> \begin{document}%
>>> \thispagestyle{empty}%
>>> %\sloppy
>>> %\raggedright
>>> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
>>> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
>>> be some useful mathematical structure.
>>> Then, \ldots
>>> \end{document}%
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
2011/12/16 Keith J. Schultz :
> Hi,
>
> I would suggest putting a newline after the therorem title. Could right your
> own command
> for that.
>
> Though it is a matter of style and taste.
>
> regards
> Keith.
>
> Am 16.12.2011 um 02:55 schrieb Daniel Greenhoe:
>
Generally speaking, paragraph breaking is controlled by a few
registers, the most important is \tolerance. \sloppy sets \tolerance
to 1 which then looks ugly. You should start with \tolerance=.
In such a case you should not have overfull boxes (if you still have
them, some changes in the text may be needed). After this run you find
the highest badness of the underfull box. Set \tolerance to this value
and \hbadness to one less and run LaTeX again. You should see just one
underfull box in your log. Now you can decrease \tolerance (and
badness) until you get an overfull box, then return to the higher
value of \tolerance and set \hbadness to the same value. If you have a
paragraph with an overfull box, then set locally for that paragraph
\emergencystretch=1em. (This algorithm appeared years ago in an
article by Phil Taylor and I use it since then)
>> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
>> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
>> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
>> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
>> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
>>
>> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
>> \usepackage{fontspec}
>> \usepackage{unicode-math}
>> \usepackage{geometry}
>> \geometry{
>> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
>> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
>> showframe
>> }
>> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
>> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
>> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
>> \begin{document}%
>> \thispagestyle{empty}%
>> %\sloppy
>> %\raggedright
>> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
>> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
>> be some useful mathematical structure.
>> Then, \ldots
>> \end{document}%
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Dan
>>
>>
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Vladimir Lomov wrote:
\theoremstyle{break}
I would like to use something like this. However this directive
blindly puts a break after all the theorem headers, not just where it
is needed. The entire document is over 300 pages long with many
theorems and the like, and I would prefer that it was not so wasteful
with white space.
Dan
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Vladimir Lomov wrote:
> Hello,
> ** Daniel Greenhoe [2011-12-16 09:55:19 +0800]:
>
>> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
>> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
>> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
>> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
>> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
>
>> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
>> \usepackage{fontspec}
>> \usepackage{unicode-math}
>> \usepackage{geometry}
>> \geometry{
>> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
>> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
>> showframe
>> }
>> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
>> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
>> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
>> \begin{document}%
>> \thispagestyle{empty}%
>> %\sloppy
>> %\raggedright
>> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
>> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
>> be some useful mathematical structure.
>> Then, \ldots
>> \end{document}%
>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Dan
>
> It might won't help you with you real case but this example can be
> improved
>
> [example]
> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \usepackage{unicode-math}
> \usepackage{amsmath} %%% Just becuase I very like this package
> \usepackage{theorem}
> \usepackage{geometry}
> \geometry{
> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
> showframe
> }
>
> \theoremstyle{break}
> \newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter]
>
> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
> \begin{document}%
> \thispagestyle{empty}%
> %\sloppy
> %\raggedright
> \begin{theorem}[The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title]
> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
> be some useful mathematical structure.
> Then, \ldots
> \end{theorem}
> \end{document}%
> [/example]
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
Hi,
I would suggest putting a newline after the therorem title. Could right your
own command
for that.
Though it is a matter of style and taste.
regards
Keith.
Am 16.12.2011 um 02:55 schrieb Daniel Greenhoe:
> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
>
> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \usepackage{unicode-math}
> \usepackage{geometry}
> \geometry{
> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
> showframe
> }
> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
> \begin{document}%
> \thispagestyle{empty}%
> %\sloppy
> %\raggedright
> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
> be some useful mathematical structure.
> Then, \ldots
> \end{document}%
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Dan
>
>
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Re: [XeTeX] Overfull \hbox when using inline math scripts
Hello,
** Daniel Greenhoe [2011-12-16 09:55:19 +0800]:
> I have a rather long document involving mathematics that sometimes has
> the "Overfull \hbox" problem when I use inline mathematical scripts.
> Before I go hacking up the document with newline and \raggedright
> commands, is there any more elegant solution currently available?
> Below (see also attachment) is an example:
> \documentclass[12pt]{book}
> \usepackage{fontspec}
> \usepackage{unicode-math}
> \usepackage{geometry}
> \geometry{
> xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
> paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
> showframe
> }
> \setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
> \setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
> \setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
> \begin{document}%
> \thispagestyle{empty}%
> %\sloppy
> %\raggedright
> Theorem 1.1 (The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title)
> Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
> be some useful mathematical structure.
> Then, \ldots
> \end{document}%
> Many thanks in advance,
> Dan
It might won't help you with you real case but this example can be
improved
[example]
\documentclass[12pt]{book}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\usepackage{amsmath} %%% Just becuase I very like this package
\usepackage{theorem}
\usepackage{geometry}
\geometry{
xetex,centering,twoside,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,
paper=a4paper,margin=20mm,
showframe
}
\theoremstyle{break}
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}[chapter]
\setmainfont{texgyrepagella-regular.otf}
\setmathfont{xits-math.otf}
\setlength{\parindent}{0pt}
\begin{document}%
\thispagestyle{empty}%
%\sloppy
%\raggedright
\begin{theorem}[The Theorem That Has This Rather Long Title]
Let the tuple $(X, Y, Z, A, B, C, +, x, -, !, \#)$
be some useful mathematical structure.
Then, \ldots
\end{theorem}
\end{document}%
[/example]
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