Re: [XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:30:54AM -0800, John Chandler wrote: I notice a deafening silence on this topic all of a sudden. Have I offended my hosts or become tiresome? Please accept my apologies. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether the freezing I'm seeing is an XFree86 issue or something else? Does RH9 do this a lot? I'd consider hardware deficiencies, but when I boot my old RH 7.x on the exact same hardware (except different HD), it stays up for days, vs. minutes w/RH9 and the new XFree86. Adjusting the resolution to pathetically low doesn't fix it. Feel free to recommend that I have someone cut the traces to the onboard video, replace my motherboard, install SUSE, etc. I presume XFree86 is *the* X server at this point, but I'm even open to changing that if you think it would be an option -- I am stuck at RedHat 7.something until I get past this. Thanks, and I realize nobody's getting paid for the advice given here. All I can suggest is that you try the latest sis driver. Thomas has a very comprehensive web site for his driver http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml. You can download driver updates from there too. I don't have any sis hardware and I'm not familiar with the driver myself, so there isn't much more I can add. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
Thanks. I think this is really a bit of a conundrum -- on my RH7.x system, Trident is mentioned in the XFree86 config file, and SiS is not. And on my RH9 system, running on the very same hardware, SiS is mentioned, and Trident is not. Both configurations seem to cause X to come up on the PCI video card. I haven't tried to max out the resolution on either RH7 or RH9, but both seem to support 1400x1050. I suspect this is impossible, and I must be failing to observe something. The crashing is the symptom I care more about, of course, and I will take your advice about the SiS drivers. But in the future, I will avoid like the plague motherboards with onboard video. Thanks again. -jmc David Dawes writes: On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:30:54AM -0800, John Chandler wrote: [...] Does anyone have an opinion as to whether the freezing I'm seeing is an XFree86 issue or something else? Does RH9 do this a lot? I'd consider hardware deficiencies, but when I boot my old RH 7.x on the exact same hardware (except different HD), it stays up for days, vs. minutes w/RH9 and the new XFree86. Adjusting the resolution to pathetically low doesn't fix it. Feel free to recommend that I have someone cut the traces to the onboard video, replace my motherboard, install SUSE, etc. I presume XFree86 is *the* X server at this point, but I'm even open to changing that if you think it would be an option -- I am stuck at RedHat 7.something until I get past this. Thanks, and I realize nobody's getting paid for the advice given here. All I can suggest is that you try the latest sis driver. Thomas has a very comprehensive web site for his driver http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml. You can download driver updates from there too. I don't have any sis hardware and I'm not familiar with the driver myself, so there isn't much more I can add. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:01:39PM -0800, John Chandler wrote: Thanks. I think this is really a bit of a conundrum -- on my RH7.x system, Trident is mentioned in the XFree86 config file, and SiS is Actually, for the old 3.3.x based config file you posted, there was nothing Trident specific other than strings that have no affect on which driver actually gets used. I don't think there's really any mystery there. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
Oh. OK, well, maybe I will understand this stuff at some point and it will seem less like Vulcan magic. Nah, prob'ly not. :-/ Thanks again. -jmc David Dawes writes: On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 07:01:39PM -0800, John Chandler wrote: Thanks. I think this is really a bit of a conundrum -- on my RH7.x system, Trident is mentioned in the XFree86 config file, and Actually, for the old 3.3.x based config file you posted, there was nothing Trident specific other than strings that have no affect on which driver actually gets used. I don't think there's really any mystery there. David -- David Dawes developer/release engineer The XFree86 Project www.XFree86.org/~dawes ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
I was having troubles with my S3 Savage IX based laptop freezing with X 4.3.0. On a whim I set the driver to vesa, since the screen is 800x600 and there's no 3d stuff to speak of. Works great. Give it a try if you haven't. Wish I knew what was up with the savage driver. It doesn't just hose X, it locks the machine hard. -- Be very careful about the beginning. Then, be very careful about the end. Then, be very careful about the middle. http://www.hacksaw.org -- http://www.privatecircus.com -- KB1FVD ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] XFree86 freezes in minutes (was:Trident Blade, no screens)
I notice a deafening silence on this topic all of a sudden. Have I offended my hosts or become tiresome? Please accept my apologies. Does anyone have an opinion as to whether the freezing I'm seeing is an XFree86 issue or something else? Does RH9 do this a lot? I'd consider hardware deficiencies, but when I boot my old RH 7.x on the exact same hardware (except different HD), it stays up for days, vs. minutes w/RH9 and the new XFree86. Adjusting the resolution to pathetically low doesn't fix it. Feel free to recommend that I have someone cut the traces to the onboard video, replace my motherboard, install SUSE, etc. I presume XFree86 is *the* X server at this point, but I'm even open to changing that if you think it would be an option -- I am stuck at RedHat 7.something until I get past this. Thanks, and I realize nobody's getting paid for the advice given here. -jmc | Thomas Winischhofer writes: | John Chandler wrote: | (--) PCI:*(0:8:0) Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS300/305 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter rev 144, Mem @ 0xd000/27, 0xe000/17, I/O @ 0xdc00/7 | (--) PCI: (1:0:0) Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 rev 106, Mem @ 0xdd80/23, 0xde00/17, 0xdd00/23 | | [...] |The monitor is not connected to the on-board video card, it is | | This is slightly OT: Is the SiS 300/305 really on-board? If so, what MB | is this? | | Is there any way to tell, other than just remembering or checking the | docs, in which case I'm hosed? | | BTW, it does appear that the add-on card is the SiS. That is, when I | reinstalled RedHat and told it I had an SiS, X did come up. It came | up in patheticaly low resolution and the system froze after about five | minutes, but it did come up. Any clue what the issue would be here? The resolution problem is fixable using a Gnome utility. But the machine still abruptly freezes after a short while -- five to ten minutes. Once it was when emacs had just come up, once it was when another app had painted the blank rectangle of a drop-down menu but had not filled in any of the menu panes. And it's utter lockup -- caps lock key doesn't make the LED come on. Any clue why I'd be seeing this, and more to the point, what I can do to fix it? Get a horse? I guess I'll try lowering the resolution and see if that changes anything. But my current desktop is 1400x1050 with the same card, and I'm sure I'm not setting the resolution on the new system any higher than that. -jmc ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
