[XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-15 Thread Edouard Debry
hello,

I currently run the slackware 9.1 distro with Xfree86 4.3
I have just installed the latest kernel 2.6.4 and I use nvidia
proprietary driver for my Geforce4 graphic card (including AGP from same
driver )

I have no pb except this odd message from kernel :

nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86
NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-5336  Wed Jan 14 18:29:26 PST 2004
 atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
 atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
 atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.
atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
 atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.

The point is that a few minutes later, while everything seems to run
well, my system totally freezes, mouse and keyboard, so that the only
solution is reboot

Do you think the freeze events are due to the reported bug ?


hoping for your help 
best regards
edouard

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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-15 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:

> hello,
> 
> I currently run the slackware 9.1 distro with Xfree86 4.3
> I have just installed the latest kernel 2.6.4 and I use nvidia
> proprietary driver for my Geforce4 graphic card (including AGP from same
> driver )
> 
> I have no pb except this odd message from kernel :
> 
> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
> 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86
> NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-5336  Wed Jan 14 18:29:26 PST 2004
>  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
>  atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
>  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
>  atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
>  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
>  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.
> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
>  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.
> 
> The point is that a few minutes later, while everything seems to run
> well, my system totally freezes, mouse and keyboard, so that the only
> solution is reboot
> 
> Do you think the freeze events are due to the reported bug ?
> 

   I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
with the AGP drivers.


Mark.

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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-15 Thread T. Horsnell (tsh)
We too had curious hangs requiring a 'box reset' to recover.
This was with RH9/xfree86-4.3.0/kernel-2.4.20/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2


Disabling AGP support in XF86Config helped here. e.g.:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Videocard0"
Driver  "nvidia"
VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)"
VideoRam131072
Option  "Stereo" "3"
#turn off AGP support for now
Option  "NvAGP" "0"
EndSection

Cheers,
Terry.




>On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
>
>> hello,
>> 
>> I currently run the slackware 9.1 distro with Xfree86 4.3
>> I have just installed the latest kernel 2.6.4 and I use nvidia
>> proprietary driver for my Geforce4 graphic card (including AGP from same
>> driver )
>> 
>> I have no pb except this odd message from kernel :
>> 
>> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
>> 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86
>> NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-5336  Wed Jan 14 18:29:26 PST 2004
>>  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
>>  atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
>>  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0).
>>  atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly.
>>  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
>>  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.
>> atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x85 on isa0060/serio0).
>>  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e005 ' to make it known.
>> 
>> The point is that a few minutes later, while everything seems to run
>> well, my system totally freezes, mouse and keyboard, so that the only
>> solution is reboot
>> 
>> Do you think the freeze events are due to the reported bug ?
>> 
>
>   I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
>with the AGP drivers.
>
>
>   Mark.
>
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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-16 Thread Edouard Debry
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> 
> 
>I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
> with the AGP drivers.
> 
> 
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I had already noticed nvidia module had difficulties with agpgart GPL
module, nvidia warning saying that nvidia was not able to handle agpgart

that is why i tried the own AGP module of nvidia, all seemed to work
well until it freezes completely, this pb does not appear in text mode

do you think the pb comes from nvidia, or kernel 2.6.4 agpgart, or
Xfree86 ( 4.3 version ) ?

that is to note my Xfree86 4.3 binaries were originaly built with
a 2.4.22 kernel, whereas I no run the 2.6.4 , do you think this could
create some instabilities ?

thank you for helping me in debugging

best regards 
edouard


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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-16 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:

> > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
> > with the AGP drivers.
> > 
> > 
> > Mark.
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> I had already noticed nvidia module had difficulties with agpgart GPL
> module, nvidia warning saying that nvidia was not able to handle agpgart
> 
> that is why i tried the own AGP module of nvidia, all seemed to work
> well until it freezes completely, this pb does not appear in text mode
> 
> do you think the pb comes from nvidia, or kernel 2.6.4 agpgart, or
> Xfree86 ( 4.3 version ) ?
> 
> that is to note my Xfree86 4.3 binaries were originaly built with
> a 2.4.22 kernel, whereas I no run the 2.6.4 , do you think this could
> create some instabilities ?

No, it's unlikely to be an XFree86 problem.  You should
try turning off AGP (Option "NVAGP" "0" in the Section "Device"
of the XF86Config file).


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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-18 Thread Edouard Debry
I turned off AGP and there is no more problem (at least for now),
but is it definitely impossible to use AGP ? what is wrong with AGP ?


On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:19:26AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> 
> > > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
> > > with the AGP drivers.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Mark.
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> > I had already noticed nvidia module had difficulties with agpgart GPL
> > module, nvidia warning saying that nvidia was not able to handle agpgart
> > 
> > that is why i tried the own AGP module of nvidia, all seemed to work
> > well until it freezes completely, this pb does not appear in text mode
> > 
> > do you think the pb comes from nvidia, or kernel 2.6.4 agpgart, or
> > Xfree86 ( 4.3 version ) ?
> > 
> > that is to note my Xfree86 4.3 binaries were originaly built with
> > a 2.4.22 kernel, whereas I no run the 2.6.4 , do you think this could
> > create some instabilities ?
> 
> No, it's unlikely to be an XFree86 problem.  You should
> try turning off AGP (Option "NVAGP" "0" in the Section "Device"
> of the XF86Config file).
> 
> 
>   Mark.
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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-18 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:

> I turned off AGP and there is no more problem (at least for now),
> but is it definitely impossible to use AGP ? what is wrong with AGP ?


  There's either a bug in the AGP suport for that chipset in either
AGPGART or NVGART depending on which you are using.  Or it could
be a 2.6 specific bug in NVIDIA's drivers with respect to AGP.


Mark.

> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:19:26AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> > 
> > > > On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >I think that's unlikely.  My guess would be that it's a problem
> > > > with the AGP drivers.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Mark.
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> > > I had already noticed nvidia module had difficulties with agpgart GPL
> > > module, nvidia warning saying that nvidia was not able to handle agpgart
> > > 
> > > that is why i tried the own AGP module of nvidia, all seemed to work
> > > well until it freezes completely, this pb does not appear in text mode
> > > 
> > > do you think the pb comes from nvidia, or kernel 2.6.4 agpgart, or
> > > Xfree86 ( 4.3 version ) ?
> > > 
> > > that is to note my Xfree86 4.3 binaries were originaly built with
> > > a 2.4.22 kernel, whereas I no run the 2.6.4 , do you think this could
> > > create some instabilities ?
> > 
> > No, it's unlikely to be an XFree86 problem.  You should
> > try turning off AGP (Option "NVAGP" "0" in the Section "Device"
> > of the XF86Config file).
> > 
> > 
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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-22 Thread Edouard Debry
I gave the option "mem=nopentium" at boot and it seemed to have solved
the instability with AGP ( the internal AGP driver of nvidia ), 
I say only "seemed" because there is no more freeze events in the first
minutes after boot, and Xfree86 log says that nvidia internal agp has
been successfully initialized,

this advice was given in nvidia's notice, I have not tried it with
agpgart yet,

I am curious to understand what "mem=nopentium" acutally does
and where was the instability

thanks for your help

edouard


On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:18:56AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> 
> > I turned off AGP and there is no more problem (at least for now),
> > but is it definitely impossible to use AGP ? what is wrong with AGP ?
> 
> 
>   There's either a bug in the AGP suport for that chipset in either
> AGPGART or NVGART depending on which you are using.  Or it could
> be a 2.6 specific bug in NVIDIA's drivers with respect to AGP.
> 
> 
>   Mark.
> 
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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-22 Thread Mark Vojkovich
   My impression was that "mem=nopentium" was only applicable
to older kernels.  Basically, the large page extension on AMD
processors behaves differently than on Intel.  Linux kernel
did not properly support it (nor did Microsoft Windows, for that
matter).  I thought that newer 2.4 kernels had workarounds for
the Athlon, but "mem=nopentium" was required to disable the broken
support altogether on older kernels.  Perhaps this is a regression
in 2.6.


Mark.


On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:

> I gave the option "mem=nopentium" at boot and it seemed to have solved
> the instability with AGP ( the internal AGP driver of nvidia ),
> I say only "seemed" because there is no more freeze events in the first
> minutes after boot, and Xfree86 log says that nvidia internal agp has
> been successfully initialized,
>
> this advice was given in nvidia's notice, I have not tried it with
> agpgart yet,
>
> I am curious to understand what "mem=nopentium" acutally does
> and where was the instability
>
> thanks for your help
>
> edouard
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:18:56AM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:
> >
> > > I turned off AGP and there is no more problem (at least for now),
> > > but is it definitely impossible to use AGP ? what is wrong with AGP ?
> >
> >
> >   There's either a bug in the AGP suport for that chipset in either
> > AGPGART or NVGART depending on which you are using.  Or it could
> > be a 2.6 specific bug in NVIDIA's drivers with respect to AGP.
> >
> >
> > Mark.
> >
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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-23 Thread Edouard Debry
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 12:44:09PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
>My impression was that "mem=nopentium" was only applicable
> to older kernels.


>Basically, the large page extension on AMD
> processors behaves differently than on Intel.  Linux kernel
> did not properly support it (nor did Microsoft Windows, for that
> matter).  I thought that newer 2.4 kernels had workarounds for
> the Athlon, but "mem=nopentium" was required to disable the broken
> support altogether on older kernels.  Perhaps this is a regression
> in 2.6.
> 

I also knew that "mem=nopentium" was deprecated with 2.6.xx kernels,
do you know if this issue has been fixed in 2.6 kernels ??

actually, I discovered that my memory was quite bad, at least
one hundred errors with memtest !! so instabilities with AGP
could be related not specificly to AGP software but to the fact that
AGP uses one bad memory area

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Re: [XFree86] a Xfree86 bug

2004-03-23 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Edouard Debry wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 12:44:09PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
> >My impression was that "mem=nopentium" was only applicable
> > to older kernels.
>
>
> >Basically, the large page extension on AMD
> > processors behaves differently than on Intel.  Linux kernel
> > did not properly support it (nor did Microsoft Windows, for that
> > matter).  I thought that newer 2.4 kernels had workarounds for
> > the Athlon, but "mem=nopentium" was required to disable the broken
> > support altogether on older kernels.  Perhaps this is a regression
> > in 2.6.
> >
>
> I also knew that "mem=nopentium" was deprecated with 2.6.xx kernels,
> do you know if this issue has been fixed in 2.6 kernels ??

I do not.  I merely assume that if it was fixed in later 2.4
kernels, it would be fixed in 2.6 kernels.

> actually, I discovered that my memory was quite bad, at least
> one hundred errors with memtest !! so instabilities with AGP
> could be related not specificly to AGP software but to the fact that
> AGP uses one bad memory area
>

   That sounds like a reasonable explanation.

Mark.
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