[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
Hmm...

I really like the clamd option of clamav-win32.  Seems really well suited
for use on a mail server.

ClamWin is definitely suited for average home use (nice interface,
cool/simple install program, and plugs into Outlook).

So I'll look at clamscan.exe first (they both share that) and then at
clamdscan.exe for using the clamd.exe service.

For the non-technical, both of these products use a virtual Linux system
(CygWin) to run a Linux program (clamav).  These are not native Win32
programs.  But that shouldn't stop you from using them.  You just need to be
aware of some things such as increased resource requirements (after all, you
are mapping unix op calls to win32 op calls).

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Tony Wu
CalmAV for Windows
http://www.sosdg.org/clamav-win32/
this one only provide command line tool.  Probably a bit faster.

ClamWin does provide GUI, and I feel it is more suitable at desktop.


On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:13:04 -0600, Jason J. Ellingson
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> CalmAV for Windows...
> http://www.clamwin.net/
> 
> 
> 
> Jason J Ellingson
> Technical Consultant
> 
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> 612.605.1132 : minneapolis
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tim McGarvey
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos
> 
> It's been a while since I looked, but there's a windows port for Clamav now?
> Last time I installed it I had to install Cygwin, locate a missing
> dependency file in the cygwin install of one of the math packages to get md5
> checks working, and manually build the executable from source.  After
> getting it working, I figured it wasn't really worth the hassle.  Has
> someone come out with a good windows port?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
CalmAV for Windows...
http://www.clamwin.net/ 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tim McGarvey
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

It's been a while since I looked, but there's a windows port for Clamav now?
Last time I installed it I had to install Cygwin, locate a missing
dependency file in the cygwin install of one of the math packages to get md5
checks working, and manually build the executable from source.  After
getting it working, I figured it wasn't really worth the hassle.  Has
someone come out with a good windows port?

Thanks,
Tim

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
SpamAssassin with all tests enabled is the winner hands down.  There are no
others that compare.

Most who say SA can be beat by product xxx did not try SA with everything
enabled... they only had the offline tests enabled, or worse, messed with
the defaults thinking they were smarter than the development team.

Outside of that, I've seen best results from CloudMark's products.  They're
the folks behind the Razor2 database.  It works quite well.

If you are looking for just Bayes based systems... take a peek at
SourceForge.net.  I know of two other bayes anti-spam systems on there.  But
they all suffer from Bayes poisoning tactics (fill an email up with
non-spammy words to get past).  SA doesn't suffer from this as Bayes is just
one facet of its system.

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612.605.1132 : minneapolis

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Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

Jason,
Thanks a lot for this info. How about for anti-spam. What commercial package
would you recommend other than Spamassassin?
Regards,
Manny

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Manny Fulgencio
Jason,
Thanks a lot for this info. How about for anti-spam. What commercial package 
would you recommend other than Spamassassin?
Regards,
Manny


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From: Jason J. Ellingson 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos
Received: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:22:14 PM

For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
update on AV testing...

I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...

F-Prot is by far the fastest. It scans emails in 200-300ms. It hasn't
missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
amount of computer resources.

NAI's McAfee is quite a bit slower. It scans emails in 800-1000ms. It
hasn't missed a single virus either (I update the virus sigs hourly). It
also catches a lot of the fraud emails (bank phishing scams). It is a heavy
resource user.

Sophos is about the same speed as McAfee. It scans emails in 800-900ms. It
has missed two viruses (double zipped files -- the other two av's caught).
And it is a medium resource user.

In summary, they all work fine, but if you haven't put your money in one
yet, I'd use F-Prot.

As for claims that some viruses aren't caught by F-Prot, it appears that it
doesn't try to get specific too much about the virus names... so it may
catch Bagle.AT and call it Bagle.AQ as the code difference wasn't enough for
them to bother... I don't know why, as their other products will bother
telling you it is a slightly different virus.

I'm sure that it is possible for F-Prot/McAfee to miss one and Sophos to
catch it... I'm sure I don't get every virus in the wild... but these are
what my logs show and thought it'd might help some of you smaller users who
don't get enough emails to test.

XMail-AV will be released again (V1.3) this weekend with logging as a new
feature.
XMail-SpamC will be released (V1.0) this weekend and will support both just
"tagging" and if you use XMail-WAI, will move the email into the user's
"spambox" based on score.

Jason J Ellingson
Technical Consultant

615.301.1682 : nashville
612.605.1132 : minneapolis

www.ellingson.com
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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Tim McGarvey
It's been a while since I looked, but there's a windows port for Clamav now?
Last time I installed it I had to install Cygwin, locate a missing
dependency file in the cygwin install of one of the math packages to get md5
checks working, and manually build the executable from source.  After
getting it working, I figured it wasn't really worth the hassle.  Has
someone come out with a good windows port?

Thanks,
Tim


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Behalf Of Ing. Rosario Pingaro
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Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

May you add the Clamav support?
They have a good port for windows that works greta and it is FREE.

Thanks

Rosario


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From: "Jason J. Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:20 AM
Subject: [xmail] F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos


> For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
> update on AV testing...
>
> I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
> after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...
>
> F-Prot is by far the fastest.  It scans emails in 200-300ms.  It hasn't
> missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
> amount of computer resources.
>
> NAI's McAfee is quite a bit slower.  It scans emails in 800-1000ms.  It
> hasn't missed a single virus either (I update the virus sigs hourly).  It
> also catches a lot of the fraud emails (bank phishing scams).  It is a 
> heavy
> resource user.
>
> Sophos is about the same speed as McAfee.  It scans emails in 800-900ms. 
> It
> has missed two viruses (double zipped files -- the other two av's caught).
> And it is a medium resource user.
>
> In summary, they all work fine, but if you haven't put your money in one
> yet, I'd use F-Prot.
>
> As for claims that some viruses aren't caught by F-Prot, it appears that 
> it
> doesn't try to get specific too much about the virus names... so it may
> catch Bagle.AT and call it Bagle.AQ as the code difference wasn't enough 
> for
> them to bother... I don't know why, as their other products will bother
> telling you it is a slightly different virus.
>
> I'm sure that it is possible for F-Prot/McAfee to miss one and Sophos to
> catch it... I'm sure I don't get every virus in the wild... but these are
> what my logs show and thought it'd might help some of you smaller users 
> who
> don't get enough emails to test.
>
> XMail-AV will be released again (V1.3) this weekend with logging as a new
> feature.
> XMail-SpamC will be released (V1.0) this weekend and will support both 
> just
> "tagging" and if you use XMail-WAI, will move the email into the user's
> "spambox" based on score.
> 
> Jason J Ellingson
> Technical Consultant
>
> 615.301.1682 : nashville
> 612.605.1132 : minneapolis
>
> www.ellingson.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[xmail] Re: Stunnel need help please

2004-11-19 Thread Yann LE ROCH - Agence CHROM
Re Hello
I found a information on doc of xmail
http://www.xmailserver.com/Readme.html#pop3_commands
id need close the standard POP3 port for the rest of the world by binding it
to 127.0.0.1.
and use parameter -PI for that.
BUT i 've 2 questions (before make a mistake)
:-(
- how to do that? by line command i presume?
-  and can i use port 110 and 25 + 995 and 8025 on the same xmail
server???

i hope you will understand my bad english
Thanks for your help
Yann

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Envoyé : vendredi 19 novembre 2004 16:31
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Objet : Stunnel need help please


Hello,
i've follow the instruction about this post
http://xmailforum.homelinux.net/index.php?showtopic=601 for install Stunnel
I create my stunnel.pem whit OpenSSL without error, but when i try to
connect outlook on port 995 , i have an error :0800ccc0e
and i don't understand why, on log of Stunnel i have an IP 0.0.0.0 ???
See below my Stunnel log

2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG5[1340:1536]: stunnel 4.05 on x86-pc-mingw32-gnu
WIN32 with OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy
for the PRNG
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG6[1340:1092]: PRNG seeded successfully
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Configuration SSL options: 0x0800
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SSL options set: 0x0800
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Certificate: stunnel.pem
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Key file: stunnel.pem
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG5[1340:1092]: WIN32 platform: 3 clients allowed
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: FD 148 in non-blocking mode
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept
socket
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: POP3 bound to 0.0.0.0:995
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: FD 160 in non-blocking mode
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept
socket
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SMTP bound to 0.0.0.0:8025

Can you help me?
thanks
Yann


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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Tracy
At 09:53 11/19/2004, Jason J. Ellingson wrote:
>I think that would work great for an end-point mail server.  You could never
>do that if you were hosting emails for others.  I have users on
>###-###.dsl.net addresses that have email accounts on my servers.  They
>wouldn't be able to send emails.

They only wouldn't be able to send emails if they did not authenticate. 
It's very easy to put a check for authentication into the filter, and skip 
the RDNS checks if they are authenticated... 

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[xmail] Stunnel need help please

2004-11-19 Thread Yann LE ROCH - Agence CHROM
Hello,
i've follow the instruction about this post
http://xmailforum.homelinux.net/index.php?showtopic=601 for install Stunnel
I create my stunnel.pem whit OpenSSL without error, but when i try to
connect outlook on port 995 , i have an error :0800ccc0e
and i don't understand why, on log of Stunnel i have an IP 0.0.0.0 ???
See below my Stunnel log

2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG5[1340:1536]: stunnel 4.05 on x86-pc-mingw32-gnu
WIN32 with OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 2004
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: RAND_status claims sufficient entropy
for the PRNG
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG6[1340:1092]: PRNG seeded successfully
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Configuration SSL options: 0x0800
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SSL options set: 0x0800
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Certificate: stunnel.pem
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: Key file: stunnel.pem
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG5[1340:1092]: WIN32 platform: 3 clients allowed
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: FD 148 in non-blocking mode
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept
socket
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: POP3 bound to 0.0.0.0:995
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: FD 160 in non-blocking mode
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on accept
socket
2004.11.19 16:13:28 LOG7[1340:1092]: SMTP bound to 0.0.0.0:8025

Can you help me?
thanks
Yann


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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
Okay, ClamAV and AVG are added to the "to do" list.  I'll even see about
getting them in over the weekend (after releasing V1.3).

I will assume we are looking at the AVG free personal use version?

Jason J Ellingson
Technical Consultant

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612.605.1132 : minneapolis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of K. Wolf
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

Or AVG for that matter. ;-)
Wolfy

At 01:31 AM 20/11/2004, you wrote:

>May you add the Clamav support?
>They have a good port for windows that works greta and it is FREE.
>
>Thanks
>
>Rosario

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
I think that would work great for an end-point mail server.  You could never
do that if you were hosting emails for others.  I have users on
###-###.dsl.net addresses that have email accounts on my servers.  They
wouldn't be able to send emails.

Again... good idea for personal email server, but not for ISPs.

Jason J Ellingson
Technical Consultant

615.301.1682 : nashville
612.605.1132 : minneapolis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tracy
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:32 AM
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Subject: [xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

I currently use F-Prot as by "backup" virus scanner. It's probably caught, 
oh, somewhere around 10 virus emails this month (all that made it through 
my primary scanner).

My primary scanner, however, is very efficient at catching viruses - it 
also catches quite a few spams and phishing emails... It's a little program 
I wrote that plugs in as a pre-data filter and tests the RDNS for a number 
of known patterns. For example:

*dsl*.*.com
*dsl*.*.net
*dsl*.*.*.??// catches a lot of stuff out of .JP and .BR
*#.###.###.#*   // where "#" represents a digit between 0 and 9, inclusive
*#.##.###.#*// and other variations to catch IP addresses in RDNS names
*dhcp*.*.com
*dhcp*.*.net
*dhcp*.*.*.??

And so on. Checks for patterns containing things like DSL, DHCP, CABLE, 
MODEM, DIAL, etc, as well as raw IP addresses (separated by periods or
dashes).

Eliminates a truly large number of viruses (before putting it in place, my 
virus scanner was catching probably 50 - 100 viruses per day (and missing 
who knows how many), now it's doing good to catch 10 per week).

Something to think about, if you're in a position to implement it...

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread K. Wolf
Or AVG for that matter. ;-)
Wolfy

At 01:31 AM 20/11/2004, you wrote:

>May you add the Clamav support?
>They have a good port for windows that works greta and it is FREE.
>
>Thanks
>
>Rosario
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jason J. Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:20 AM
>Subject: [xmail] F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos
>
>
> > For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
> > update on AV testing...
> >
> > I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
> > after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...
> >
> > F-Prot is by far the fastest.  It scans emails in 200-300ms.  It hasn't
> > missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
> > amount of computer resources.
> >
> > NAI's McAfee is quite a bit slower.  It scans emails in 800-1000ms.  It
> > hasn't missed a single virus either (I update the virus sigs hourly).  It
> > also catches a lot of the fraud emails (bank phishing scams).  It is a
> > heavy
> > resource user.
> >
> > Sophos is about the same speed as McAfee.  It scans emails in 800-900ms.
> > It
> > has missed two viruses (double zipped files -- the other two av's caught).
> > And it is a medium resource user.
> >
> > In summary, they all work fine, but if you haven't put your money in one
> > yet, I'd use F-Prot.
> >
> > As for claims that some viruses aren't caught by F-Prot, it appears that
> > it
> > doesn't try to get specific too much about the virus names... so it may
> > catch Bagle.AT and call it Bagle.AQ as the code difference wasn't enough
> > for
> > them to bother... I don't know why, as their other products will bother
> > telling you it is a slightly different virus.
> >
> > I'm sure that it is possible for F-Prot/McAfee to miss one and Sophos to
> > catch it... I'm sure I don't get every virus in the wild... but these are
> > what my logs show and thought it'd might help some of you smaller users
> > who
> > don't get enough emails to test.
> >
> > XMail-AV will be released again (V1.3) this weekend with logging as a new
> > feature.
> > XMail-SpamC will be released (V1.0) this weekend and will support both
> > just
> > "tagging" and if you use XMail-WAI, will move the email into the user's
> > "spambox" based on score.
> > 
> > Jason J Ellingson
> > Technical Consultant
> >
> > 615.301.1682 : nashville
> > 612.605.1132 : minneapolis
> >
> > www.ellingson.com
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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Tracy
At 09:20 11/19/2004, Jason J. Ellingson wrote:
>For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
>update on AV testing...
>
>I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
>after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...
>
>F-Prot is by far the fastest.  It scans emails in 200-300ms.  It hasn't
>missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
>amount of computer resources.

I currently use F-Prot as by "backup" virus scanner. It's probably caught, 
oh, somewhere around 10 virus emails this month (all that made it through 
my primary scanner).

My primary scanner, however, is very efficient at catching viruses - it 
also catches quite a few spams and phishing emails... It's a little program 
I wrote that plugs in as a pre-data filter and tests the RDNS for a number 
of known patterns. For example:

*dsl*.*.com
*dsl*.*.net
*dsl*.*.*.??// catches a lot of stuff out of .JP and .BR
*#.###.###.#*   // where "#" represents a digit between 0 and 9, inclusive
*#.##.###.#*// and other variations to catch IP addresses in RDNS names
*dhcp*.*.com
*dhcp*.*.net
*dhcp*.*.*.??

And so on. Checks for patterns containing things like DSL, DHCP, CABLE, 
MODEM, DIAL, etc, as well as raw IP addresses (separated by periods or dashes).

Eliminates a truly large number of viruses (before putting it in place, my 
virus scanner was catching probably 50 - 100 viruses per day (and missing 
who knows how many), now it's doing good to catch 10 per week).

Something to think about, if you're in a position to implement it...

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[xmail] Re: F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Ing. Rosario Pingaro
May you add the Clamav support?
They have a good port for windows that works greta and it is FREE.

Thanks

Rosario


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From: "Jason J. Ellingson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:20 AM
Subject: [xmail] F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos


> For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
> update on AV testing...
>
> I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
> after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...
>
> F-Prot is by far the fastest.  It scans emails in 200-300ms.  It hasn't
> missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
> amount of computer resources.
>
> NAI's McAfee is quite a bit slower.  It scans emails in 800-1000ms.  It
> hasn't missed a single virus either (I update the virus sigs hourly).  It
> also catches a lot of the fraud emails (bank phishing scams).  It is a 
> heavy
> resource user.
>
> Sophos is about the same speed as McAfee.  It scans emails in 800-900ms. 
> It
> has missed two viruses (double zipped files -- the other two av's caught).
> And it is a medium resource user.
>
> In summary, they all work fine, but if you haven't put your money in one
> yet, I'd use F-Prot.
>
> As for claims that some viruses aren't caught by F-Prot, it appears that 
> it
> doesn't try to get specific too much about the virus names... so it may
> catch Bagle.AT and call it Bagle.AQ as the code difference wasn't enough 
> for
> them to bother... I don't know why, as their other products will bother
> telling you it is a slightly different virus.
>
> I'm sure that it is possible for F-Prot/McAfee to miss one and Sophos to
> catch it... I'm sure I don't get every virus in the wild... but these are
> what my logs show and thought it'd might help some of you smaller users 
> who
> don't get enough emails to test.
>
> XMail-AV will be released again (V1.3) this weekend with logging as a new
> feature.
> XMail-SpamC will be released (V1.0) this weekend and will support both 
> just
> "tagging" and if you use XMail-WAI, will move the email into the user's
> "spambox" based on score.
> 
> Jason J Ellingson
> Technical Consultant
>
> 615.301.1682 : nashville
> 612.605.1132 : minneapolis
>
> www.ellingson.com
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[xmail] F-Prot vs NAI vs Sophos

2004-11-19 Thread Jason J. Ellingson
For those using my XMail AV filter for Win32, I thought I'd give you an
update on AV testing...

I've been testing F-Prot, McAfee, and Sophos for a couple weeks now and
after several thousands of emails we have a definite winner...

F-Prot is by far the fastest.  It scans emails in 200-300ms.  It hasn't
missed a single virus (I update the virus sigs hourly) and uses the least
amount of computer resources.

NAI's McAfee is quite a bit slower.  It scans emails in 800-1000ms.  It
hasn't missed a single virus either (I update the virus sigs hourly).  It
also catches a lot of the fraud emails (bank phishing scams).  It is a heavy
resource user.

Sophos is about the same speed as McAfee.  It scans emails in 800-900ms.  It
has missed two viruses (double zipped files -- the other two av's caught).
And it is a medium resource user.

In summary, they all work fine, but if you haven't put your money in one
yet, I'd use F-Prot.

As for claims that some viruses aren't caught by F-Prot, it appears that it
doesn't try to get specific too much about the virus names... so it may
catch Bagle.AT and call it Bagle.AQ as the code difference wasn't enough for
them to bother... I don't know why, as their other products will bother
telling you it is a slightly different virus.

I'm sure that it is possible for F-Prot/McAfee to miss one and Sophos to
catch it... I'm sure I don't get every virus in the wild... but these are
what my logs show and thought it'd might help some of you smaller users who
don't get enough emails to test.

XMail-AV will be released again (V1.3) this weekend with logging as a new
feature.
XMail-SpamC will be released (V1.0) this weekend and will support both just
"tagging" and if you use XMail-WAI, will move the email into the user's
"spambox" based on score.

Jason J Ellingson
Technical Consultant

615.301.1682 : nashville
612.605.1132 : minneapolis

www.ellingson.com
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[xmail] Re: SMTP External Authentication

2004-11-19 Thread Dustin C. Hatch
I have one quick question, and then I think I have got it.  When is the 
useredit called from $XMAIL_ROOT/userauth/pop3/domain.tab?  What I am 
planning is to write a script that takes the place of the passwd program 
that calls CtrlClnt to change the password in xmail, which calls said 
file and also changes the system password.  What I need to know is what 
invokes the useredit command in that file.  Will CtrlClnt -s server -u 
user -p password userpass domain username password call it?  If so, I 
think I have figured out this whole external auth thing!
Thanks for all your help,
Dustin C. Hatch

Dustin C. Hatch wrote:

>I guess I never thought of that.  That would work great.  The only 
>problem is getting the password to two places.  I would have to look 
>into the crypt() function, which would mean I need to brush up on my C 
>:D  Thanks Davide. 
>Dustin C. Hatch
>
>Davide Libenzi wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Dustin C. Hatch wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>I looked further into the docs on SMTP authentication, and they were no 
>>>help.  All I got out of that was external as in another mail server.  My 
>>>question still remains: why does external POP3 authentication not take 
>>>place when sending emails?  It works just fine otherwise, downloading 
>>>messages from the server, but when I try to send a message, then I have 
>>>to use the password in the mailusers.tab file, which defeats the purpose 
>>>of having external authentication in the first place. What am I doing wrong?
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>In general, even if XMail support some form of external auth, if it easier 
>>and more efficent to have the main account repository to trigger a smal 
>>script using CTRL interface to change the XMail password. This prevent 
>>XMail to run external commands during each session.
>>
>>
>>- Davide
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