[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-16 Thread Rob Arends
Yes I agree that $mailroot/spool/local and $mailroot/spool/temp are
documented and exist in distribution, but the problem occurs when someone
wants to clear out the spool they kill all the folders under $mailroot/spool

Yes I agree, if you don't know what your doing (and you kill too many
folders) then you deserve to have pain.

The problem is that these individuals then create noise here wanting help
fixing, when a simple check in xmail will create the folders as well as the
numbered folders at xmail start, and there is less noise.  This also
improves the appearance of the stability of Xmail when it fixes up after
dumb mistakes.

I suppose if the error message that occurred was a little more specific - 
ie. 

Error - Mailroot/spool/local folder missing would do just the same.

Less noise = more IMAP coding.  grin

Rob :-)


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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have ALWAYS had to make those DIR manaually.  Xmail has never made 
 them for us.  Only the numbered ones does it make.

Yes, the numberred ones. Tell me again why would you remove directories from
the XMail structure? They *are* in the supplied MailRoot and they are
documented to be required.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-16 Thread Alex Young
I knew XMail recreated the numbered folders on start-up. I took if for
granted that as it recreated the numbered folders it would also recreate the
other two. I found the problem when I compared the problematic XMail server
to the other one which was still running fine.

 

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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

Yes I agree that $mailroot/spool/local and $mailroot/spool/temp are
documented and exist in distribution, but the problem occurs when someone
wants to clear out the spool they kill all the folders under $mailroot/spool

Yes I agree, if you don't know what your doing (and you kill too many
folders) then you deserve to have pain.

The problem is that these individuals then create noise here wanting help
fixing, when a simple check in xmail will create the folders as well as the
numbered folders at xmail start, and there is less noise.  This also
improves the appearance of the stability of Xmail when it fixes up after
dumb mistakes.

I suppose if the error message that occurred was a little more specific -
ie. 

Error - Mailroot/spool/local folder missing would do just the same.

Less noise = more IMAP coding.  grin

Rob :-)


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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have ALWAYS had to make those DIR manaually.  Xmail has never made 
 them for us.  Only the numbered ones does it make.

Yes, the numberred ones. Tell me again why would you remove directories from
the XMail structure? They *are* in the supplied MailRoot and they are
documented to be required.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Alex Young
I found what the problem was. The two folders that were not numbered under
the /spool directory were missing. I created them then everything worked
fine.

Thanks,
Alex 

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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Alex Young wrote:

 Hi,
 I keep receiving an error message when trying to send emails and I 
 am stuck to what the problem may be. It wasn't doing this on version 
 1.18 so I don't know if something has changed to cause this error.
 
   Requested action aborted: (-19) local error in processing
 
 I looked up the error code and it says;
 
   ERR_FILE_OPEN (-19) Unable to open file
 
 Which file can it not open?

Does it happen right on connection? Try to match your MAIL_ROOT directory
structure with the reference one that is listed inside the doc.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Rob Arends
This error has been seen before, is it possible / wise to have xmail create
them if they are not there at start up?

Your thoughts Davide ? 

Rob :-)

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Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 5:55 PM
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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

I found what the problem was. The two folders that were not numbered under
the /spool directory were missing. I created them then everything worked
fine.

Thanks,
Alex 

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Sent: 14 June 2004 17:36
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Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Alex Young wrote:

 Hi,
 I keep receiving an error message when trying to send emails and I 
 am stuck to what the problem may be. It wasn't doing this on version
 1.18 so I don't know if something has changed to cause this error.
 
   Requested action aborted: (-19) local error in processing
 
 I looked up the error code and it says;
 
   ERR_FILE_OPEN (-19) Unable to open file
 
 Which file can it not open?

Does it happen right on connection? Try to match your MAIL_ROOT directory
structure with the reference one that is listed inside the doc.



- Davide

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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Rob Arends wrote:

 This error has been seen before, is it possible / wise to have xmail create
 them if they are not there at start up?
 
 Your thoughts Davide ? 

It does, when it boots. My policy on this is: If you want to manually 
screw up with the internal folder structure, you *have* to suffer.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread tonys
We have ALWAYS had to make those DIR manaually.  Xmail has never made them
for us.  Only the numbered ones does it make.

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Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 8:36 AM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20


 This error has been seen before, is it possible / wise to have xmail
create
 them if they are not there at start up?

 Your thoughts Davide ?

 Rob :-)

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
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 Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2004 5:55 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

 I found what the problem was. The two folders that were not numbered under
 the /spool directory were missing. I created them then everything worked
 fine.

 Thanks,
 Alex

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On
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 Sent: 14 June 2004 17:36
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 Subject: [xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

 On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Alex Young wrote:

  Hi,
  I keep receiving an error message when trying to send emails and I
  am stuck to what the problem may be. It wasn't doing this on version
  1.18 so I don't know if something has changed to cause this error.
 
  Requested action aborted: (-19) local error in processing
 
  I looked up the error code and it says;
 
  ERR_FILE_OPEN (-19) Unable to open file
 
  Which file can it not open?

 Does it happen right on connection? Try to match your MAIL_ROOT directory
 structure with the reference one that is listed inside the doc.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Jeffrey Laramie
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 12:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have ALWAYS had to make those DIR manaually.  Xmail has never made them
 for us.  Only the numbered ones does it make.


What OS are you using? They are created correctly for me on Linux.

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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread John Kielkopf
Davide Libenzi wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

We have ALWAYS had to make those DIR manaually.  Xmail has never made them
for us.  Only the numbered ones does it make.



Yes, the numberred ones. Tell me again why would you remove directories 
from the XMail structure? They *are* in the supplied MailRoot and they are 
documented to be required.


  

A little off topic, but somewhat related (directories, and Xmail's 
behavior if they're missing). 

For us that have been using Xmail for a lng time, the directory for 
each domain under *cmdaliases* doesn't always exists, since they weren't 
created by older versions of xmail... This only causes problems when 
removing domains (or at least I think that's the only problem).  Not a 
big deal, but it did throw me for a bit.  The change log when upgrading 
to 1.2 did say you needed to make the cmdaliases directory, but I don't 
recall it saying making a directory for each existing domain under it 
was required... If it's not required no error should happen on removal 
of a domain that's missing it.


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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

 For us that have been using Xmail for a lng time, the directory for 
 each domain under *cmdaliases* doesn't always exists, since they weren't 
 created by older versions of xmail... This only causes problems when 
 removing domains (or at least I think that's the only problem).  Not a 
 big deal, but it did throw me for a bit.  The change log when upgrading 
 to 1.2 did say you needed to make the cmdaliases directory, but I don't 
 recall it saying making a directory for each existing domain under it 
 was required... If it's not required no error should happen on removal 
 of a domain that's missing it.

You are not required to create domain directories inside cmdaliases. XMail 
simply checks for the existance of files, and if it doesn't find them, it 
proceeds with local lookup (mailusers.tab).



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread John Kielkopf
Davide Libenzi wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

  

For us that have been using Xmail for a lng time, the directory for 
each domain under *cmdaliases* doesn't always exists, since they weren't 
created by older versions of xmail... This only causes problems when 
removing domains (or at least I think that's the only problem).  Not a 
big deal, but it did throw me for a bit.  The change log when upgrading 
to 1.2 did say you needed to make the cmdaliases directory, but I don't 
recall it saying making a directory for each existing domain under it 
was required... If it's not required no error should happen on removal 
of a domain that's missing it.



You are not required to create domain directories inside cmdaliases. XMail 
simply checks for the existance of files, and if it doesn't find them, it 
proceeds with local lookup (mailusers.tab).
  

But, if you delete a domain that is missing that directory, you get an 
error.


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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

 Davide Libenzi wrote:
 
 On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:
 
   
 
 For us that have been using Xmail for a lng time, the directory for 
 each domain under *cmdaliases* doesn't always exists, since they weren't 
 created by older versions of xmail... This only causes problems when 
 removing domains (or at least I think that's the only problem).  Not a 
 big deal, but it did throw me for a bit.  The change log when upgrading 
 to 1.2 did say you needed to make the cmdaliases directory, but I don't 
 recall it saying making a directory for each existing domain under it 
 was required... If it's not required no error should happen on removal 
 of a domain that's missing it.
 
 
 
 You are not required to create domain directories inside cmdaliases. XMail 
 simply checks for the existance of files, and if it doesn't find them, it 
 proceeds with local lookup (mailusers.tab).
   
 
 But, if you delete a domain that is missing that directory, you get an 
 error.

No wait. XMail does create domain directories inside cmdaliases when you 
create a domain with the CTRL interface.



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread John Kielkopf
Davide Libenzi wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

  

Davide Libenzi wrote:



On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

 

  

For us that have been using Xmail for a lng time, the directory for 
each domain under *cmdaliases* doesn't always exists, since they weren't 
created by older versions of xmail... This only causes problems when 
removing domains (or at least I think that's the only problem).  Not a 
big deal, but it did throw me for a bit.  The change log when upgrading 
to 1.2 did say you needed to make the cmdaliases directory, but I don't 
recall it saying making a directory for each existing domain under it 
was required... If it's not required no error should happen on removal 
of a domain that's missing it.
   



You are not required to create domain directories inside cmdaliases. XMail 
simply checks for the existance of files, and if it doesn't find them, it 
proceeds with local lookup (mailusers.tab).
 

  

But, if you delete a domain that is missing that directory, you get an 
error.



No wait. XMail does create domain directories inside cmdaliases when you 
create a domain with the CTRL interface.

  

Yes, but older versions of Xmail (  1.2 ) didn't, so many of my older 
domains don't have these directories.


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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, John Kielkopf wrote:

 Yes, but older versions of Xmail (  1.2 ) didn't, so many of my older 
 domains don't have these directories.

Ok, I'll put a check in 1.21 ...



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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-15 Thread John Kielkopf


Yes, but older versions of Xmail (  1.2 ) didn't, so many of my older 
domains don't have these directories.



Ok, I'll put a check in 1.21 ...
  


Thanks!


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[xmail] Re: Error message since updating to 1.20

2004-06-14 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004, Alex Young wrote:

 Hi,
 I keep receiving an error message when trying to send emails and I am
 stuck to what the problem may be. It wasn't doing this on version 1.18 so I
 don't know if something has changed to cause this error.
 
   Requested action aborted: (-19) local error in processing
 
 I looked up the error code and it says;
 
   ERR_FILE_OPEN (-19) Unable to open file
 
 Which file can it not open?

Does it happen right on connection? Try to match your MAIL_ROOT directory 
structure with the reference one that is listed inside the doc.



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