[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
Another yes vote please. Rob :-) _ Note To Self: Remember to put something witty here later... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin C. Hatch Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 8:31 AM To: xmail@xmailserver.org Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help I agree, XMailServer is awesome, but the ability for external SMTP authentication gets my vote. For my setup, users at my main domain are also system users and it would be nice if they could change their UNIX password and it be updated on their email address too. Kevin Williams wrote: Davide, Last year you tried to help me get this to work. You sent me a patch but it didn't solve the problem (something about the domain, perhaps?). I've been trying to get this to work for a couple of years now. There is plenty of interest and this isn't the first time the request has been posed. Not that XMailServer isn't awesome, but this would raise it another notch. Kevin Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Chris L. Franklin wrote: And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[ TAB]@@PASSWD No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? XMail has the ability to plug external authentications that works together with associated client counterparts. At the moment, there's no way to call out like POP3. I'll see how to fit this in, if there is an interest set with more than one element ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Scanned for viruses by ClamAV - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
Davide, Last year you tried to help me get this to work. You sent me a patch but it didn't solve the problem (something about the domain, perhaps?). I've been trying to get this to work for a couple of years now. There is plenty of interest and this isn't the first time the request has been posed. Not that XMailServer isn't awesome, but this would raise it another notch. Kevin Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Chris L. Franklin wrote: And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? XMail has the ability to plug external authentications that works together with associated client counterparts. At the moment, there's no way to call out like POP3. I'll see how to fit this in, if there is an interest set with more than one element ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Scanned for viruses by ClamAV - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
Davide I'm interested too for external smtp auth for clients on login, plain = and cram-md5 auth on a domain basis like pop3 ... Example in mind, for kerberos auth or radius auth for customers hosting = they own users lists and passwords .. I'm sure you will find the best solution... Francis -Message d'origine- De : Davide Libenzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : vendredi 28 janvier 2005 07:29 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Chris L. Franklin wrote: =20 XMail has the ability to plug external authentications that works = together=20 with associated client counterparts. At the moment, there's no way to = call=20 out like POP3. I'll see how to fit this in, if there is an interest set = with more than one element ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
I agree, XMailServer is awesome, but the ability for external SMTP authentication gets my vote. For my setup, users at my main domain are also system users and it would be nice if they could change their UNIX password and it be updated on their email address too. Kevin Williams wrote: Davide, Last year you tried to help me get this to work. You sent me a patch but it didn't solve the problem (something about the domain, perhaps?). I've been trying to get this to work for a couple of years now. There is plenty of interest and this isn't the first time the request has been posed. Not that XMailServer isn't awesome, but this would raise it another notch. Kevin Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Chris L. Franklin wrote: And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? XMail has the ability to plug external authentications that works together with associated client counterparts. At the moment, there's no way to call out like POP3. I'll see how to fit this in, if there is an interest set with more than one element ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Scanned for viruses by ClamAV - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
After reading again and again xmail doc about authentication methods, = you are true .. YOU CAN'T change xmail SMTP basic auth methods (LOGIN, PLAIN and = CRAM-MD5). Xmail allways use it's internal auth for this ... You could use a 'virtual' LOGIN2 verb but you need to tell you mua to specify this 'LOGIN2' !! and actualy don't know if exist a mua can do = this without patching it ... In xmail SMTP incoming users auth is not as customizable as POP3 users = auth (per domain, any auth method, replacing xmail auth for 'stantdard' auth methods ...)... This could be a xmail new feature to FIRST look at smtpextauth.tab and = use ANY external auth specified here EVEN if already managed by xmail. So = if xmail found a LOGIN or PLAIN or CRAM-MD5 in smtpextauth.tab it use THIS = and not its internal auth. The best way could finally be (xmail future ?) : - pop3 ext auth using xmailroot/userauth/pop3 for pop3 user = connecting to xmail - smtp ext auth using xmailroot/userauth/smtp-in for smtp user = connecting to xmail and xmail allways execute the ext auth program specified for the auth method even if xmail implements it ... like for pop3, domain.tab files permit you to specify different = programs and auth methods for different domains ! cool .. - smtp ext auth using xmailroot/userauth/smtp-out for xmail = connecting as a client against servers - no more need for smtpextauth.tab and smtpauth.tab (only for = compatibility ) Davide ? any comment ? Can you explain actual xmail Incoming smtp users authentication = (flowchart, files used, ...) ? I'm not sure I understood it well ... Francis -Message d'origine- De : Chris L. Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : jeudi 27 janvier 2005 05:00 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help .. .. .. EHLO out put: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5 LOGIN So basicly it looks like with smtpextauth.tab is that it's there not so = much to act like pop3's External Auth but to allow you to add your own = Auth=20 type to Xmail's Auth types (those being Login,plain,cram-md5). Or am i completely wrong? -- Chris L. Franklin -- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
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[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Chris L. Franklin wrote: And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? XMail has the ability to plug external authentications that works together with associated client counterparts. At the moment, there's no way to call out like POP3. I'll see how to fit this in, if there is an interest set with more than one element ;) - Davide - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
According to xmail doc, you should use SMTPEXTAUTH.TAB file ... It seems placement of files for custom authentifications is not as = 'mind' will think at first read ... except if I missunderstood the doc ... (and it can be, as English is = not my favorite langage ...) To enable xmail SERVER part to Authenticate a POP3 USER using an = EXTERNAL program use xmailroot/userauth/pop3 directory with domain.tab files To enable xmail SERVER part to Authenticate a SMTP USER using an = EXTERNAL program use xmailroot/smtpextauth.tab To enable xmail CLIENT part to BE authenticated using an EXTERNAL = program by a mail server (when xmail want to send out as a client) use xmailroot/userauth/smtp directory with domain.tab files And don't know where to insert SMTPAUTH.TAB ;-) In my mind, if userauth/pop3/... is used for external authentification for POP3 = (incoming) USERS, userauth/smtp/... should be used for external authentification for SMTP (incoming) USERS ... (this permit a by domain choice for external programs ...) and smtpextauth.tab for xmail AS a smtp client ... OR defining a more clear structure : userauth/pop3/... for xmail as a SERVER authenticating a incoming = client userauth/smtp-in/... for xmail as a SERVER authenticating a incoming = client userauth/smtp-out/... for xmail as a CLIENT to be authenticated by a OUTGOING smtp client (just some ideas ...) Francis -Message d'origine- De : Chris L. Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : mercredi 26 janvier 2005 15:39 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] SMTP external Auth help Okay So I got pop3 to auth against system account password with a = lightly=20 modded perl to pam script (some one else wrote and posted to this = list). [Code] [/Code] And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside = it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD= No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about = getting=20 smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find = the=20 XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external = program=20 / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like = the=20 pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? Help -- Chris L. Franklin --=20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
I too am wondering this. I have posted a few messages to this list and
have not yet received a reply. I would really like to be able to use
this feature, but do not know how yet. If someone has some info worth
sharing, please let us know.
Dustin C. Hatch
http://www.dchweb.com/
Chris L. Franklin wrote:
Okay So I got pop3 to auth against system account password with a lightly
modded perl to pam script (some one else wrote and posted to this list).
[Code]
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Authen::PAM;
# arguments: (1)user (2)password
my $username = shift;
my $password = shift;
if($username =~/(.+)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) {
$username=$1;
}
$service = passwd;
sub my_conv_func {
my @res;
while ( @_ ) {
my $code = shift;
my $msg = shift;
my $ans = ;
$ans = $username if ($code == PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_ON );
$ans = $password if ($code == PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_OFF );
push @res, (PAM_SUCCESS,$ans);
}
push @res, PAM_SUCCESS;
return @res;
}
ref($pamh = new Authen::PAM($service, $username, \my_conv_func)) ||
die Error code $pamh during PAM init!;
$res = $pamh-pam_authenticate;
exit($res);
[/Code]
And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it :
userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD
No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting
smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the
XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.)
XMail exmaples looks like this :
external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro
So when i break down the columns I see this:
external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program
/ script
auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain
secret : No clue ???
prog-path : Path to the script or program
arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE
Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the
pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ?
Help
-- Chris L. Franklin --
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[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
OKay so I thought i had this ting figured out, But seem not to have. But heres what I got. smtpextauth.tab LOGIN System-Auth /var/MailRoot/bin/Smtpauth.pl @@CHALL @@FSECRT @@DGEST Now Smtpauth.pl is a simple script that really just takes the 3 line args and outputs them to a log file (just to see what they'd say). But when ends up happening is well nothing except for the fact when i run a EHLO domain against my server it now lists TWO login Auth types and the script is ever run. EHLO out put: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5 LOGIN So basicly it looks like with smtpextauth.tab is that it's there not so much to act like pop3's External Auth but to allow you to add your own Auth type to Xmail's Auth types (those being Login,plain,cram-md5). Or am i completely wrong? -- Chris L. Franklin -- - Original Message - From: CLEMENT Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: xmail@xmailserver.org Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: [xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help According to xmail doc, you should use SMTPEXTAUTH.TAB file ... It seems placement of files for custom authentifications is not as = 'mind' will think at first read ... except if I missunderstood the doc ... (and it can be, as English is = not my favorite langage ...) To enable xmail SERVER part to Authenticate a POP3 USER using an = EXTERNAL program use xmailroot/userauth/pop3 directory with domain.tab files To enable xmail SERVER part to Authenticate a SMTP USER using an = EXTERNAL program use xmailroot/smtpextauth.tab To enable xmail CLIENT part to BE authenticated using an EXTERNAL = program by a mail server (when xmail want to send out as a client) use xmailroot/userauth/smtp directory with domain.tab files And don't know where to insert SMTPAUTH.TAB ;-) In my mind, if userauth/pop3/... is used for external authentification for POP3 = (incoming) USERS, userauth/smtp/... should be used for external authentification for SMTP (incoming) USERS ... (this permit a by domain choice for external programs ...) and smtpextauth.tab for xmail AS a smtp client ... OR defining a more clear structure : userauth/pop3/... for xmail as a SERVER authenticating a incoming = client userauth/smtp-in/... for xmail as a SERVER authenticating a incoming = client userauth/smtp-out/... for xmail as a CLIENT to be authenticated by a OUTGOING smtp client (just some ideas ...) Francis -Message d'origine- De : Chris L. Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy=E9 : mercredi 26 janvier 2005 15:39 =C0 : xmail@xmailserver.org Objet : [xmail] SMTP external Auth help Okay So I got pop3 to auth against system account password with a = lightly=20 modded perl to pam script (some one else wrote and posted to this = list). [Code] [/Code] And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside = it : userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD= No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about = getting=20 smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find = the=20 XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.) XMail exmaples looks like this : external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro So when i break down the columns I see this: external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external = program=20 / script auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain secret : No clue ??? prog-path : Path to the script or program arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like = the=20 pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ? Help -- Chris L. Franklin --=20 - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe xmail in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line help in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[xmail] Re: SMTP external Auth help
I might have been the original author, I'm not sure. At the time XMail
didn't support external SMTP authentication. Davide tried to help me
patch the source but it didn't work. AFAIK it still doesn't work, but I
haven't looked at it since about version 1.15.
Chris L. Franklin wrote:
Okay So I got pop3 to auth against system account password with a lightly
modded perl to pam script (some one else wrote and posted to this list).
[Code]
#!/usr/bin/perl
use Authen::PAM;
# arguments: (1)user (2)password
my $username = shift;
my $password = shift;
if($username =~/(.+)[EMAIL PROTECTED]/) {
$username=$1;
}
$service = passwd;
sub my_conv_func {
my @res;
while ( @_ ) {
my $code = shift;
my $msg = shift;
my $ans = ;
$ans = $username if ($code == PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_ON );
$ans = $password if ($code == PAM_PROMPT_ECHO_OFF );
push @res, (PAM_SUCCESS,$ans);
}
push @res, PAM_SUCCESS;
return @res;
}
ref($pamh = new Authen::PAM($service, $username, \my_conv_func)) ||
die Error code $pamh during PAM init!;
$res = $pamh-pam_authenticate;
exit($res);
[/Code]
And in my MailRoot/userauth/pop3 i created a '.tab' and put this inside it :
userauth[TAB]/var/MailRoot/bin/Authpam.pl[TAB]@@USER[TAB]@@PASSWD
No big deal pop3 work great. Now my problem is how could I go about getting
smtp to basicly work the same way ? (part of my problem is i don't find the
XMail docs (ReadMe) to be all that help full when it comes to this.)
XMail exmaples looks like this :
external auth-name secretprog-path arg-or-macro
So when i break down the columns I see this:
external: Write external here so that xmail knows to run a external program
/ script
auth-name : replace this with the smtp auth type cram-md5,login,plain
secret : No clue ???
prog-path : Path to the script or program
arg-or-macro : this can be @@CHALL,@@SECRT, and or @@RFILE
Basicly I've tryed everything I can think of to get this to work like the
pop3 auth. But i just can seem to grasp Somthing ?
Help
-- Chris L. Franklin --
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