RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
What do you mean the document is no longer valid ? If it verifies the References covered by the signature are valid. If the DN in the certificate refers to the same certifiacte as the friendly name in the KeyName, the KeyName is redundant. This is what I am doing. I am removing the Keyname for the verify and then putting it back in for consistency. Alternatively you can tell xmlsec which key sources to consult using the enabledKeyData list. I find this a pain and prefer to check the keys in each location myself. If you have created the signature yourself and are subsequently verifying it, you know they are the same. They should rarely differ. In fact I cannot think of an instance where the contents of X509Certificate should get overridden by KeyName in a Verify. Even when including issuer certificates, they end up as more than one X509Certificate. I buy that if X509Certifiate is not there one can consult KeyName, but rarely if ever the reverse. But that is just my opinion. I would like to see an order to the certificate search. Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jürgen Heiss Sent: June 1, 2006 2:40 AM To: Aleksey Sanin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Hi everybody, Well you are right, its really the Keyname. So if I remove the Keyname it works. But of course the document isn't anymore valid. Is there a way always to ignore the keyname and use the the certificate by verify a signed document? What is the xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData For? How must I use them? Thanks I advance. Jürgen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aleksey Sanin Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 22:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Yes xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes you are right !!! I forgot about that. > > You mean the "--enabled-key-data" list in the command line utility ? > Where is this in the API ? in the Ctx ? > > - Original Message > From: Aleksey Sanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Jürgen Heiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; xmlsec@aleksey.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:31:14 PM > Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify > > > Does it not make sense to check X509Certificate first ? Or must we > > consciously remove KeyName to avoid problems in the mscrypto world > where > the chances of actually having the public verification > certificate in > the verifiers mscrypto store is remote at best ? > > > I think, that either signer or verifier should decide if KeyName makes > sense for him/her or not. In xmlsec, there is a way to disable KeyName > usage for verification, for example. > > Aleksey ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec
RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Ups I think I don't understand something. I call the function if(xmlSecDSigCtxVerify(&dsigCtx, data->startNode) < 0) And how it look this function look in the KeyName and try to get the certificate from the registry. But of course the certificate isn't registered. So, what if have to do the load the certificate which is In the signed XML-doucument. How I can tell the function xmlSecDSigCtxVerify to get the certificate from the signed xml File and to don't try to look in the registry because there it will be not? So how I can handle this that I always load the certificate with which the document was signed. Thanks Jürgen -Original Message- From: Edward Shallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 01. Juni 2006 12:30 To: Jürgen Heiss; 'Aleksey Sanin'; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify What do you mean the document is no longer valid ? If it verifies the References covered by the signature are valid. If the DN in the certificate refers to the same certifiacte as the friendly name in the KeyName, the KeyName is redundant. This is what I am doing. I am removing the Keyname for the verify and then putting it back in for consistency. Alternatively you can tell xmlsec which key sources to consult using the enabledKeyData list. I find this a pain and prefer to check the keys in each location myself. If you have created the signature yourself and are subsequently verifying it, you know they are the same. They should rarely differ. In fact I cannot think of an instance where the contents of X509Certificate should get overridden by KeyName in a Verify. Even when including issuer certificates, they end up as more than one X509Certificate. I buy that if X509Certifiate is not there one can consult KeyName, but rarely if ever the reverse. But that is just my opinion. I would like to see an order to the certificate search. Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jürgen Heiss Sent: June 1, 2006 2:40 AM To: Aleksey Sanin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Hi everybody, Well you are right, its really the Keyname. So if I remove the Keyname it works. But of course the document isn't anymore valid. Is there a way always to ignore the keyname and use the the certificate by verify a signed document? What is the xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData For? How must I use them? Thanks I advance. Jürgen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aleksey Sanin Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 22:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Yes xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes you are right !!! I forgot about that. > > You mean the "--enabled-key-data" list in the command line utility ? > Where is this in the API ? in the Ctx ? > > - Original Message > From: Aleksey Sanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Jürgen Heiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; xmlsec@aleksey.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:31:14 PM > Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify > > > Does it not make sense to check X509Certificate first ? Or must we > > consciously remove KeyName to avoid problems in the mscrypto world > where > the chances of actually having the public verification > certificate in > the verifiers mscrypto store is remote at best ? > > > I think, that either signer or verifier should decide if KeyName makes > sense for him/her or not. In xmlsec, there is a way to disable KeyName > usage for verification, for example. > > Aleksey ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec
RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
My point exactly !!! If X509Certificate is there, then one can only assume the signer wants you to use it. In xmlsec we are using the KeyName at "signing time" for convenience. It does stay in the signature though. The problem is KeyName gets in the way when verifying. Again, I would vote for precedence order. Check X509Certificate first. If KeyName is the same (i.e. CN= from X509Certificate is the same as friendly-name in KeyName) DO NOT GO TO MS Cert Store as they are the same and the in-signature certificate is fine. Beside the public cert will not be in the cert store anyway !!! Aleksey ? Ed -Original Message- From: Jürgen Heiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 1, 2006 6:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aleksey Sanin; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Ups I think I don't understand something. I call the function if(xmlSecDSigCtxVerify(&dsigCtx, data->startNode) < 0) And how it look this function look in the KeyName and try to get the certificate from the registry. But of course the certificate isn't registered. So, what if have to do the load the certificate which is In the signed XML-doucument. How I can tell the function xmlSecDSigCtxVerify to get the certificate from the signed xml File and to don't try to look in the registry because there it will be not? So how I can handle this that I always load the certificate with which the document was signed. Thanks Jürgen -Original Message- From: Edward Shallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 01. Juni 2006 12:30 To: Jürgen Heiss; 'Aleksey Sanin'; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify What do you mean the document is no longer valid ? If it verifies the References covered by the signature are valid. If the DN in the certificate refers to the same certifiacte as the friendly name in the KeyName, the KeyName is redundant. This is what I am doing. I am removing the Keyname for the verify and then putting it back in for consistency. Alternatively you can tell xmlsec which key sources to consult using the enabledKeyData list. I find this a pain and prefer to check the keys in each location myself. If you have created the signature yourself and are subsequently verifying it, you know they are the same. They should rarely differ. In fact I cannot think of an instance where the contents of X509Certificate should get overridden by KeyName in a Verify. Even when including issuer certificates, they end up as more than one X509Certificate. I buy that if X509Certifiate is not there one can consult KeyName, but rarely if ever the reverse. But that is just my opinion. I would like to see an order to the certificate search. Ed -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jürgen Heiss Sent: June 1, 2006 2:40 AM To: Aleksey Sanin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Hi everybody, Well you are right, its really the Keyname. So if I remove the Keyname it works. But of course the document isn't anymore valid. Is there a way always to ignore the keyname and use the the certificate by verify a signed document? What is the xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData For? How must I use them? Thanks I advance. Jürgen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aleksey Sanin Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 22:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify Yes xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData Aleksey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Yes you are right !!! I forgot about that. > > You mean the "--enabled-key-data" list in the command line utility ? > Where is this in the API ? in the Ctx ? > > - Original Message > From: Aleksey Sanin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Jürgen Heiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; xmlsec@aleksey.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:31:14 PM > Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify > > > Does it not make sense to check X509Certificate first ? Or must we > > consciously remove KeyName to avoid problems in the mscrypto world > where > the chances of actually having the public verification > certificate in > the verifiers mscrypto store is remote at best ? > > > I think, that either signer or verifier should decide if KeyName makes > sense for him/her or not. In xmlsec, there is a way to disable KeyName > usage for verification, for example. > > Aleksey ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list x
RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Alright I can follow you, but I don't know how to check the x509 certificate
now?
if(xmlSecDSigCtxVerify(&dsigCtx, data->startNode) < 0)
{
xmlSecDSigCtxFinalize(&dsigCtx);
if(data != NULL)
xmlSecAppXmlDataDestroy(data);
return V_NOSIGNATUR;
}
if ( dsigCtx.signKey == NULL )
return V_NOSIGNATUR;
key = dsigCtx.signKey;
size = xmlSecPtrListGetSize(key->dataList);
sdata = (*((dsigCtx).signKey)).dataList;
for(pos = 0; pos < size; ++pos)
{
tmp = (xmlSecKeyDataPtr)xmlSecPtrListGetItem(key->dataList,
pos);
x509 = xmlSecMSCryptoKeyDataX509GetCert(tmp,pos);
[]
How can I get access on the X509 Certifiacte.
-Original Message-
From: Edward Shallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Donnerstag, 01. Juni 2006 13:54
To: Jürgen Heiss; 'Aleksey Sanin'; xmlsec@aleksey.com
Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
My point exactly !!!
If X509Certificate is there, then one can only assume the signer wants you to
use it. In xmlsec we are using the KeyName at "signing time" for convenience.
It does stay in the signature though. The problem is KeyName gets in the way
when verifying. Again, I would vote for precedence order.
Check X509Certificate first. If KeyName is the same (i.e. CN= from
X509Certificate is the same as friendly-name in KeyName) DO NOT GO TO MS Cert
Store as they are the same and the in-signature certificate is fine.
Beside the public cert will not be in the cert store anyway !!!
Aleksey ?
Ed
-Original Message-
From: Jürgen Heiss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 1, 2006 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Aleksey Sanin; xmlsec@aleksey.com
Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Ups I think I don't understand something.
I call the function
if(xmlSecDSigCtxVerify(&dsigCtx, data->startNode) < 0)
And how it look this function look in the KeyName and try to get the
certificate from the registry.
But of course the certificate isn't registered. So, what if have to do the load
the certificate which is In the signed XML-doucument. How I can tell the
function xmlSecDSigCtxVerify to get the certificate from the signed xml File
and to don't try to look in the registry because there it will be not?
So how I can handle this that I always load the certificate with which the
document was signed.
Thanks
Jürgen
-Original Message-
From: Edward Shallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Donnerstag, 01. Juni 2006 12:30
To: Jürgen Heiss; 'Aleksey Sanin'; xmlsec@aleksey.com
Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
What do you mean the document is no longer valid ?
If it verifies the References covered by the signature are valid. If the DN in
the certificate refers to the same certifiacte as the friendly name in the
KeyName, the KeyName is redundant. This is what I am doing. I am removing the
Keyname for the verify and then putting it back in for consistency.
Alternatively you can tell xmlsec which key sources to consult using the
enabledKeyData list. I find this a pain and prefer to check the keys in each
location myself. If you have created the signature yourself and are
subsequently verifying it, you know they are the same. They should rarely
differ. In fact I cannot think of an instance where the contents of
X509Certificate should get overridden by KeyName in a Verify. Even when
including issuer certificates, they end up as more than one X509Certificate.
I buy that if X509Certifiate is not there one can consult KeyName, but rarely
if ever the reverse. But that is just my opinion. I would like to see an order
to the certificate search.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jürgen Heiss
Sent: June 1, 2006 2:40 AM
To: Aleksey Sanin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com
Subject: RE: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Hi everybody,
Well you are right, its really the Keyname. So if I remove the Keyname it works.
But of course the document isn't anymore valid. Is there a way always to ignore
the keyname and use the the certificate by verify a signed document?
What is the
xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData
xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData
For? How must I use them?
Thanks I advance.
Jürgen
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aleksey Sanin
Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2006 22:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; xmlsec@aleksey.com
Subject: Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Yes
xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoReadCtx->enabledKeyData
xmlSecDSigCtx::keyInfoWriteCtx->enabledKeyData
Aleksey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Yes you are right !!! I forgot about that.
>
> You mean the "--enabled-key-data" list in the command line utility ?
> Where is this in the API ? in the Ctx ?
>
> - Original Message
> From:
Re: [xmlsec] RE: Need urgent help for verify
Take a look at xmlsec.exe sources and search for enabledKeyData Aleksey Jürgen Heiss wrote: Ups I think I don't understand something. I call the function if(xmlSecDSigCtxVerify(&dsigCtx, data->startNode) < 0) And how it look this function look in the KeyName and try to get the certificate from the registry. But of course the certificate isn't registered. So, what if have to do the load the certificate which is In the signed XML-doucument. How I can tell the function xmlSecDSigCtxVerify to get the certificate from the signed xml File and to don't try to look in the registry because there it will be not? So how I can handle this that I always load the certificate with which the document was signed. Thanks Jürgen ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec
Re: [xmlsec] Dealing with XAdES documents
Hello lanjelot wrote: Hi all I am starting some work that deals with XAdES signed documents. I will need to create and verify data in a XAdES form. It's a good news. Now I reading the GNU DigiDoc(OpenXAdES.org) document. http://sourceforge.net/projects/gdigidoc http://www.openxades.org/ I coud not read some document. Because the document written by estonian.:-P And the GNU DigiDoc support only OCSP without CRL. Takahiro And i was wondering if going with libxmlsec was the best way to do that. I am not sure that libxmlsec provides a straight way to work with XAdES. If not, maybe there is still a not too complicated workaround ? Or should i go with openxades ? Thanks for your help ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec ___ xmlsec mailing list xmlsec@aleksey.com http://www.aleksey.com/mailman/listinfo/xmlsec
