Re: [Question] vesa driver with RandR 1.2

2009-04-11 Thread Jerome Glisse
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 16:22 +0900, Kan-I Jyo wrote:
> 2009/4/10 Alex Deucher :
> > On 4/10/09, Kan-I Jyo  wrote:
> >> Dear list,
> >>
> >>  I am currently using xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.3.0 along with
> >>  xrandr 1.2 on one of my laptop.
> >>
> >>  It is to my curiosity that is there any support on RandR in vesa
> >>  driver since it seems to fail detecting an external monitor.
> >>
> >>  I have taken a look on the git tree of vesa driver and it seems
> >>  that support for RandR 1.2 is on the TODO list.
> >>
> >>  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-vesa/tree/src/vesa.c
> >>
> >>  
> >>  ... snip ...
> >>  /*
> >>   * TODO:
> >>   * - PanelID might give us useful size hints.
> >>   * - Port to RANDR 1.2 setup to make mode selection slightly better
> >>   * - Port to RANDR 1.2 to drop the old-school DGA junk
> >>   * - VBE/SCI for secondary DDC method?
> >>   */
> >>  ... snip ...
> >>
> >>
> >>  Is there any means to use the external monitor with vesa driver?
> >
> > If you boot with your laptop lid closed, you can probably get the
> > external display to work with vesa.  Multi-head is not really possible
> > with vesa.   If you want multi-head or the ability to switch outputs,
> > use a native driver for your hardware.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> 
> Dear Alex,
> 
> Thank you for your prompt reply.
> 
> It is to my surprise that the vesa driver does not support multi-head
> display currently ( I assumed that it does). Is this going to be
> implemented or using a native driver is the only means?
> 

VESA standard is more than 10 years old, back in the day dual monitor
only existed on expensive workstation and they definitly weren't using
vesa to drive things. So no it won't ever happen with vesa and you
will need native driver, anyway native driver (at least for the most
common gpu manufacturer) are way faster than vesa.

Cheers,
Jerome Glisse

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Re: luit forked?

2009-04-11 Thread Saleem Abdulrasool
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Alan Coopersmith
wrote:

> Our i18n team recently fixed a bug in luit and asked me to help
> upstream it - while doing so, I found there's actually two luit
> forks out there - one maintained with xterm and one maintained
> with the rest of the Xorg modules:
>
>http://invisible-island.net/luit/luit.html
>http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/app/luit
>
> Is there any reason we should have two forks of this?   Which one
> do most distros ship?
>

exherbo has the xorg version.

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Re: Documentation?

2009-04-11 Thread David Sharp
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Ross Burton  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 17:41 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I have NDI why they just
>> can't send the pw to my recorded email addy and leave it otherwise
>> alone.
>
> I'd imagine for the same reason that you can't just read other user's
> passwords from /etc/(passwd,shadow): they are stored hashed so that
> leaking the password data doesn't leak the passwords themselves.

Also, email is not a secure mode of communication.

>
> Ross
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mouse pointer acceleration without threshold?

2009-04-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks,

Maybe a stupid question, but I haven't seen it answered anywhere:

How can I disable the mouse pointer threshold to get a fast mouse
with a constant acceleration (e.g. for gaming)? Something like
'xset m 3 0' doesn't work, AFAICS. 'xset m 1 0' does work, but this
is way too slow on a big screen.

Platform is Linux. xorg is 1.6, xset is 1.0.4. The mouse is a
Logitech Trackman FX.


Many thanx

Harri






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Re: luit forked?

2009-04-11 Thread Simon Thum
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Is there any reason we should have two forks of this?   Which one
> do most distros ship?
On gentoo:
[I] x11-apps/luit
[...]
  Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/

Not a proof, though.

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Re: [Question] vesa driver with RandR 1.2

2009-04-11 Thread Kan-I Jyo
2009/4/10 Alex Deucher :
> On 4/10/09, Kan-I Jyo  wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>>  I am currently using xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1.3.0 along with
>>  xrandr 1.2 on one of my laptop.
>>
>>  It is to my curiosity that is there any support on RandR in vesa
>>  driver since it seems to fail detecting an external monitor.
>>
>>  I have taken a look on the git tree of vesa driver and it seems
>>  that support for RandR 1.2 is on the TODO list.
>>
>>  http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-vesa/tree/src/vesa.c
>>
>>  
>>  ... snip ...
>>  /*
>>   * TODO:
>>   * - PanelID might give us useful size hints.
>>   * - Port to RANDR 1.2 setup to make mode selection slightly better
>>   * - Port to RANDR 1.2 to drop the old-school DGA junk
>>   * - VBE/SCI for secondary DDC method?
>>   */
>>  ... snip ...
>>
>>
>>  Is there any means to use the external monitor with vesa driver?
>
> If you boot with your laptop lid closed, you can probably get the
> external display to work with vesa.  Multi-head is not really possible
> with vesa.   If you want multi-head or the ability to switch outputs,
> use a native driver for your hardware.
>
> Alex
>

Dear Alex,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

It is to my surprise that the vesa driver does not support multi-head
display currently ( I assumed that it does). Is this going to be
implemented or using a native driver is the only means?

-- 
Sincerely,

Jyo
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Re: [PATCH 0/4] xkb core->xkb conversion fixes

2009-04-11 Thread Thomas Fritzsche
Hello Peter,
sorry for late reply. Great,.. Works! I downported to the version of
my distribution (1.5.2) and compiled a single patch out of it:
http://linux.pengin.de/#keyboard
Would be great to have it committed (if not already done).
Cheers, Thomas


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Peter Hutterer  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:45:19PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
>>
>> Thomas, here's the set of patches that appears to fix the problem. It's a
>> combination of some bugs and insanity in the XKB protocol.
>
> Great. that didn't work out as planned.
>
> You need the following patches, in this order:
> xkb: ensure enough symbols for core Group1 replication.
> xkb: don't replicate past the number of groups we have.
> xkb: explicitly check for group replication in the core representation.
> xkb: don't treat groups with different no of symbols as identical.
>
> Cheers,
>  Peter
>
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