Re: Restoring Xhost Connection

2010-07-09 Thread Antoine Martin
On 07/09/2010 03:21 AM, Liew, Philip wrote:
 
 
 Hi,
 
  
 
 I just have a question regarding restoring lost X connections.
 
  
 
 I was running an application remotely through X and during the course of
 the day that connection dropped.  The application was still running but
 I was no longer able to view the application on my desktop.
 
 Is it possible to somehow restore that connection or open a new one such
 that I don’t need to kill and restart the application?
You need to use something like NX or Xpra.

Antoine

PS: this question has nothing to do with xhost


 
  
 
 Thanks,
 
  
 
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Re: Platform Specific

2010-07-09 Thread Gaetan Nadon
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 16:34 -0700, David G wrote:

 I have walked through building individual components one by one in
 attempt to learn what depends on what and have a much better grasp on
 some of the dependencies than I did a couple days ago however I am
 still lacking knowledge. What would be very helpful would be docs
 which explain each component so I can (hopefully) choose which is
 needed and which isn't.
 

Last week I wanted to have a minimally configured xserver for build
related work. I did a brain dead job of compiling
an xserver with the minimum packages possible. No idea if it actually
works.

This is the list of packages, in build order, that will compile,
including their configuration options:


util/macros 
font/util   
./pixman
proto/xproto
proto/kbproto   
proto/xextproto 
proto/inputproto
lib/libXau  
xcb/proto   
xcb/pthread-stubs   
xcb/libxcb  
lib/libxtrans   
lib/libX11  
proto/bigreqsproto  
proto/damageproto   
proto/fixesproto
proto/fontsproto
proto/inputproto
proto/kbproto   
proto/randrproto
proto/renderproto   
proto/videoproto
proto/xcmiscproto   
proto/xextproto 
proto/xproto
lib/libxkbfile  
lib/libfontenc  
lib/libXfont--disable-freetype
lib/libpciaccess
./xserver   --disable-glx --disable-dri --disable-composite 
--disable-record --disable-screensaver --disable-xres --disable-xinerama


This was done on Ubuntu Jaunty on AMD64. There may be non xorg
dependencies that are part of the distro that I am not aware of. You may
also want to disable document generation using --disable-specs
--disable-docs or --disable-devel-docs.

You can export PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/dev/null to ensure you do not link to
dependencies you are not aware of.
 
This is the list of pkg-config files that I ended-up with at the end of
the build:



bigreqsproto.pc
damageproto.pc
fixesproto.pc
fontenc.pc
fontsproto.pc
fontutil.pc
inputproto.pc
kbproto.pc
pciaccess.pc
pixman-1.pc
pthread-stubs.pc
randrproto.pc
renderproto.pc
videoproto.pc
x11.pc
x11-xcb.pc
xau.pc
xcb-composite.pc
xcb-damage.pc
xcb-dpms.pc
xcb-dri2.pc
xcb-glx.pc
xcb.pc
xcb-proto.pc
xcb-randr.pc
xcb-record.pc
xcb-render.pc
xcb-res.pc
xcb-screensaver.pc
xcb-shape.pc
xcb-shm.pc
xcb-sync.pc
xcb-xevie.pc
xcb-xf86dri.pc
xcb-xfixes.pc
xcb-xinerama.pc
xcb-xprint.pc
xcb-xtest.pc
xcb-xvmc.pc
xcb-xv.pc
xcmiscproto.pc
xextproto.pc
xfont.pc
xkbfile.pc
xorg-server.pc
xproto.pc




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Re: strange terminal-emulators-only behaviour: broken key-map?

2010-07-09 Thread Simone
  strangely it seems that *only* my gnome-terminal/xterm stopped to
 correctly map my keyboard (pc105). Other applications (gedit,
 openoffice,...) still work correctly.
 For example, if I type shift+3, I should get the £ character but I
 get #+return and èéàç keys are no longer working, printing out
 empty spaces. Same behavior in xterm or other terminals...
 I also tried the fr layout with the same result: £ is mapped to 
 #+return.

Today I discovered that the behavior is related to the BASH shell
only. When I I use the SH shell, the terminal's keymap works as
expected. I cannot figure out why the interaction between BASH and
x-terminals is broken, any idea?


Simone
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Re: strange terminal-emulators-only behaviour: broken key-map?

2010-07-09 Thread Thomas Lübking
Am Friday 09 July 2010 schrieb Simone:
 Today I discovered that the behavior is related to the BASH shell
 only. When I I use the SH shell, the terminal's keymap works as
 expected. I cannot figure out why the interaction between BASH and
 x-terminals is broken, any idea?
xmodmap (or similar) calls in ~/.bashrc, /etc/bash.bashrc?

Thomas
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Re: X Server Cursor Option

2010-07-09 Thread Simon Farnsworth
On Friday 9 July 2010, Chris Healy cphe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Simon,
 
 I saw your name as being the author for this change so I thought I would go
 straight to you with my question.
 
Please don't omit a relevant mailing list when doing this - by all means CC me 
in, but I don't always have time to answer questions, and including the 
mailing list helps you get a timely answer.

 I have an embedded touchscreen device that should normally not have the
 cursor visible, thus I want to use the -nocursor option, but for debugging
 purposes, I need to be able to plug a mouse in and have a visible cursor.
 (Because this is for debugging purposes, restarting the X Server is not an
 option.)
 
 Is there a way to make the cursor visible again without restarting the X
 Server?
This is very deliberately not possible with the -nocursor option - it aims to 
ensure that the cursor cannot be displayed no matter how hard X applications 
try.

You want to look at the XFixes extension - the -nocursor option simply alters 
the cursor behaviour to act as if a HideCursor request is in force for all 
possible windows.
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Re: Radeon RS482 video memory changing

2010-07-09 Thread Alex Deucher
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Dark Guard darkg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings guys.

 In first place, I want to say a great «thanks!» to you all. Your work at the
 field of X programming and creation of the perfect  stable video drivers is
 really outstanding!

 But, unfortunately, a little occasion with video has been observing on my
 laptop.

 The cover story:
   Recently, I forced my Dell Inspiron 1501n up with a new
 LinuxMint_x86_x64 release as well as x86-free-radeon driver. Before this
 migration, I used PCLinuxOS which have x86_32 support and Ati proprietary
 driver also included. My laptop, mentioned above, contains Turion MK-36
 (x86_64), 1 Gb of Ram  Xpress 200M IGP.
 I didn't make much attention of free ram available before, but due to
 switching to x86_64 I had to.

 Certainly, the performance raised up, but the system free memory became an
 extremely low (I expected a variety of decrementation, but not in so
 terrifying amount). Therefore, I tried to change the situation by lowering a
 video memory range.

 By default, there are 256 Mbs of UMA+SidePort memory the system reserves to.
 This option merely is not presented in BIOS  in the official Catalist
 Control Center for linux(in my old distributive by the way) is not presented
 too.

 I've read a plenty of docs - Xorg mailing list archives, FAQ, all radeon's
 driver guideline, but the only stuff I have found to play with - is option
 «VideoRam» / «in Kb» in device section of xorg.conf (and unfortunately it
 doesn't work).

 The question:
        Is there any possibility to minimize a video ram value using
 x86-free-radeon or for now it's not available?


The only way to change the amount of ram used for vram is via a bios option.

Alex

 The output of uname, xorg.log  dmesg:

 uname -a
 Linux laptop 2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010
 x86_64 GNU/Linux

 dmesg | grep drm

 [    0.00] Linux version 2.6.32-21-generic (bui...@yellow) (gcc version
 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:09:38 UTC 2010
 (Ubuntu 2.6.32-21.32-generic 2.6.32.11+drm33.2)
 [    0.973135] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
 [    2.046113] [drm] radeon defaulting to kernel modesetting.
 [    2.046117] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.
 [    2.050797] [drm] radeon: Initializing kernel modesetting.
 [    2.050876] [drm] register mmio base: 0xB010
 [    2.050878] [drm] register mmio size: 65536
 [    2.051233] [drm] GPU reset succeed (RBBM_STATUS=0x0140)
 [    2.051246] [drm:rs400_gart_adjust_size] *ERROR* Forcing to 32M GART size
 (because of ASIC bug ?)
 [    2.051250] [drm] Generation 2 PCI interface, using max accessible memory
 [    2.051252] [drm] radeon: VRAM 256M
 [    2.051254] [drm] radeon: VRAM from 0x3000 to 0x3FFF
 [    2.051256] [drm] radeon: GTT 32M
 [    2.051258] [drm] radeon: GTT from 0x4000 to 0x41FF
 [    2.051281] [drm] radeon: irq initialized.
 [    2.051516] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=256M, BAR=256M
 [    2.051522] [drm] RAM width 128bits DDR
 [    2.051655] [drm] radeon: 256M of VRAM memory ready
 [    2.051657] [drm] radeon: 32M of GTT memory ready.
 [    2.051679] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 8192, num gpu pages 8192
 [    2.052077] [drm] radeon: 2 quad pipes, 1 z pipes initialized.
 [    2.052095] [drm] radeon: cp idle (0x1C03)
 [    2.052142] [drm] Loading R300 Microcode
 [    2.056474] [drm] radeon: ring at 0x4000
 [    2.056496] [drm] ring test succeeded in 1 usecs
 [    2.056629] [drm] radeon: ib pool ready.
 [    2.056706] [drm] ib test succeeded in 0 usecs
 [    2.056837] [drm] Panel ID String: SEC
 [    2.056839] [drm] Panel Size 1280x800
 [    2.056882] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors
 [    2.056884] [drm] Connector 0:
 [    2.056885] [drm]   VGA
 [    2.056888] [drm]   DDC: 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68 0x68
 [    2.056889] [drm]   Encoders:
 [    2.056891] [drm] CRT1: INTERNAL_DAC2
 [    2.056893] [drm] Connector 1:
 [    2.056894] [drm]   LVDS
 [    2.056896] [drm]   DDC: 0x198 0x198 0x19c 0x19c 0x1a0 0x1a0 0x1a4 0x1a4
 [    2.056898] [drm]   Encoders:
 [    2.056900] [drm] LCD1: INTERNAL_LVDS
 [    2.207975] [drm] fb mappable at 0xC004
 [    2.207979] [drm] vram apper at 0xC000
 [    2.207981] [drm] size 4096000
 [    2.207982] [drm] fb depth is 24
 [    2.207984] [drm]    pitch is 5120
 [    2.208225] fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device
 [    2.208252] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for :01:05.0 on
 minor

 P.S. xorg.conf is inserted as file

 With best regards, Sergey.

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Re: Platform Specific

2010-07-09 Thread David G
While I have not yet located answers to all my questions I did just
happen across some helpful bits in the git tree of which have recent
changes. For anyone else looking for dependency and module lists and
some relational information you may useful the scripts and lists at:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/util/modular/tree/

Specifically the xorg.modules and xorg-7.0 modules as well as the
various build scripts have provided me some additional information
regarding dependency and build ordering and such.


-D


On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:34 PM, David G daveg68+list-x...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am attempting to build kdrive (or xorg) for several specific
 platforms (via cross compiling) and my goal is to end up with just
 enough of a feature set to fire up rdesktop/vnc or other apps without
 a window manager and as the only running app. Obviously with
 keyboard/mouse functionality.

 After reading much of the wiki and other sources regarding kdrive and
 modular xorg I still am at a loss as to what the minimum
 requirements/dependencies are for a kdrive server and including
 platform specific video driver. Can anyone shed some light on bare
 minimum dependencies for kdrive + video driver and/or point me in the
 direction of where to continue reading?

 I have walked through building individual components one by one in
 attempt to learn what depends on what and have a much better grasp on
 some of the dependencies than I did a couple days ago however I am
 still lacking knowledge. What would be very helpful would be docs
 which explain each component so I can (hopefully) choose which is
 needed and which isn't.

 For example I see the xorg-server configure option
 --disable-screensaver which is what I prefer...don't need one, does
 this mean that scrnsaverproto is not needed then? If this device will
 never be rendering video or 3d what more can I disable and/or not have
 to install?

 Is libXau, pixman, libXfont, etc even needed?

 I don't mind readinging/researching deeper if someone can point me to
 more information about the relationship and dependencies between the
 various components.

 Thanks in advance for any assistance.


 -D

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Re: X Server Cursor Option

2010-07-09 Thread Simon Farnsworth
I've asked you to ensure that you keep a relevant mailing list in the loop. 
Please respect my request - I made it for good reasons.

I honestly can't answer your questions - I never need the X cursor, so it 
suits me to have it completely disabled and impossible to re-enable. I pointed 
you at XFixes, because I believe that the code used by the HideCursor request 
is closely related to the code that the -nocursor option amends.

If you keep this on the xorg mailing list, rather than insisting on mailing me 
privately, you may get helpful answers from other people.

On Friday 9 July 2010, Chris Healy cphe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Simon,
 
 So, if I understand what I've just read, I would use the xfixes extensions
 within the applications that I don't want to see a cursor over?
 
 I have four seperate GUI's that will run on this embedded device:
 
 Firefox GUI
 Java GUI
 Clutter GUI
 Mono GUI
 
 Basically, I'd have to add code to each of my applications?
 
 Chris
 
 (BTW - Are you on IRC?  I'm cph1234 on freenode)
 
 On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Simon Farnsworth 
 
 simon.farnswo...@onelan.co.uk wrote:
  On Friday 9 July 2010, Chris Healy cphe...@gmail.com wrote:
   Simon,
   
   I saw your name as being the author for this change so I thought I
   would
  
  go
  
   straight to you with my question.
  
  Please don't omit a relevant mailing list when doing this - by all means
  CC me
  in, but I don't always have time to answer questions, and including the
  mailing list helps you get a timely answer.
  
   I have an embedded touchscreen device that should normally not have the
   cursor visible, thus I want to use the -nocursor option, but for
  
  debugging
  
   purposes, I need to be able to plug a mouse in and have a visible
   cursor. (Because this is for debugging purposes, restarting the X
   Server is not
  
  an
  
   option.)
   
   Is there a way to make the cursor visible again without restarting the
   X Server?
  
  This is very deliberately not possible with the -nocursor option - it
  aims to
  ensure that the cursor cannot be displayed no matter how hard X
  applications
  try.
  
  You want to look at the XFixes extension - the -nocursor option simply
  alters
  the cursor behaviour to act as if a HideCursor request is in force for
  all possible windows.
  --
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  Software Engineer
  ONELAN Limited
  http://www.onelan.com/
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Re: strange terminal-emulators-only behaviour: broken key-map?

2010-07-09 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 05:03:53PM +0200, Simone wrote:
   strangely it seems that *only* my gnome-terminal/xterm stopped to
  correctly map my keyboard (pc105). Other applications (gedit,
  openoffice,...) still work correctly.
  For example, if I type shift+3, I should get the £ character but I
  get #+return and èéàç keys are no longer working, printing out
  empty spaces. Same behavior in xterm or other terminals...
  I also tried the fr layout with the same result: £ is mapped to 
  #+return.
 
 Today I discovered that the behavior is related to the BASH shell
 only. When I I use the SH shell, the terminal's keymap works as
 expected. I cannot figure out why the interaction between BASH and
 x-terminals is broken, any idea?

Check /etc/inputrc or ~/.inputrc for suspicious settings.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: Virtual desktop - smaller than display

2010-07-09 Thread Alex Deucher
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Martin Langhoff
 martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Alex Deucher alexdeuc...@gmail.com wrote:
 if your hw supports a scaler, just set the smaller mode and have it
 scale up to the larger screen mode.  If not, you'll have to mess with
 the h/v border widths in the modeline to generate a center mode.

 Hmmm. Interesting. Does it work on LCDs? How do I calculate that?

 Current modeline is (from Xorg.0.log)

 1200x900 x50.6 57.27 1200 1208 1216 1240 900 905 908 912 -hsync -vsync


 Something like:
 http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/airlied/drm-2.6.git;a=blob;f=drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_lvds.c;h=31df55f0a0a7950a0e59ebce556fc30cde35b891;hb=refs/heads/drm-next#l276

 Not working at all for me unfortunately. Maybe I am flunking the
 modeline math, but I think that this specific driver (openchrome) has
 special hardcoded magic for our display.

 That modeline is what Xorg reports when it autodetects the modeline --
 using the exact same modeline via explicit declaration kills the
 display. So this driver ain't a friend of modeline tweaking.


The modeline used by the hardware may not be what's reported to X.
You'll have to check the source to see how the driver handles it.

Alex

 Do we have a VirtualAndIMeanIt stanza?



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