Re: Old System, New Install Isuue
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:55:13 -0700 From: James Butler jbut...@uniteddefensegroup.com Alan Coopersmith wrote: James Butler wrote: Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard? Xfb sounds like it would work for me. Basically I need something that will run continuously in the background (daemon-like), rather than during a VNC session. Xvnc can be run continuously, daemon-like. I do it all the time. I've never used Xvfb, so I can't say which is better. - Patrick ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Old System, New Install Isuue
Magnus Kessler wrote:
On Tuesday 28 April 2009, James Butler wrote:
Hello!
Fedora Core 4 (Linux 2.6.17-1)
yum install xorg-x11 (v.6.8.2)
This is a headless dedicated system with FC4 pre-installed by the
hosting service. It is one of hundreds in a remote rack. I have no
direct access to the system.
I have been running and updating this system using the CLI for about 3
years, however I now need some sort of X system running if I want to run
VisualChat software for my users. Its Java programming requires a
windows manager (X) when run on a Linux box.
Since I had no X installed on this system, I used yum to install it,
seemingly without any issues. All of the dependencies (i.e. xinit) were
successfully installed, as well.
After installing xorg-x11, I ran X -configure to generate a
system-specific config file. I am now stuck with the server failing to
start and generating no error messages that I can act upon.
Executing 'X -config /user/xorg.conf.new', I see this midway through the
Xorg.0.log file:
Xorg.0.log snippet start ==
(II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, \
size: (0,0)
...
(II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe A:
(II) I810(0):CRT
(==) I810(0): Display is using Pipe A
...
(II) I810(0): Will use BIOS call 0x5f05 to set refresh rates for CRTs.
log end ==
And then this at the end of the log (when everything halts):
Xorg.0.log snippet start ==
...
(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices
(WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring \
the saved state
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
(II) I810(0): BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting refresh with \
VBE 3 method.
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
...
{unbind key 0,1,3,2,4,5,6 follow}
...
(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (2)
log end ==
boom. It gets no further.
So a BIOS failure to call 0x5f05 would seem to indicate a problem
getting the (non-existent) monitor to initialize.
Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard?
Shall I post the full Xorg.0.log and my xorg.conf.new file?
I appreciate any guidance.
James
Hi James,
depending on the exact needs of the Java software you want to install you
might be able to do it without an X environment at all.
Have you tried running Java in headless mode (java -Djava.awt.headless=true)
as documented on
http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/headless/ ? I
presume that you only need a graphical environment during installation and
that the software is later used over the web. Some installers I've seen fall
back to character output when run in headless mode.
HTH,
Magnus
Magnus, headless sounds ideal. Unfortunately, a
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError gets thrown when I invoke headless with
the current applet. No doubt because the applet is completely unaware of
headless, and would need to be rewritten to use it, at least in parts.
Bummage.
Thank you very much for the suggestion.
James
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Old System, New Install Isuue
Hello!
Fedora Core 4 (Linux 2.6.17-1)
yum install xorg-x11 (v.6.8.2)
This is a headless dedicated system with FC4 pre-installed by the
hosting service. It is one of hundreds in a remote rack. I have no
direct access to the system.
I have been running and updating this system using the CLI for about 3
years, however I now need some sort of X system running if I want to run
VisualChat software for my users. Its Java programming requires a
windows manager (X) when run on a Linux box.
Since I had no X installed on this system, I used yum to install it,
seemingly without any issues. All of the dependencies (i.e. xinit) were
successfully installed, as well.
After installing xorg-x11, I ran X -configure to generate a
system-specific config file. I am now stuck with the server failing to
start and generating no error messages that I can act upon.
Executing 'X -config /user/xorg.conf.new', I see this midway through the
Xorg.0.log file:
Xorg.0.log snippet start ==
(II) I810(0): Display Info: CRT: attached: FALSE, present: FALSE, \
size: (0,0)
...
(II) I810(0): Currently active displays on Pipe A:
(II) I810(0): CRT
(==) I810(0): Display is using Pipe A
...
(II) I810(0): Will use BIOS call 0x5f05 to set refresh rates for CRTs.
log end ==
And then this at the end of the log (when everything halts):
Xorg.0.log snippet start ==
...
(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices
(WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring \
the saved state
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed.
(II) I810(0): BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting refresh with \
VBE 3 method.
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
...
{unbind key 0,1,3,2,4,5,6 follow}
...
(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (2)
log end ==
boom. It gets no further.
So a BIOS failure to call 0x5f05 would seem to indicate a problem
getting the (non-existent) monitor to initialize.
Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard?
Shall I post the full Xorg.0.log and my xorg.conf.new file?
I appreciate any guidance.
James
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Re: Old System, New Install Isuue
James Butler wrote: Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard? Yes - Xvfb or Xvnc are the easiest ways. Xorg using the dummy video driver and void input driver is also a possibility. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Old System, New Install Isuue
Alan Coopersmith wrote: James Butler wrote: Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard? Yes - Xvfb or Xvnc are the easiest ways. Xorg using the dummy video driver and void input driver is also a possibility. Thank you! Xfb sounds like it would work for me. Basically I need something that will run continuously in the background (daemon-like), rather than during a VNC session. I'll get started on compiling from source to test it out. Where would I find the dummy or void driver options to try before I reinstall everything? James ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
Re: Old System, New Install Isuue
James Butler wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: James Butler wrote: Is it possible to run X without an attached monitor, mouse or keyboard? Yes - Xvfb or Xvnc are the easiest ways. Xorg using the dummy video driver and void input driver is also a possibility. Thank you! Xfb sounds like it would work for me. Basically I need something that will run continuously in the background (daemon-like), rather than during a VNC session. I'll get started on compiling from source to test it out. Where would I find the dummy or void driver options to try before I reinstall everything? The Xorg source packages are xf86-video-dummy and xf86-input-void - from a quick google, it looks like the Fedora RPM names for these are xorg-x11-drv-dummy and xorg-x11-drv-void. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ xorg mailing list xorg@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg
