Re: Platform Specific
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 16:34 -0700, David G wrote: I have walked through building individual components one by one in attempt to learn what depends on what and have a much better grasp on some of the dependencies than I did a couple days ago however I am still lacking knowledge. What would be very helpful would be docs which explain each component so I can (hopefully) choose which is needed and which isn't. Last week I wanted to have a minimally configured xserver for build related work. I did a brain dead job of compiling an xserver with the minimum packages possible. No idea if it actually works. This is the list of packages, in build order, that will compile, including their configuration options: util/macros font/util ./pixman proto/xproto proto/kbproto proto/xextproto proto/inputproto lib/libXau xcb/proto xcb/pthread-stubs xcb/libxcb lib/libxtrans lib/libX11 proto/bigreqsproto proto/damageproto proto/fixesproto proto/fontsproto proto/inputproto proto/kbproto proto/randrproto proto/renderproto proto/videoproto proto/xcmiscproto proto/xextproto proto/xproto lib/libxkbfile lib/libfontenc lib/libXfont--disable-freetype lib/libpciaccess ./xserver --disable-glx --disable-dri --disable-composite --disable-record --disable-screensaver --disable-xres --disable-xinerama This was done on Ubuntu Jaunty on AMD64. There may be non xorg dependencies that are part of the distro that I am not aware of. You may also want to disable document generation using --disable-specs --disable-docs or --disable-devel-docs. You can export PKG_CONFIG_LIBDIR=/dev/null to ensure you do not link to dependencies you are not aware of. This is the list of pkg-config files that I ended-up with at the end of the build: bigreqsproto.pc damageproto.pc fixesproto.pc fontenc.pc fontsproto.pc fontutil.pc inputproto.pc kbproto.pc pciaccess.pc pixman-1.pc pthread-stubs.pc randrproto.pc renderproto.pc videoproto.pc x11.pc x11-xcb.pc xau.pc xcb-composite.pc xcb-damage.pc xcb-dpms.pc xcb-dri2.pc xcb-glx.pc xcb.pc xcb-proto.pc xcb-randr.pc xcb-record.pc xcb-render.pc xcb-res.pc xcb-screensaver.pc xcb-shape.pc xcb-shm.pc xcb-sync.pc xcb-xevie.pc xcb-xf86dri.pc xcb-xfixes.pc xcb-xinerama.pc xcb-xprint.pc xcb-xtest.pc xcb-xvmc.pc xcb-xv.pc xcmiscproto.pc xextproto.pc xfont.pc xkbfile.pc xorg-server.pc xproto.pc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Platform Specific
While I have not yet located answers to all my questions I did just happen across some helpful bits in the git tree of which have recent changes. For anyone else looking for dependency and module lists and some relational information you may useful the scripts and lists at: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/util/modular/tree/ Specifically the xorg.modules and xorg-7.0 modules as well as the various build scripts have provided me some additional information regarding dependency and build ordering and such. -D On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 4:34 PM, David G daveg68+list-x...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am attempting to build kdrive (or xorg) for several specific platforms (via cross compiling) and my goal is to end up with just enough of a feature set to fire up rdesktop/vnc or other apps without a window manager and as the only running app. Obviously with keyboard/mouse functionality. After reading much of the wiki and other sources regarding kdrive and modular xorg I still am at a loss as to what the minimum requirements/dependencies are for a kdrive server and including platform specific video driver. Can anyone shed some light on bare minimum dependencies for kdrive + video driver and/or point me in the direction of where to continue reading? I have walked through building individual components one by one in attempt to learn what depends on what and have a much better grasp on some of the dependencies than I did a couple days ago however I am still lacking knowledge. What would be very helpful would be docs which explain each component so I can (hopefully) choose which is needed and which isn't. For example I see the xorg-server configure option --disable-screensaver which is what I prefer...don't need one, does this mean that scrnsaverproto is not needed then? If this device will never be rendering video or 3d what more can I disable and/or not have to install? Is libXau, pixman, libXfont, etc even needed? I don't mind readinging/researching deeper if someone can point me to more information about the relationship and dependencies between the various components. Thanks in advance for any assistance. -D ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Platform Specific
Hi, I am attempting to build kdrive (or xorg) for several specific platforms (via cross compiling) and my goal is to end up with just enough of a feature set to fire up rdesktop/vnc or other apps without a window manager and as the only running app. Obviously with keyboard/mouse functionality. After reading much of the wiki and other sources regarding kdrive and modular xorg I still am at a loss as to what the minimum requirements/dependencies are for a kdrive server and including platform specific video driver. Can anyone shed some light on bare minimum dependencies for kdrive + video driver and/or point me in the direction of where to continue reading? I have walked through building individual components one by one in attempt to learn what depends on what and have a much better grasp on some of the dependencies than I did a couple days ago however I am still lacking knowledge. What would be very helpful would be docs which explain each component so I can (hopefully) choose which is needed and which isn't. For example I see the xorg-server configure option --disable-screensaver which is what I prefer...don't need one, does this mean that scrnsaverproto is not needed then? If this device will never be rendering video or 3d what more can I disable and/or not have to install? Is libXau, pixman, libXfont, etc even needed? I don't mind readinging/researching deeper if someone can point me to more information about the relationship and dependencies between the various components. Thanks in advance for any assistance. -D ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Platform Specific
David G wrote: Is libXau, pixman, libXfont, etc even needed? Yes, yes, and yes, unless you start hacking the code to remove all the calls to them, but what you end up with after that won't be an X11 server. -- -Alan Coopersmith-alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Platform Specific
Gosh, I would really like to see current architectural diagrams for both the client and server sides of X11 Window System. I'd be happy to help construct it and put it on the Wiki (if it is not already there). Is Doxygen a good place to start? On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: David G wrote: Is libXau, pixman, libXfont, etc even needed? Yes, yes, and yes, unless you start hacking the code to remove all the calls to them, but what you end up with after that won't be an X11 server. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: pekan...@gmail.com ___ xorg@lists.freedesktop.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: arch...@mail-archive.com
