Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-27 Thread Justin P. Mattock

On 11/27/2010 11:49 AM, Dan Nicholson wrote:

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Justin Mattock  wrote:

hello,
Not sure how to really handle this here(maybe I missed something), but
under xorg.conf
I see:
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[   280.713] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[   280.713] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd',
'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[   280.713] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[   280.713] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[   280.713] (II) Loader magic: 0x7c9900
[   280.713] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   280.713]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4

startx works but I've no mouse or keyboard..
(HAL is not installed)


It's using udev for hotplugging now unless you explicitly told it not
to during the build.


if I

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

startx gets me a blank screen.

is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
(machine is a macbook pro)


Either remove Mouse0/Keyboard0 from your xorg.conf, add the above
ServerFlags to disable hotplugging, or rebuild with
--disable-config-udev to remove hotplugging entirely.

--
Dan




your a lifesaver my friend!! that worked(in the past I never touched the 
udev switch..now I need too(recompiled))


all is good.. and Thanks you guys for fixing the mouse module as well 
compiled and loads good also.


Justin P. Mattock
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Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-27 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Justin Mattock  wrote:
> hello,
> Not sure how to really handle this here(maybe I missed something), but
> under xorg.conf
> I see:
>        /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
>        /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
> [   280.713] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
> [   280.713] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd',
> 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
> [   280.713] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
> [   280.713] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
> [   280.713] (II) Loader magic: 0x7c9900
> [   280.713] (II) Module ABI versions:
> [   280.713]    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
>
> startx works but I've no mouse or keyboard..
> (HAL is not installed)

It's using udev for hotplugging now unless you explicitly told it not
to during the build.

> if I
>
> Section "ServerFlags"
>        Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
> EndSection
>
> startx gets me a blank screen.
>
> is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
> and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
> or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
> (machine is a macbook pro)

Either remove Mouse0/Keyboard0 from your xorg.conf, add the above
ServerFlags to disable hotplugging, or rebuild with
--disable-config-udev to remove hotplugging entirely.

--
Dan
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Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-27 Thread Justin P. Mattock

On 11/27/2010 02:32 AM, Matthieu Herrb wrote:

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote:

Le 27/11/2010 05:24, Justin Mattock a écrit :

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection


Remove that. You've just disabled input hotplugging.


is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
(machine is a macbook pro)


Install xf86-input-evdev. That's the 'new' input driver everyone should
be using, it handles pretty much everything: keyboards, mice, trackpads,
etc.


You mean "everyone running Linux"...


thats the problem I think over here evdev is installed, but not loading




Once that works, you may want to install a specific driver like
-synaptic (most touchpads) or -wacom (tablets), if you have such hardware.

The -kbd and -mouse drivers are still maintained but not recommended, as
they completely bypass the kernel's input stack.


These are still the recommended drivers for non-linux systems.



mouse failed to build(reason for the IgnoreABI)for some reason or 
another. keyboard is installed


here is my xorg.0.log with evdev installed:


[   112.632]
This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation.
It is not supported in any way.
Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/.
Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release.
Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the
latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository.
See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions.
[   112.642]
X.Org X Server 1.9.99.1
Release Date: 2010-10-01
[   112.646] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   112.647] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.37-rc3-1-g159d976 x86_64
[   112.648] Current Operating System: Linux Linux-2 
2.6.37-rc3-1-g159d976 #9 SMP Fri Nov 26 19:21:42 PST 2010 x86_64
[   112.650] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz 
root=/dev/sda3 ro debug audit=1 selinux=1 enforcing=0 vga=790

[   112.651] Build Date: 23 November 2010  11:27:31AM
[   112.653]
[   112.654] Current version of pixman: 0.21.3
[   112.655]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   112.658] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default 
setting,

(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   112.663] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Nov 27 
06:23:44 2010

[   112.708] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[   112.710] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[   112.725] (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
[   112.725] (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
[   112.725] (**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
[   112.725] (**) |   |-->Device "Card0"
[   112.725] (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
[   112.725] (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
[   112.725] (**) |-->Input Device "Synaptics Touchpad"
[   112.725] (**) Option "IgnoreABI" "true"
[   112.725] (**) Ignoring ABI Version
[   112.725] (==) Automatically adding devices
[   112.725] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[   112.790] (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" does not exist.
[   112.790]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.791] (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" does not exist.
[   112.791]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.794] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/" does not exist.
[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/TTF/" does not exist.
[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/OTF/" does not exist.
[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/" does not 
exist.

[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not 
exist.

[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not 
exist.

[   112.795]Entry deleted from font path.
[   112.795] (**) FontPath set to:
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[   112.795] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[   112.795] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 
'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.

[   112.795] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[   112.795] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[   112.795] (II) Loader magic: 0x7c9900
[   112.795] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   112.795]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[   112.795]X.Org Video Driver: 9.0
[   112.795]X.Org XInput driver : 12.0
[   112.795]X.Org Server Extension : 4.0
[   112.800] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:71c5:106b:0080 rev 0, Mem @ 

Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-27 Thread Matthieu Herrb
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 10:36:21AM +0100, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 27/11/2010 05:24, Justin Mattock a écrit :
> > Section "ServerFlags"
> > Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
> > EndSection
> 
> Remove that. You've just disabled input hotplugging.
> 
> > is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
> > and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
> > or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
> > (machine is a macbook pro)
> 
> Install xf86-input-evdev. That's the 'new' input driver everyone should
> be using, it handles pretty much everything: keyboards, mice, trackpads,
> etc.

You mean "everyone running Linux"...

> Once that works, you may want to install a specific driver like
> -synaptic (most touchpads) or -wacom (tablets), if you have such hardware.
> 
> The -kbd and -mouse drivers are still maintained but not recommended, as
> they completely bypass the kernel's input stack.

These are still the recommended drivers for non-linux systems. 

-- 
Matthieu Herrb
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Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 27/11/2010 05:24, Justin Mattock a écrit :
> Section "ServerFlags"
>   Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
> EndSection

Remove that. You've just disabled input hotplugging.

> is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
> and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
> or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
> (machine is a macbook pro)

Install xf86-input-evdev. That's the 'new' input driver everyone should
be using, it handles pretty much everything: keyboards, mice, trackpads,
etc.

Once that works, you may want to install a specific driver like
-synaptic (most touchpads) or -wacom (tablets), if you have such hardware.

The -kbd and -mouse drivers are still maintained but not recommended, as
they completely bypass the kernel's input stack.

Cheers,

Rémi
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Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-26 Thread Justin P. Mattock




--- On *Sat, 11/27/10, Justin Mattock //* wrote:


From: Justin Mattock 
Subject: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a
bit tricky
To: x...@freedesktop.org
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:24 AM

hello,
Not sure how to really handle this here(maybe I missed something), but
under xorg.conf
I see:
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[ 280.713] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[ 280.713] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd',
'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[ 280.713] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[ 280.713] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[ 280.713] (II) Loader magic: 0x7c9900
[ 280.713] (II) Module ABI versions:
[ 280.713] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4

startx works but I've no mouse or keyboard..
(HAL is not installed)

if I

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

startx gets me a blank screen.

is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
(machine is a macbook pro)

--
Justin P. Mattock
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On 11/26/2010 09:07 PM, Super Biscuit wrote:
> What OS are you using?

Im using my own cblfs version..

Justin P. Mattock
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Re: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky

2010-11-26 Thread Super Biscuit
What OS are you using?

--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Justin Mattock  wrote:

From: Justin Mattock 
Subject: latest git xserver without hal causes Hotplugging to be a bit tricky
To: x...@freedesktop.org
Date: Saturday, November 27, 2010, 4:24 AM

hello,
Not sure how to really handle this here(maybe I missed something), but
under xorg.conf
I see:
    /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,
    /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
[   280.713] (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[   280.713] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd',
'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
[   280.713] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
[   280.713] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
[   280.713] (II) Loader magic: 0x7c9900
[   280.713] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   280.713]     X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4

startx works but I've no mouse or keyboard..
(HAL is not installed)

if I

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

startx gets me a blank screen.

is there a new option that I need to add to xorg.conf in order to startx
and have radeon work right as well as the mouse and keyboard?
or is this dependant on hal and/or device manager?
(machine is a macbook pro)

-- 
Justin P. Mattock
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