[solved] Re: Huge mouse-click delay
also sprach martin f krafft [2016-09-21 13:07 +0200]: > The more I am fiddling with this, the more I am suspecting the > Awesome window manager to be at fault. At least my switch to Git > master could well coincide with the start of these problems. > Moreover, if I kill awesome, then the mouse behaves just fine. If > I then restart awesome, the delay quickly grows in length. I really appreciated your guys' help, and now I feel bad for using up your time — the problem is indeed with the Awesome window manager: https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/issues/1107 Sorry for the noise… -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "i like .net for the same reason i like gentoo. it keeps all the people with no clue from writing c code, which is much harder for me to identify and eliminate from my systems. in the same way that gentoo gives those people a place to be that isn't in debian" -- andrew suffield spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
also sprach Peter Hutterer [2016-09-21 08:49 +0200]: > * run evemu-record on the mouse and check if you see the button events show > up while they're delayed in X. if they work as expected, then it's not a > kernel/hw issue. > * run xev and see if that gets the events as expected. If so, then the issue > is in the toolkit (but judging from the rest that's not the case anyway). In both cases, the event is registered by the tools immediately. > any server updates recently? can you downgrade? There was an update about 3 days ago, but of course I can't tell you exactky whether that's when the problems started. The update before that was a week old and I am fairly sure the problems aren't that old. X.org received only a Debian revision, it seems, but there were tons of other updates, cf. apt.log: http://slexy.org/raw/s21gsbXDX8 Sure, I can downgrade anything, but I it's probably pay off to know what I should be downgrading. Any clues? The more I am fiddling with this, the more I am suspecting the Awesome window manager to be at fault. At least my switch to Git master could well coincide with the start of these problems. Moreover, if I kill awesome, then the mouse behaves just fine. If I then restart awesome, the delay quickly grows in length. I'll start investigating this lead. Thank you everyone for your patience and input. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ above all, we should not wish to divest our existence of its rich ambiguity. --friedrich nietzsche spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 02:46:35PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Lucien Gentis [2016-09-20 14:39 > +0200]: > > Same problem with touch pad or USB extern mouse ? > > Good question; yes, the same problem exists with an external mouse. that's... strange and means it's not an issue with the evdev or synaptics driver. here's the two main things to try: * run evemu-record on the mouse and check if you see the button events show up while they're delayed in X. if they work as expected, then it's not a kernel/hw issue. * run xev and see if that gets the events as expected. If so, then the issue is in the toolkit (but judging from the rest that's not the case anyway). any server updates recently? can you downgrade? Cheers, Peter > It's a Logitech wireless, and I initially thought that the dongle > might be the problem, but the delay persists even if I remove the > dongle, and mouse clicks using the external mouse are similarly > delayed. > > It's an X240 with that dreadful touchpad-is-all-mousebuttons > "solution". I am just adding this because maybe the driver is > synaptics (version 1.8.3). > > -- > @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ > > now I lay me back to sleep. > the speaker's dull; the subject's deep. > if he should stop before I wake, > give me a nudge for goodness' sake. > > spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net > ___ > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > Your subscription address: %(user_address)s ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 02:08:49PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: All of them, including urxvt. swap xf86-input-libinput for xf86-input-evdev and or try behavior under a different environment (ie. start only an unmanaged xterm, launch clients from there and test their behavior) Does "export GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1" help anything on the matter No, nothing :( No surprise since urxvt isn't gdk ;-) Cheers, Thomas ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:34:18AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Hello, for a few days now, I'm experiencing (sometimes multi-second!) delays between mouse click and reaction on my laptop. It's running: xev reports the events ASAP, so the delay is at a later stage. In the clients event handling. => Which clients in particular? All? Only gtk? Only Qt? Is xterm affected? Does "export GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1" help anything on the matter (notice that exports affect only the shell, ie. you need to start the client from the same terminal, not the desktop shell) Cheers, Thomas ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
also sprach Lucien Gentis [2016-09-20 15:19 +0200]: > So even if restarting the machine does not solve the problem, you can also > try to unload/load kernel module (if your system permits it) : > > sudo rmmod psmouse > sudo modprobe psmouse Doing so does seem to make a difference — for a very short time. Then the delays come back. > Another thing you can try is to start your machine with a live > CD/DVD (Linux Ubuntu, Debian,...) in order to determine if the > problem is related with your system or your hardware. Okay, something I can try back at home, but I am on the road right now :/ -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "sobald man über niveau spricht ist man längst darüber hinweg." -- thomas krafft spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
So even if restarting the machine does not solve the problem, you can also try to unload/load kernel module (if your system permits it) : sudo rmmod psmouse sudo modprobe psmouse Another thing you can try is to start your machine with a live CD/DVD (Linux Ubuntu, Debian,...) in order to determine if the problem is related with your system or your hardware. Le 20/09/2016 à 14:46, martin f krafft a écrit : also sprach Lucien Gentis [2016-09-20 14:39 +0200]: Same problem with touch pad or USB extern mouse ? Good question; yes, the same problem exists with an external mouse. It's a Logitech wireless, and I initially thought that the dongle might be the problem, but the delay persists even if I remove the dongle, and mouse clicks using the external mouse are similarly delayed. It's an X240 with that dreadful touchpad-is-all-mousebuttons "solution". I am just adding this because maybe the driver is synaptics (version 1.8.3). -- Lucien GENTIS UNIVERSITE DE LORRAINE - ESPE Centre de Ressources Informatiques 5, Rue Paul Richard C.O. 3 - MAXEVILLE 54528 LAXOU-CEDEX Tél. 03 72 74 13 28 Email : lucien.gen...@univ-lorraine.fr ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
also sprach Lucien Gentis [2016-09-20 14:39 +0200]: > Same problem with touch pad or USB extern mouse ? Good question; yes, the same problem exists with an external mouse. It's a Logitech wireless, and I initially thought that the dongle might be the problem, but the delay persists even if I remove the dongle, and mouse clicks using the external mouse are similarly delayed. It's an X240 with that dreadful touchpad-is-all-mousebuttons "solution". I am just adding this because maybe the driver is synaptics (version 1.8.3). -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ now I lay me back to sleep. the speaker's dull; the subject's deep. if he should stop before I wake, give me a nudge for goodness' sake. spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
Hello, Same problem with touch pad or USB extern mouse ? Le 20/09/2016 à 10:34, martin f krafft a écrit : Hello, for a few days now, I'm experiencing (sometimes multi-second!) delays between mouse click and reaction on my laptop. It's running: X.org 7.7+16 (Debian sid) Intel graphics driver 2:2.99.917+git20160706 evdev 2.10.2 I've already rebooted, but the problem stayed. I am a bit at a loss getting to the root of this. xev reports the events ASAP, so the delay is at a later stage. Do you have any tips on what I could try to zone in on this problem? It's really quite annoying to have to wait 1–2 seconds between pressing down the mouse and seeing a result dragging it e.g. to select text. Thanks, ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s -- Lucien GENTIS UNIVERSITE DE LORRAINE - ESPE Centre de Ressources Informatiques 5, Rue Paul Richard C.O. 3 - MAXEVILLE 54528 LAXOU-CEDEX Tél. 03 72 74 13 28 Email : lucien.gen...@univ-lorraine.fr ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Re: Huge mouse-click delay
Hey Thomas, thanks for your response! > In the clients event handling. > => Which clients in particular? All? Only gtk? Only Qt? > Is xterm affected? All of them, including urxvt. > Does "export GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1" help anything on the matter No, nothing :( -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "love is a grave mental disease." -- platon spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s
Huge mouse-click delay
Hello, for a few days now, I'm experiencing (sometimes multi-second!) delays between mouse click and reaction on my laptop. It's running: X.org 7.7+16 (Debian sid) Intel graphics driver 2:2.99.917+git20160706 evdev 2.10.2 I've already rebooted, but the problem stayed. I am a bit at a loss getting to the root of this. xev reports the events ASAP, so the delay is at a later stage. Do you have any tips on what I could try to zone in on this problem? It's really quite annoying to have to wait 1–2 seconds between pressing down the mouse and seeing a result dragging it e.g. to select text. Thanks, -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ windoze nt crashed. i am the blue screen of death. no one hears your screams. spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net digital_signature_gpg.asc Description: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) ___ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: https://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s