[Xpert]Re: Continuing Radeon DRI problems
Message: 13 Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: Xpert digest, Vol 1 #2073 - 14 msgs From: Michel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 01 Aug 2002 16:12:00 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 09:34, Angus Wallace wrote: Message: 4 Subject: Re: [Xpert]Re: Radeon.o upgrade From: Michel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E4nzer?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29 Jul 2002 23:59:55 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 09:38, Angus Wallace wrote: I have XFree86 4.2.0 working on my Radeon VE with DRI (i.e. using glxinfo to check). However, running a 3d game (like quake2 through wine) provides the message that TCL will be disabled, and I should upgrade from radeon.o 1.1.1 to 1.3.x. Added to this my DRI enabled server (I have 2, one dual-head without DRI, and a single-head configuration with DRI) is very unstable and crashes often. Even my non DRI-enabled server is less stable than when I was only running single-head, no DRI... I'd upgrade the driver, except that I can't find it. does it exist yet, Yes, in DRI CVS. The binary snapshots available from dri.sf.net (where did you get your DRI driver if not from there?) build and install it. I've done the upgrade, but I still get whinging about the driver, If you still get the same message, you haven't upgraded the kernel module. Anyway... and if I run a program such as glxgears of tux racer, X crashes instantly, taking the keyboard and mouse with it (although XMMS might continue to play). I'm pretty sure I've configured XF86Config correctly, and suspect it might be a driver issue. Do other people run DRI on the radeon successfully? Yes, but the current code in DRI CVS hangs on some VEs, this is probably related to the new support for hardware TCL. XFree86 4.2.0 or CVS should work though. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast Hello again, I'm still having problems, and am thinking that some more detailed information would be in order. I'm running Redhat 7.3 with the 2.4.18-3 kernel that comes with it. I've recompiled that with AGPgart support, and modular support for DRI on the Radeon. I've then downloaded the DRI drivers, and installed them. I think, actually, that my dual-head/no DRI layout is working fine, but my single-head/DRI layout crashes whenever a program tries to use openGL (such as glxgears.) I've looked at the 'DRI user guide', and checked for things like the presence of the driver, using lsmod, and looking in the log file created by X, DRI is enabled. Similarly, glxinfo says that it is enalbed, also. Does this mean I have a 'dud' VE that hangs on the current DRI code? (with TCL added.) I no longer get the message about TCL being disabled (that I got before I compiled the kernel with modular Radeon support, and then upgraded the module) but it hangs just the same. Phew! This is seeming much more complicated than I'd anticipated. The assistance has been greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot Michel! Regards -Angus Wallace ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Option accel question
On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 19:23, Daniel Sheltraw wrote: Is the accel option implemeted using PCI DMA. I do not really understand what accel is all about. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me :-) ? Short answer: it depends on chip, driver and configuration. :) Slightly longer answer: most accel is done with MMIO access to chip registers. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Re: Continuing Radeon DRI problems
On 3 Aug 2002, Angus Wallace wrote: I'm still having problems, and am thinking that some more detailed information would be in order. I'm running Redhat 7.3 with the 2.4.18-3 kernel that comes with it. I've recompiled that with AGPgart support, and modular support for DRI on the Radeon. I've then downloaded the DRI drivers, and installed them. I think, actually, that my dual-head/no DRI layout is working fine, but my single-head/DRI layout crashes whenever a program tries to use openGL (such as glxgears.) There are three versions of source for the Radeon DRI kernel module, one comes with the kernel, one with XFree86 and one with the DRI project drivers. If I understand correctly, you need to use the source that comes with the DRI project drivers, but you have to recompile it every time you change the kernel or XFree86 version. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Re: Continuing Radeon DRI problems
On Sat, 2002-08-03 at 12:41, Angus Wallace wrote: On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 09:34, Angus Wallace wrote: On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 09:38, Angus Wallace wrote: I have XFree86 4.2.0 working on my Radeon VE with DRI (i.e. using glxinfo to check). However, running a 3d game (like quake2 through wine) provides the message that TCL will be disabled, and I should upgrade from radeon.o 1.1.1 to 1.3.x. Added to this my DRI enabled server (I have 2, one dual-head without DRI, and a single-head configuration with DRI) is very unstable and crashes often. Even my non DRI-enabled server is less stable than when I was only running single-head, no DRI... I'd upgrade the driver, except that I can't find it. does it exist yet, Yes, in DRI CVS. The binary snapshots available from dri.sf.net (where did you get your DRI driver if not from there?) build and install it. I've done the upgrade, but I still get whinging about the driver, If you still get the same message, you haven't upgraded the kernel module. Anyway... and if I run a program such as glxgears of tux racer, X crashes instantly, taking the keyboard and mouse with it (although XMMS might continue to play). I'm pretty sure I've configured XF86Config correctly, and suspect it might be a driver issue. Do other people run DRI on the radeon successfully? Yes, but the current code in DRI CVS hangs on some VEs, this is probably related to the new support for hardware TCL. XFree86 4.2.0 or CVS should work though. I'm still having problems, and am thinking that some more detailed information would be in order. I'm running Redhat 7.3 with the 2.4.18-3 kernel that comes with it. I've recompiled that with AGPgart support, and modular support for DRI on the Radeon. I've then downloaded the DRI drivers, and installed them. I think, actually, that my dual-head/no DRI layout is working fine, but my single-head/DRI layout crashes whenever a program tries to use openGL (such as glxgears.) I've looked at the 'DRI user guide', and checked for things like the presence of the driver, using lsmod, and looking in the log file created by X, DRI is enabled. Similarly, glxinfo says that it is enalbed, also. Does this mean I have a 'dud' VE that hangs on the current DRI code? (with TCL added.) Apparently. I no longer get the message about TCL being disabled (that I got before I compiled the kernel with modular Radeon support, and then upgraded the module) but it hangs just the same. That's one of the problems with the new code, it seems to emit TCL commands when it shouldn't. It will have to be debugged on one of those machines. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Option accel question
Michel Thanks for the reply and thanks for helping us get an answer to our MB problem that Marc ultimately solved. Is the accel option implemeted using PCI DMA. I do not really understand what accel is all about. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me :-) ? Short answer: it depends on chip, driver and configuration. :) Slightly longer answer: most accel is done with MMIO access to chip registers. How does using the MMIO accelerate graphics? Confused. I just really do not know what acceleration means. Daniel ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Re: Option accel question
On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Daniel Sheltraw wrote: Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 09:45:57 -0600 From: Daniel Sheltraw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain List-Id: General X Discussion xpert.XFree86.Org Subject: Re: Option accel question Michel Thanks for the reply and thanks for helping us get an answer to our MB problem that Marc ultimately solved. Is the accel option implemeted using PCI DMA. I do not really understand what accel is all about. Can someone please shed a little light on the subject for me :-) ? Short answer: it depends on chip, driver and configuration. :) Slightly longer answer: most accel is done with MMIO access to chip registers. How does using the MMIO accelerate graphics? Confused. I just really do not know what acceleration means. Video hardware acceleration is the implementation in the video hardware itself of common graphics primatives and operations. Without hardware acceleration, the CPU has to do all the work. The CPU calculates the pixels when drawing lines, polygons, etc. and writes them into video memory. The CPU does all the work. With a 2D acceleration engine, like all video hardware has nowadays, instead of the CPU doing all this work, the CPU merely tells the video card draw a rectangle with these co-ordinates, then the video hardware's 2D acceleration engine draws that rectangle internally on the video card itself. This moves the drawing logic off the host CPU and onto the video card. There are all sorts of operations which are accelerated in hardware including line drawing, rectangles, fills, blitting images, etc. MMIO is memory mapped IO, which maps the hardware's IO register space into the memory map. This is one way of communicating with the hardware. -- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Option accel question
On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Daniel Sheltraw wrote: Acceleration really means using the graphics hardware to perform graphics primitives like draw line, fill triangle/rectangle, ... NoAcceleration is basically: use the cpu to change every pixel individually. No doubt both those descriptions are technically wrong, and misleading at some level, but they should give you some idea. -- Dr. Andrew C. Aitchison Computer Officer, DPMMS, Cambridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dpmms.cam.ac.uk/~werdna ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]problem with Xft and pango
I'm trying to compile the latest CVS pango version. Is this possible? Apparently it requires freetype 2 and Xft. Xft wants to include freetype1 as far as I can tell by looking at the Xft headers, specifically: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h .. #include X11/Xft/Xft.h #include freetype/freetype.h .. /usr/gcc-3.1.1/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DPANGO_ENABLE_BACKEND -DPANGO_ENABLE_ENGINE -DSYSCONFDIR=\/drives/sg4/gnome2//etc\ -DLIBDIR=\/drives/sg4/gnome2//lib\ -DMODULE_VERSION=\1.0.0\ -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6//include -I/usr/X11R6//include/freetype2 -I.. -g -O2 -Wall -D_REENTRANT -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -c pangoxft-font.c -MT pangoxft-font.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/pangoxft-font.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/pangoxft-font.lo In file included from pangoxft-font.c:27: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:73: parse error before '*' token /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:74: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFreeTypeOpen' /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:74: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:77: parse error before XftFontStruct /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:79: parse error before '*' token /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:80: warning: type defaults to `int' in declaration of `XftFreeTypeGet' /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:80: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:88: parse error before XftFontStruct /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:94: parse error before XftFontStruct /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:101: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:108: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:115: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:122: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:129: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:136: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:143: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:150: parse error before XftFontStruct/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft/XftFreetype.h:157: parse error before XftFontStructpangoxft-font.c: In function `pango_xft_real_render': pangoxft-font.c:317: structure has no member named `u' pangoxft-font.c:330: structure has no member named `u' pangoxft-font.c: In function `load_fallback_font': pangoxft-font.c:717: structure has no member named `u' pangoxft-font.c: In function `pango_xft_font_get_font': pangoxft-font.c:766: structure has no member named `u' pangoxft-font.c: In function `pango_xft_font_get_face': pangoxft-font.c:842: structure has no member named `core' pangoxft-font.c:845: structure has no member named `u' make[3]: *** [pangoxft-font.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/drives/sg4/src/gnome2-test/tmp/gnome/pango/pango' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/drives/sg4/src/gnome2-test/tmp/gnome/pango/pango' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/drives/sg4/src/gnome2-test/tmp/gnome/pango' make: *** [all] Error 2 Fred ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]problem with Xft and pango
Around 14 o'clock on Aug 3, Fred Heitkamp wrote: I'm trying to compile the latest CVS pango version. Is this possible? Yes, but you need to make sure you've added the FreeType2 header directory to the include path so that you get FreeType2 headers instead of FreeType1. the xft.pc file installed with current XFree86 CVS Xft2 should point at the right headers. Keith PackardXFree86 Core TeamHP Cambridge Research Lab ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
