[xubuntu-users] Screen blank during version upgrade

2016-02-07 Thread Peter Flynn
I kicked off an upgrade on my laptop from 14.04 to 15.50 today and it
was all going well (half-way through the installation part) until my
screen went black (I had disabled the screensaver before I started).

The system is still running: I can log into it with ssh, and all the
expected upgrade processes are still there. In the moments after the
screen blacked out, the disk light was still flickering, so it was still
running. Now the light has gone out, almost certainly for one of those
prompts that version upgrade pop up, asking if I want to keep one of the
config files like ssh.conf or smb.conf -- and of course I can't click OK
because I can't see where the mouse is. Pressing Space also doesn't
work, presumably because the focus isn't on the dialog.

Is there a way to determine the process's exact status from a logged in
ssh job? I have appended the output of ps axu in case it helps. I can
just leave it running until I find out...

(I suspect the screen inverter, which has giving trouble, but I had that
replaced last week and it's been fine so far).

///Peter

> $ ps axu
> USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
> root 1 0.0 0.0 4592 2032 ? Ss 14:39 0:04 /sbin/init
> root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [kthreadd]
> root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:06 [ksoftirqd/0]
> root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kworker/0:0H]
> root 7 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:08 [rcu_sched]
> root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [rcu_bh]
> root 9 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [migration/0]
> root 10 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [watchdog/0]
> root 11 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [khelper]
> root 12 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
> root 13 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [netns]
> root 14 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [writeback]
> root 15 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kintegrityd]
> root 16 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [bioset]
> root 17 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kworker/u5:0]
> root 18 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kblockd]
> root 20 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [ata_sff]
> root 21 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [khubd]
> root 22 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [md]
> root 23 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [devfreq_wq]
> root 24 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [khungtaskd]
> root 25 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:08 [kswapd0]
> root 26 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 14:39 0:00 [ksmd]
> root 27 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN 14:39 0:00 [khugepaged]
> root 28 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [fsnotify_mark]
> root 29 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [ecryptfs-kthrea]
> root 30 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [crypto]
> root 42 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kthrotld]
> root 46 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
> root 47 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:39 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
> root 68 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [deferwq]
> root 69 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [charger_manager]
> root 111 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [kpsmoused]
> root 114 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:39 0:00 [ttm_swap]
> root 185 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [kdmflush]
> root 186 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [bioset]
> root 187 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [kcryptd_io]
> root 189 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [kcryptd]
> root 190 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [bioset]
> root 201 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [kdmflush]
> root 202 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [bioset]
> root 204 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [kdmflush]
> root 205 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [bioset]
> root 225 0.1 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:40 0:19 [jbd2/dm-1-8]
> root 226 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [ext4-rsv-conver]
> root 375 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:07 [kworker/u5:1]
> root 425 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [ext4-rsv-conver]
> root 443 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [cfg80211]
> root 459 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:40 0:00 [pccardd]
> root 566 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 18:32 0:00 [kworker/u4:1]
> root 583 0.0 0.0 4736 856 tty4 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty4
> root 588 0.0 0.0 4736 856 tty5 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty5
> root 591 0.0 0.0 4736 852 tty2 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty2
> root 593 0.0 0.0 4736 848 tty3 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty3
> root 595 0.0 0.0 4736 856 tty6 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty6
> root 597 0.0 0.0 4736 848 tty1 Ss+ 18:32 0:00 /sbin/getty -8 38400 tty1
> root 614 0.0 0.1 10416 2684 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
> root 619 0.0 0.0 4752 428 ? S 18:32 0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
> root 624 0.0 0.0 4960 1576 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 /sbin/cgmanager --sigstop -m 
> name=systemd
> root 631 0.0 0.2 13784 5956 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
> root 636 0.0 0.0 4680 664 ? S 18:32 0:00 upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
> message+ 638 0.0 0.0 6184 1756 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 dbus-daemon --system --fork
> root 641 0.0 0.0 7388 2012 ? Ss 18:32 0:00 /usr/sbin/bluetoothd
> syslog 645 0.0 0.0 30612 1000 ? Ssl 18:32 0:00 rsyslogd
> root 872 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 14:40 0:00 [krfcommd]
> root 1324 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S 14:41 0:00 [kauditd]
> peter 1778 6.1 10.9 286720 226936 ? SLl 14:41 16:46 
> /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login
> peter 1872 0.0 0.1 5540 2384 ? Ss 14:41 0:04 dbus-daemon --fork --session 
> --address=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-HsDFWwRL5T
> peter 1921 0.0 0.0 

Re: [xubuntu-users] move a file from its location via gui

2016-01-17 Thread Peter Flynn
On 17/01/16 10:07, Chris Green wrote:
[...]
> It's still *awful*.  Compare it with a standard .conf file such as
> ntp.conf:-

I'd take XML *any* day over that kind of stuff.

> Apart from anything else editing an XML file is a pain because of all
> the  characters *and* you have to enter keywords twice at the
> beginning and end of a block.  

You may have been misled (as many programmers are) into using a dumb
editor instead of one that understands XML syntax. No user should ever
have to type the markup characters, or even see them.

> No half decent programming language
> makes things so difficult for the programmer.

But XML isn't a programming language; it's a markup language. This is a
common misunderstanding in the programming community. I've even had
people ask me how they can get XML to do their math -- a bit like asking
someone how to write your thesis in C++ :-)

> XML, if it's needed, should always be hidden from the user/programmer
> by some sort of parser.

Absolutely, always. The user should never see pointy brackets: they're
for parsers and for people like me who have to deal with the dirty bits
inside XML documents. Any half-decent interface should hide them and
present a sensible layout. Unfortunately, no such editors exist yet;
even the (quite good) XML editors for authoring still demand far too
much foreknowledge. Maybe one day...

We should stop here...we're going off-topic...

///Peter


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Re: [xubuntu-users] move a file from its location via gui

2016-01-12 Thread Peter Flynn
On 12/01/16 18:56, John R. Sowden wrote:
> I've been meaning to address this for years.  Very often, I need to move
> a file, a document on the desktop, for example, or a downloaded program
> to a 'test' directory, etc.  Unfortunately, when I right click on the
> icon, I gets lots of options that I don't use, but moving the file to a
> different location is not an option.  Is there a fix for this?

Persuade the developers to add Move? I agree, it's odd that it's not
provided, but I never put files on my desktop, so I don't really notice
it. I find that mv in a command window is just as fast anyway.

///Peter



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