Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
"Yet, you want yet another alternative? What for?" simple: options. Advocating people to migrate will easier when they feel comfort with little learning curve to a new environments. I do believe we all are happy to introduced family/coworkers to FOSS community :) "What is the point of bringing closed source software to an open OS unnecessarily?" I am no programmer, sir. Is wrapper a closed source software to begin with? I supposed it workflow just like another web browser, just a little easier to use by user. Also, there is a linux distro packaged this app in their distribution. I can assumed this approach as good marketing to get more people, at least know linux first, and then gradually shifting to another alternatives. We can also see more distros copying OSX appearance in their default setting for the same reason, right? On 04/01/20 20.29, Klaus Maas wrote: Yet, you want yet another alternative? What for? -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
Am 04.01.20 um 14:19 schrieb Klaus Maas: Aren't there any other problems to tackle on Xubuntu first than bringing Microsoft spy software to it? Especially since there are excellent alternatives available on Linux. A switch between OpenDoc and MSDoc formats all the time, because I have to for third parties, but I encounter problems very rarely. LibreOffice's learning curve is very shallow, especially if people have pre-ribbon experience which still seems to be the case for many public adminstrations which excel in skipping upgrades. Klaus Ack. Xubuntu is just a derivative of Ubuntu, and Andreas mentioned a DE which is only available on Manjaro at the moment. So, if Andreas thinks a Microsoft Office wrapper should be a priority on Ubuntu, he could start to port it to Ubuntu. Regards -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
I am advocating just the opposite: Time to learn to work with open software on an open OS. What is the point of bringing closed source software to an open OS unnecessarily? You describe yourself good alternatieves to deal with that situation. Yet, you want yet another alternative? What for? Why do people move to Linux in the first place? Because they cannot afford Windows, but MS Office they can? I can hear the masses screaming: "Give us Linux! But only if it runs MS Office." Klaus On 04/01/2020 04.31, andreas wrote: Thank you for the reply Victor. I get your point of freedom of computing choices. And I know some of European friends whom afford such lavishness in their countries. In my country, by being using linux itself is a deviation/astray from society, let alone using LO for interoperability. Only my stubbornes keep me sane for this past 12 years. For uninteractive documents I need to made, of course LO is totally suffice, sometimes saving to ps before exporting to pdf if needed so. But sometimes we have to deal with uncompromised document format (mostly from workplace/govt) e.g. locked, macro'ed excel file and such. I usually use WPS Office or MSO online to get around this problem. So, yeah, in my case, a native wrapper is a nice addition for the system even though its not mandatory needed. And by doing so, I do believe it will raise xubuntu popularity and ease new people to migrate from windows ecosystem. Regards, Andreas On 04/01/20 03.28, Victor Forberger wrote: On 1/2/20 9:57 PM, andreas wrote: ah,my bad. Here is the link, https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html. basically it saves users some clicks and containing MS Office Online inside desktop native app so we don't need to open web browser to access it. On 02/01/20 18.58, Bjoern Franke wrote: Hi, Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: Hello there. I just read the article here about MS Office Online native wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch to linux. you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. I am not in favor of such an addition for Xubuntu. Linux, for good or ill, has been about variety and choice. What I like about switching to Linux is that it forces changes in how I did things previously. And, I think LibreOffice is an excellent and worthy replacement for MS Word. I disagree with those who want to replicate the start menu from Windows or the Dock from MacOS as the entire focus of a distribution (such as elementary OS seeks to replicate the Mac experience). For instance, Xubuntu gives me the options to create a single panel that mirrors a MacOS dock (a single column of apps and notifications that I use most often) but which also includes the ability to have every window with its own icon and also a good start menu for housing all installed apps (the whisker menu) as well as various launchers for grouping apps by tasks. In this way, I get what I like from the dock and the start menu in a way that best meets my own needs for as much window real estate as possible. See my setup page for various pics of this layout: https://linuxatty.wordpress.com/thesetup/ take care, Victor -- Victor Forberger vforber...@fastmail.fm blog: http://linuxatty.wordpress.com -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
Aren't there any other problems to tackle on Xubuntu first than bringing Microsoft spy software to it? Especially since there are excellent alternatives available on Linux. A switch between OpenDoc and MSDoc formats all the time, because I have to for third parties, but I encounter problems very rarely. LibreOffice's learning curve is very shallow, especially if people have pre-ribbon experience which still seems to be the case for many public adminstrations which excel in skipping upgrades. Klaus On 03/01/2020 21.28, Victor Forberger wrote: On 1/2/20 9:57 PM, andreas wrote: ah,my bad. Here is the link, https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html. basically it saves users some clicks and containing MS Office Online inside desktop native app so we don't need to open web browser to access it. On 02/01/20 18.58, Bjoern Franke wrote: Hi, Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: Hello there. I just read the article here about MS Office Online native wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch to linux. you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. I am not in favor of such an addition for Xubuntu. Linux, for good or ill, has been about variety and choice. What I like about switching to Linux is that it forces changes in how I did things previously. And, I think LibreOffice is an excellent and worthy replacement for MS Word. I disagree with those who want to replicate the start menu from Windows or the Dock from MacOS as the entire focus of a distribution (such as elementary OS seeks to replicate the Mac experience). For instance, Xubuntu gives me the options to create a single panel that mirrors a MacOS dock (a single column of apps and notifications that I use most often) but which also includes the ability to have every window with its own icon and also a good start menu for housing all installed apps (the whisker menu) as well as various launchers for grouping apps by tasks. In this way, I get what I like from the dock and the start menu in a way that best meets my own needs for as much window real estate as possible. See my setup page for various pics of this layout: https://linuxatty.wordpress.com/thesetup/ take care, Victor -- Victor Forberger vforber...@fastmail.fm blog: http://linuxatty.wordpress.com -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
Thank you for the reply Victor. I get your point of freedom of computing choices. And I know some of European friends whom afford such lavishness in their countries. In my country, by being using linux itself is a deviation/astray from society, let alone using LO for interoperability. Only my stubbornes keep me sane for this past 12 years. For uninteractive documents I need to made, of course LO is totally suffice, sometimes saving to ps before exporting to pdf if needed so. But sometimes we have to deal with uncompromised document format (mostly from workplace/govt) e.g. locked, macro'ed excel file and such. I usually use WPS Office or MSO online to get around this problem. So, yeah, in my case, a native wrapper is a nice addition for the system even though its not mandatory needed. And by doing so, I do believe it will raise xubuntu popularity and ease new people to migrate from windows ecosystem. Regards, Andreas On 04/01/20 03.28, Victor Forberger wrote: On 1/2/20 9:57 PM, andreas wrote: ah,my bad. Here is the link, https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html. basically it saves users some clicks and containing MS Office Online inside desktop native app so we don't need to open web browser to access it. On 02/01/20 18.58, Bjoern Franke wrote: Hi, Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: Hello there. I just read the article here about MS Office Online native wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch to linux. you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. I am not in favor of such an addition for Xubuntu. Linux, for good or ill, has been about variety and choice. What I like about switching to Linux is that it forces changes in how I did things previously. And, I think LibreOffice is an excellent and worthy replacement for MS Word. I disagree with those who want to replicate the start menu from Windows or the Dock from MacOS as the entire focus of a distribution (such as elementary OS seeks to replicate the Mac experience). For instance, Xubuntu gives me the options to create a single panel that mirrors a MacOS dock (a single column of apps and notifications that I use most often) but which also includes the ability to have every window with its own icon and also a good start menu for housing all installed apps (the whisker menu) as well as various launchers for grouping apps by tasks. In this way, I get what I like from the dock and the start menu in a way that best meets my own needs for as much window real estate as possible. See my setup page for various pics of this layout: https://linuxatty.wordpress.com/thesetup/ take care, Victor -- Victor Forberger vforber...@fastmail.fm blog: http://linuxatty.wordpress.com -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
RE: MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu One of the recent articles was lacking link or citation. I believe the article was looking to see if Xubuntu has a native wrapper for the Microsoft Office Online tool. Turns out Manjaro offered this a few years ago, and the discussion was shared in an article at https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html That's www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html, in case it doesn't translate correctly through the Email and digest processing. Hopefully this assists in the discussion. | | | | Manjaro + Microsoft Office Online - Yup, come over Short, enthusiastic review of the native integration of Microsoft Office Online in Manjaro 17.1.6 Hakoila using ... | | | -- Brian Masinick masinick at yahoo dot com -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
On 1/2/20 9:57 PM, andreas wrote: > ah,my bad. Here is the link, > https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html. > basically it saves users some clicks and containing MS Office Online > inside desktop native app so we don't need to open web browser to access > it. > > On 02/01/20 18.58, Bjoern Franke wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: >>> Hello there. I just read the article here >>> about MS Office Online native >>> wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for >>> Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future >>> addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch >>> to linux. >> you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. >> I am not in favor of such an addition for Xubuntu. Linux, for good or ill, has been about variety and choice. What I like about switching to Linux is that it forces changes in how I did things previously. And, I think LibreOffice is an excellent and worthy replacement for MS Word. I disagree with those who want to replicate the start menu from Windows or the Dock from MacOS as the entire focus of a distribution (such as elementary OS seeks to replicate the Mac experience). For instance, Xubuntu gives me the options to create a single panel that mirrors a MacOS dock (a single column of apps and notifications that I use most often) but which also includes the ability to have every window with its own icon and also a good start menu for housing all installed apps (the whisker menu) as well as various launchers for grouping apps by tasks. In this way, I get what I like from the dock and the start menu in a way that best meets my own needs for as much window real estate as possible. See my setup page for various pics of this layout: https://linuxatty.wordpress.com/thesetup/ take care, Victor -- Victor Forberger vforber...@fastmail.fm blog: http://linuxatty.wordpress.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
ah,my bad. Here is the link, https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/manjaro-ms-office-online.html. basically it saves users some clicks and containing MS Office Online inside desktop native app so we don't need to open web browser to access it. On 02/01/20 18.58, Bjoern Franke wrote: Hi, Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: Hello there. I just read the article here about MS Office Online native wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch to linux. you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
Re: [xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
Hi, Am 02.01.20 um 04:10 schrieb andreas: > Hello there. I just read the article here > about MS Office Online native > wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for > Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future > addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch > to linux. you linked to "about:blank", so nobody can see what the wrapper can do. -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
[xubuntu-users] MS Office Online Native Wrapper For Xubuntu
Hello there. I just read the article here about MS Office Online native wrapper on some of linux distributions. Is there any possibility for Xubuntu developers to add this to priority list as Xubuntu future addition feature? I think this can be a plus factor for people to switch to linux. -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users
