Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-10 Thread Phil Staub


On 6/10/20 7:04 AM, Chris Green wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:01:01PM -0400, Phil Staub wrote:
>> To put some closure on this discussion:
>>
>> The problems turns out to be a noob issue that I have learned many 
times,

>> but apparently not well enough to remember it. If you're missing some
>> expected mail, look in your mailer's spam folder.
>>
> This happens so often that I wonder why people have a 'spam'
> destination.  I have an "it's definitely for me" folder, folders to
> which mailing list mail gets routed (by mailing list name) and a
> "default" folder where everything else gets sent.  My mail client goes
> to them in order so I just get to see the "default" stuff (where junk
> will end up) later and/or when I have time.  Given that all I have to
> do to throw away the junk is hit 'd' I can deal with quite a lot of
> junk in a few seconds.
>

Yeah, I should do that.

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-10 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:01:01PM -0400, Phil Staub wrote:
> To put some closure on this discussion:
> 
> The problems turns out to be a noob issue that I have learned many times,
> but apparently not well enough to remember it. If you're missing some
> expected mail, look in your mailer's spam folder.
> 
This happens so often that I wonder why people have a 'spam'
destination.  I have an "it's definitely for me" folder, folders to
which mailing list mail gets routed (by mailing list name) and a
"default" folder where everything else gets sent.  My mail client goes
to them in order so I just get to see the "default" stuff (where junk
will end up) later and/or when I have time.  Given that all I have to
do to throw away the junk is hit 'd' I can deal with quite a lot of
junk in a few seconds.

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-09 Thread Phil Staub

To put some closure on this discussion:

The problems turns out to be a noob issue that I have learned many 
times, but apparently not well enough to remember it. If you're missing 
some expected mail, look in your mailer's spam folder.


Thanks.

Phil



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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-08 Thread Peter Flynn


On 08/06/2020 15:31, Phil Staub wrote:

Hi Ralf:

[...]

If I send to the list with my 'staub dot us' address, the mailing
list rejects the submission as an attempt to post to a members-only
list from a non-member. 


That email came to me from the list with your address as From.
So something is honoring your staub.us address OK.

One thing you might check is reverse DNS lookup. If the sending address 
is not in the same domain as the sending mail server, some mailing lists 
will assume it's spam and just drop it on the floor.


Peter


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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-08 Thread Phil Staub

Hi Ralf:

Once again, no individual e-mail to get this response.

   On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:17:39 -0400, Phil Staub wrote:
   >/Looking for suggestions as to why I don't seem to get posts to this />/list. />//>/Yes, I'm subscribed to the list. 
/>//>/I have digests turned off so that I should get individual e-mails />/whenever there is a post to the list. />//>/I 
have (temporarily) enabled confirmation mail whenever I post to the />/list. I get these confirmation mails. />//>/I have 
enabled receipt of my own postings. I get these. />//>/But I have been having a discussion with another subscriber who has 
/>/been responding to my postings, and the only way I know he has />/responded is to log into the mailing list and look at the 
monthly />/archive. />//>/What am I doing wrong? /
   I don't receive my own mails send to the list, but I receive all mails
   from other subscribers.

   For the Ubuntu users mailing list I needed to migrate from my Zoho
   address to one of my Yahoo addresses, since Zoho stopped allowing me to
   use the Ubuntu users mailing list a few days back, because only an usual
   amount of traffic is allowed. Actually the amount of traffic caused by
   the Ubuntu users mailing list is not unusual compared with other
   traffic.

   Sometimes mailing lists are doing something wrong, sometimes the
   providers start to misbehave. From time to time I need to switch from
   one to another email address, for almost all mailing lists. It's a PITA
   regarding filtering and to ensure that replys are using the correct
   email account.

I subscribed to this list using the address I use for most of my  
correspondence, which is hosted on gmail, and bounces to my main gmail 
account, where I read all my mail. I tried changing the address to my 
google address, but that failed, because I authenticate outgoing mail as 
'phil at staub dot us'. If I attempt to use my gmail address, the 
outgoing authentication fails. If I send to the list with my 'staub dot 
us' address, the mailing list rejects the submission as an attempt to 
post to a members-only list from a non-member. So for the time being, 
I'll either switch to digest mode or check the archive periodically. Sigh...



To reference your other response, yes, I have every mail delivery option 
enabled that I saw (except for digest). Haven't checked the bounce score 
yet. I'll look into that.



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Phil


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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-08 Thread Phil Staub
Hi Ralf:

Once again, no individual e-mail to get this response.

On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:17:39 -0400, Phil Staub wrote:
>*Looking for suggestions as to why I don't seem to get posts to this
*>*list.
*>>*Yes, I'm subscribed to the list.
*>>*I have digests turned off so that I should get individual e-mails
*>*whenever there is a post to the list.
*>>*I have (temporarily) enabled confirmation mail whenever I post to the
*>*list. I get these confirmation mails.
*>>*I have enabled receipt of my own postings. I get these.
*>>*But I have been having a discussion with another subscriber who has
*>*been responding to my postings, and the only way I know he has
*>*responded is to log into the mailing list and look at the monthly
*>*archive.
*>>*What am I doing wrong?
*
I don't receive my own mails send to the list, but I receive all mails
from other subscribers.

For the Ubuntu users mailing list I needed to migrate from my Zoho
address to one of my Yahoo addresses, since Zoho stopped allowing me to
use the Ubuntu users mailing list a few days back, because only an usual
amount of traffic is allowed. Actually the amount of traffic caused by
the Ubuntu users mailing list is not unusual compared with other
traffic.

Sometimes mailing lists are doing something wrong, sometimes the
providers start to misbehave. From time to time I need to switch from
one to another email address, for almost all mailing lists. It's a PITA
regarding filtering and to ensure that replys are using the correct
email account.


I subscribed to this list using the address I use for most of my
correspondence, which is hosted on gmail, and bounces to my main gmail
account, where I read all my mail. I'll try changing the address to the
main address and see if that helps.


To reference your other response, yes, I have every mail delivery option
enabled that I saw (except for digest). Haven't checked the bounce score
yet. I'll look into that.


Thanks,

Phil
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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS:

If you log in your xubuntu mailing list account, do you see on top
of the page a bounce score? It's ok if you don't see a bounce score,
but if there should be one, it's an issue.

Is "Mail delivery" enabled? Even if digest is disabled, mail delivery
needs to be explicitly enabled.


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Re: [xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:17:39 -0400, Phil Staub wrote:
>Looking for suggestions as to why I don't seem to get posts to this
>list.
>
>Yes, I'm subscribed to the list.
>
>I have digests turned off so that I should get individual e-mails 
>whenever there is a post to the list.
>
>I have (temporarily) enabled confirmation mail whenever I post to the 
>list. I get these confirmation mails.
>
>I have enabled receipt of my own postings. I get these.
>
>But I have been having a discussion with another subscriber who has
>been responding to my postings, and the only way I know he has
>responded is to log into the mailing list and look at the monthly
>archive.
>
>What am I doing wrong?

I don't receive my own mails send to the list, but I receive all mails
from other subscribers.

For the Ubuntu users mailing list I needed to migrate from my Zoho
address to one of my Yahoo addresses, since Zoho stopped allowing me to
use the Ubuntu users mailing list a few days back, because only an usual
amount of traffic is allowed. Actually the amount of traffic caused by
the Ubuntu users mailing list is not unusual compared with other
traffic.

Sometimes mailing lists are doing something wrong, sometimes the
providers start to misbehave. From time to time I need to switch from
one to another email address, for almost all mailing lists. It's a PITA
regarding filtering and to ensure that replys are using the correct
email account.

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[xubuntu-users] Trouble receiving e-mail from this group

2020-06-07 Thread Phil Staub

Looking for suggestions as to why I don't seem to get posts to this list.

Yes, I'm subscribed to the list.

I have digests turned off so that I should get individual e-mails 
whenever there is a post to the list.


I have (temporarily) enabled confirmation mail whenever I post to the 
list. I get these confirmation mails.


I have enabled receipt of my own postings. I get these.

But I have been having a discussion with another subscriber who has been 
responding to my postings, and the only way I know he has responded is 
to log into the mailing list and look at the monthly archive.


What am I doing wrong?



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