Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Cody Smith]

I don't think it's even possible. 32-bit CPUs aren't forwards compatible
like that. I won't get into the technical details why, but I'll just say
that 64-bit programs require certain bits and pieces to be there that just
aren't present in 32-bit CPUs.

--c_smith

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:30 PM Klaipedaville on Google <
klaipedavi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello List,
>
> Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that has
> always been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
>
> I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use
> different versions of Wine (www.winehq.org) in order to install Viber but
> this Wine just spits out about 10 errors and dies. Therefore I was
> wondering is Viber actually installable on 32-bit architectures at all?
>
> Many thanks for any pointers in advance!
>
> Regards,
> Dennis
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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Klaipedaville on Google]

Right. Thank you. However, that’s exactly what this wine (www.winehq.org) is 
for as far as I understand. Their software is supposed to run any windows’ 
program / application within Linux environment no matter whether it is 32 or 64 
bit. There are a lot of tutorials and instructions online showing how to run 
any windows.exe on Linux "in wine". It's pretty much like running Windows in a 
VM or something. The idea of this wine is excellent but I am not sure about its 
implementation and application in practice. According to these numerous "how 
to"s and all the other tutorials it's working but I cannot seem to get it 
working on mine.

Regards,
Dennis


From: Cody Smith 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 02:38
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

I don't think it's even possible. 32-bit CPUs aren't forwards compatible like 
that. I won't get into the technical details why, but I'll just say that 64-bit 
programs require certain bits and pieces to be there that just aren't present 
in 32-bit CPUs.

--c_smith


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:30 PM Klaipedaville on Google 
 wrote:

  Hello List,
  Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that has always 
been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
  I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use different 
versions of Wine (www.winehq.org) in order to install Viber but this Wine just 
spits out about 10 errors and dies. Therefore I was wondering is Viber actually 
installable on 32-bit architectures at all?
  Many thanks for any pointers in advance!
  Regards,
  Dennis
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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Jeffrey Needle]

Wine never promises to run anything Windows.  There are programs that 
won't run with Wine.  Check the link below -- there's an app database 
where you can research whether your app will run.


On 09/12/2018 10:09 PM, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
Right. Thank you. However, that’s exactly what this wine 
(www.winehq.org <http://www.winehq.org>) is for as far as I 
understand. Their software is supposed to run any windows’ program / 
application within Linux environment no matter whether it is 32 or 64 
bit. There are a lot of tutorials and instructions online showing how 
to run any windows.exe on Linux "in wine". It's pretty much like 
running Windows in a VM or something. The idea of this wine is 
excellent but I am not sure about its implementation and application 
in practice. According to these numerous "how to"s and all the other 
tutorials it's working but I cannot seem to get it working on mine.

Regards,
Dennis
*From:* Cody Smith <mailto:cody.sm...@ubuntu.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2018 02:38
*To:* Xubuntu Support and User Discussions 
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*Subject:* Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture
I don't think it's even possible. 32-bit CPUs aren't forwards 
compatible like that. I won't get into the technical details why, but 
I'll just say that 64-bit programs require certain bits and pieces to 
be there that just aren't present in 32-bit CPUs.

--c_smith
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:30 PM Klaipedaville on Google 
mailto:klaipedavi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello List,
Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that
has always been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use
different versions of Wine (www.winehq.org
<http://www.winehq.org>) in order to install Viber but this Wine
just spits out about 10 errors and dies. Therefore I was wondering
is Viber actually installable on 32-bit architectures at all?
Many thanks for any pointers in advance!
Regards,
Dennis
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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Peter Flynn]

On 12/09/18 23:30, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> Hello List,
>  
> Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that has
> always been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
>  
> I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use
> different versions of Wine (www.winehq.org ) in
> order to install Viber but this Wine just spits out about 10 errors and
> dies. Therefore I was wondering is Viber actually installable on 32-bit
> architectures at all?

It certainly *was* because I had it running on my old 32-bit Inspiron
laptop. But I don't know if they still supply that version.

But I suspect I was using the commercial Codeweavers' Crossover WINE,
which supports *lots* more than the standard version. Either way, wine
is NOT a Windows emulator — it's an installer, so giving it a Windows
executable probably won't work unless it's an installer executable.


///Peter

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[lefty]

On 09/13/2018 01:09 AM, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
Right. Thank you. However, that’s exactly what this wine (www.winehq.org 
) is for as far as I understand. Their software 
is supposed to run any windows’ program


not 'any', though.  Many.
They have data on compatibility.



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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Cody Smith]

Also, Wine is also limited to the instruction sets you CPU supports. It
can't magically make your CPU support 64 bit instructions if it's a 32 bit
CPU. No software can overcome that hardware limitation.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 7:11 AM lefty  wrote:

> On 09/13/2018 01:09 AM, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> > Right. Thank you. However, that’s exactly what this wine (www.winehq.org
> > ) is for as far as I understand. Their software
> > is supposed to run any windows’ program
>
> not 'any', though.  Many.
> They have data on compatibility.
>
>
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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Klaipedaville on Google]

Thank you for replying, Peter! Do you remember what version of Viber did you 
have running?

I found quite a few tutorials online, including video ones, where they show 
successful installation on Viber on 32-bit architectures. I do not seem to find 
that Viber version that would install.

Regards,
Dennis


From: Peter Flynn 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:20
To: xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

On 12/09/18 23:30, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> Hello List,
>  
> Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that has
> always been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
>  
> I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use
> different versions of Wine (www.winehq.org <http://www.winehq.org>) in
> order to install Viber but this Wine just spits out about 10 errors and
> dies. Therefore I was wondering is Viber actually installable on 32-bit
> architectures at all?

It certainly *was* because I had it running on my old 32-bit Inspiron
laptop. But I don't know if they still supply that version.

But I suspect I was using the commercial Codeweavers' Crossover WINE,
which supports *lots* more than the standard version. Either way, wine
is NOT a Windows emulator — it's an installer, so giving it a Windows
executable probably won't work unless it's an installer executable.


///Peter

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Klaipedaville on Google]

Thank you. So my only option is to find an old "download" of Viber that used to 
run on 32 bits / was compatible with 32 bits?


From: Cody Smith 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 22:24
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

Also, Wine is also limited to the instruction sets you CPU supports. It can't 
magically make your CPU support 64 bit instructions if it's a 32 bit CPU. No 
software can overcome that hardware limitation.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 7:11 AM lefty  wrote:

  On 09/13/2018 01:09 AM, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
  > Right. Thank you. However, that’s exactly what this wine (www.winehq.org 
  > <http://www.winehq.org>) is for as far as I understand. Their software 
  > is supposed to run any windows’ program

  not 'any', though.  Many.
  They have data on compatibility.



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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Klaipedaville on Google]

P.S. I found one Viber's version that is 32 bit. It’s for win xp. The Viber's 
version number is 9.5.0.8. I hope Wine will be able to process this installer 
now! 

From: Klaipedaville on Google 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 06:17
To: Xubuntu Support and User Discussions 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

Thank you for replying, Peter! Do you remember what version of Viber did you 
have running?

I found quite a few tutorials online, including video ones, where they show 
successful installation on Viber on 32-bit architectures. I do not seem to find 
that Viber version that would install.

Regards,
Dennis


From: Peter Flynn 
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:20
To: xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

On 12/09/18 23:30, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> Hello List,
>  
> Does anyone know if there are any work arounds to run Viber that has
> always been 64 bits on 32 bits machines?
>  
> I have Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32 bit machine. I tried to use
> different versions of Wine (www.winehq.org <http://www.winehq.org>) in
> order to install Viber but this Wine just spits out about 10 errors and
> dies. Therefore I was wondering is Viber actually installable on 32-bit
> architectures at all?

It certainly *was* because I had it running on my old 32-bit Inspiron
laptop. But I don't know if they still supply that version.

But I suspect I was using the commercial Codeweavers' Crossover WINE,
which supports *lots* more than the standard version. Either way, wine
is NOT a Windows emulator — it's an installer, so giving it a Windows
executable probably won't work unless it's an installer executable.


///Peter

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Peter Flynn]

On 14/09/18 04:17, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> Thank you for replying, Peter! Do you remember what version of Viber did
> you have running?

No, I'm sorry. It was a long time ago, before WhatsApp was invented.

> I found one Viber's version that is 32 bit. It’s for win xp. The 
> Viber's version number is 9.5.0.8. I hope Wine will be able to
> process this installer now!

If not, you can always buy Codeweavers Crossover WINE which should work.

///Peter

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Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

[Klaipedaville on Google]

Thank you, Peter! Appreciate you follow up on this. Well, I have now tried 
almost all the 32-bit old versions of Viber and guess what... they do not work 
on Xubuntu 18.04 running on my 32-bit system. Plus, this Codeweavers Crossover 
Wine has a trial version that I have just installed and... it's unable to run 
any versions of Viber either so I am not sure what is wrong but it  looks 
like Viber (either 32 or 64) will never run on any Linux 32-bit machines. I am 
clueless again. They could have made it like Skype for web for example where 
there are no downloads, no installations, or anything else required at all, 
simply type in web.skype.com in any browser on any OS, log in and you are good 
to go. Do you think Viber portable may work? It is supposed to be 
self-sufficient if this version exists at all but... then again... if it's a 
hardware problem... I think it's going to be my last try before I give up on 
this Viber for good.

Regards,
Dennis

From: Peter Flynn 
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 10:52
To: xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Viber on 32 bit Architecture

On 14/09/18 04:17, Klaipedaville on Google wrote:
> Thank you for replying, Peter! Do you remember what version of Viber did
> you have running?

No, I'm sorry. It was a long time ago, before WhatsApp was invented.

> I found one Viber's version that is 32 bit. It’s for win xp. The 
> Viber's version number is 9.5.0.8. I hope Wine will be able to
> process this installer now!

If not, you can always buy Codeweavers Crossover WINE which should work.

///Peter

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